Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-18 Thread davespod
JohnSmitty wrote: As I said before, you can easily do this with copyright, use CC-by-ND instead of CC-by-SA, but if something is licensed as CC-by-SA it can legally be derived from as long as the resulting work is also CC-by-SA. What I am saying is that Creative Commons guidance appears to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-18 Thread John Smith
On 18 June 2011 19:22, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote: Tiles are clearly *maps* and so protected as artistic works under article 2(1) of the Berne Convention and therefore (one hopes) in every country which is a signatory to Berne which includes the US and the EU. What you can do with

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-18 Thread Francis Davey
2011/6/18 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Well one assumption I'm making is that everyone is adhering to the license restrictions placed on them, perhaps this would be easiler with a solid example. OSM-F continues to distribute map tiles under a CC-by-SA license and for the purpose of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-18 Thread John Smith
On 18 June 2011 19:48, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/6/18 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Well one assumption I'm making is that everyone is adhering to the license restrictions placed on them, perhaps this would be easiler with a solid example. OSM-F continues to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-18 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:39 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 June 2011 19:22, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote: Tiles are clearly *maps* and so protected as artistic works under article 2(1) of the Berne Convention and therefore (one hopes) in every country which is a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Weait wrote: Andy, in Australia, contributes CC-By or CC-By-SA data to CC-By-SA OpenStreetMap. Perhaps the data is Australian boundaries or something. Betty, in UK, creates CC-By-SA tiles that include that boundary data. Chuck, in USA, creates vectors from those tiles and later

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-18 Thread John Smith
On 18 June 2011 20:26, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Is this similar?: Andy, in Australia, contributes CC-By or CC-By-SA data to CC-By-SA OpenStreetMap. Perhaps the data is Australian boundaries or something. Betty, in UK, creates CC-By-SA tiles that include that boundary data.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-18 Thread John Smith
On 18 June 2011 20:35, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 June 2011 20:26, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Is this similar?: Andy, in Australia, contributes CC-By or CC-By-SA data to CC-By-SA OpenStreetMap. Perhaps the data is Australian boundaries or something.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-18 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Not sure of you point, since cc-by-sa can't be magically turned into ODBL data, it can only stay cc-by-sa. If you are legally sure and prove that they were cc-by-sa in the first place. ;)) This copyright stuff for soft - ware (not software) is a can of worms that will kill the project in the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-18 Thread John Smith
On 19 June 2011 03:40, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: What if Betty changes country and decides to reside in France -before- publicating her tiles on a server located in the Bahama's and claiming CC0 ;) It's silly because some people injected a