On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 08:05:23PM -0700, Mikel Maron wrote:
> If this were about code, the belief would be that every time someone compiled
> that code into running software, that binary would need to be freely
> available. Clearly not the reasonable thing for software. But you would have
> thi
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Simon Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
Merely processing into a different format needs to be clarified. If
someone takes OSM ways + nodes + relations and imports it into PostGIS
without changing any of it, I see that as processing into a different
format. I believe that PostG
Hi,
let's try to sort this out, I think I still not get your point fully.
Simon Ward wrote:
> I’m about creating a world map that’s free for the world and remains
> free for the world.
I'll recap the typical concept behind that: If our database were PD then
it would be free but it would not
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:49:32AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 06:20:32PM +0200, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
> >> I cannot speak for everyone, but I do think that the general idea is to
> >> make
> >> the ODbL work like a copyleft license (i.e. you're required to distri
Hi,
Simon Ward wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 06:20:32PM +0200, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
>> I cannot speak for everyone, but I do think that the general idea is to make
>> the ODbL work like a copyleft license (i.e. you're required to distribute
>> the "source" data only to the people you di
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:09:09AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Simon Ward wrote:
> > Merely processing into a different format needs to be clarified. If
> > someone takes OSM ways + nodes + relations and imports it into PostGIS
> > without changing any of it, I see that as processing into a diff
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 06:20:32PM +0200, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
> I cannot speak for everyone, but I do think that the general idea is to make
> the ODbL work like a copyleft license (i.e. you're required to distribute
> the "source" data only to the people you distribute the maps to). You'l
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 04:54:54PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Simon Ward wrote:
> > Your argument would also suggest that there is no need for the factual
> > licence.
>
> Yes there is; it would protect users who extract a non-substantial
> amount of data against any claims from anybody.
As
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:26:05AM -0700, Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> I can think of three types of material changes that we would want
> contributed back to OSM:
>
> [1] Modifications that improve (not degrade) the accuracy of a Feature
> geometry.
> [2] Modifications that improve (not degrade)
Hi,
Simon Ward wrote:
> Merely processing into a different format needs to be clarified. If
> someone takes OSM ways + nodes + relations and imports it into PostGIS
> without changing any of it, I see that as processing into a different
> format. I believe that PostGIS DB should be freely availa
Ivan,
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
> Right now, the wording of the ODbL includes the word "public" a few more
> times
> than I think it's neccesary, so it works differently (i.e. I think it doesn't
> pass the DFSG "dissident test").
I agree - could you add something about that "dissident test" o
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 08:48:07AM +0100, Peter Miller wrote:
> 1) We clarify that a Derived Database is only deems to exist when the
> martial changes have occurred to the content of the DB, but not if the
> dataset has merely been processed into a different format.
Merely processing into a diffe
Hi,
Nick Black wrote:
> I saw this. It doesn't seem to square with things that Ed has
> suggested before. At SOTM08 he said that placing a pin on the map
> made it a derived work and was very unclear about the ownership.
I guess the same soft rule applies as it does to mapping from aerial
imag
I notice that the conversation has moved on from issues around Derivative
Databases to factual/copyright data. Can I confirm that we have agreement on
the previous point re Derivative DBs?
Can I suggest:
1) We clarify that a Derived Database is only deems to exist when the
martial changes have
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