[OSM-legal-talk] contributor terms

2016-09-03 Thread Mike Dupont
Sorry to bring this up again, but I accidentally accepted the contributor terms on my h4ck3rm1k3 account and I cannot do that because not all the data that I had there is cleared for the new license. I stopped using that account a while back. I would like to have the settings turned back. I tried t

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] question regarding produced work

2015-11-18 Thread Mike Dupont
Reading http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96pnvkarte and the talk page, I would assume that what you are interested in is the rendering styles. The data seems to be from OSM. I am not sure that you would have a legal standing to request them. Only if he used AGPL licensed styles would you be a

[OSM-legal-talk] giving credit

2015-11-07 Thread Mike Dupont
On the copyright page I see credit for various places who donate data. Would it be possible to give credit to the state of nj if they donate data to satisfy them? mike -- James Michael DuPont Kansas Linux Fest http://kansaslinuxfest.us Free/Libre Open Source and Open Knowledge Association of Kans

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Review of IndianaMap as potential datasource

2014-04-19 Thread Mike Dupont
the data is creative commons we can't use it. We can't neither fulfill > the attribution nor is it compatible with the contributor terms which > allows changing the license. > > Stephan > > On April 19, 2014 5:19:54 PM CEST, Mike Dupont < > jamesmikedup...@googlemai

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Review of IndianaMap as potential datasource

2014-04-19 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > Well no, Mike, I don't think so. What rights a publisher grants to > Wikipedia has nothing to do with what rights a publisher grants to > OpenStreetMap. Wikipedia has no ownership interest in OpenStreetMap, > nor vice-versa. > If wikipedi

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Review of IndianaMap as potential datasource

2014-04-18 Thread Mike Dupont
the wikipedia has a nice otrs system, I supposed you could use it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OTRS so let them sign something that allows the data to be used by wikipedia and that should cover osm as well. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Eric Jiang wrote: > Greetings, > I am inter

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [GIS-Kosova] OSM road network for Kosova

2013-03-04 Thread Mike Dupont
>> Hi Bekim, >> >> If nobody else gives you feedback I will do so next week. I am away at the >> moment. >> >> Regards, >> Michael Collinson >> >> >> >> On 20 Sep 2012, at 19:11, Bekim Kajtazi wrote: >> >> Thanks Mike, &

[OSM-legal-talk] osm and K.S.A. 45-220(c)(2)

2012-12-15 Thread Mike Dupont
Hello, Would putting the data in osm be in violation of the kansas law K.S.A. 45-220(c)(2)? http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_45/Article_2/45-230.html K.S.A. 45-220(c)(2): "the requester does not intend to, and will not: (A) Use any list of names or addresses contained in or derived f

[OSM-legal-talk] apple petition

2012-10-21 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi all, We need only 6 more signatures for the apple petition : http://www.change.org/petitions/apple-inc-uphold-the-terms-of-cc-by-sa-2-0-license please sign and share! If you ask yourself what use it is, the point is that we can try and put public pressure onto apple. mike -- James Michael DuP

[OSM-legal-talk] Please sign my petition to ask apple for disclosure

2012-10-06 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi there, I would like to ask you all to consider to sign my petition for apple to disclose their usage of OSM : http://www.change.org/petitions/apple-inc-uphold-the-terms-of-cc-by-sa-2-0-license thanks, mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data

2012-09-20 Thread Mike Dupont
tible as it does not distinguish between derived > and produced works. > > On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Michael Collinson wrote: > >> On 20/09/2012 07:32, Mike Dupont wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I have a question about imports and the ODBl, &g

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [GIS-Kosova] OSM road network for Kosova

2012-09-20 Thread Mike Dupont
is the starting point? > > I am ready to approve, sign, confirm anything required! > > Best, > Bekim > > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Mike Dupont > wrote: >> >> Bekim, >> I have been working on understanding the new license even today. >>

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [GIS-Kosova] OSM road network for Kosova

2012-09-20 Thread Mike Dupont
Bekim, I have been working on understanding the new license even today. it is cc-by-sa + database rights (odbl) + the right for osm to change the licence at will in the future. basically you need to grant the osm the rights to use the data, Michael can give you more info about this, thanks, mike

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data

2012-09-20 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Michael Collinson wrote: > If you have any particular case, the LWG will be happy to work with you on > it. well my case is to translate the terms into Albanian and go back to people who donated data and try and ask them to sign off on it, there are different case

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data

2012-09-20 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Michael Collinson wrote: > () The CTs where written carefully to say, "If you contribute Contents, You > are indicating that, as far as You know, You have the right to authorize > OSMF to use and distribute those Contents under our current licence terms." > "curren

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data

2012-09-20 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: > This is a good reason to have contributor terms. the contributor terms introduce more problems, like the fact that it prevents anyone from importing any derived works. lets say i download the new cc-by-sa+odbl database make changes and publ

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data

2012-09-20 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: > that is different than to ask for the CT which is my eyes basically a > copyright assignment to the osmf, I cannot understand that or explain And to add in one more point, I dont want to have to go back again and again to donors aski

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data

2012-09-20 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:06 PM, David Groom wrote: > I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "convince people to add the odbl > clause to people providing data". I mean I asked people to give us the data under cc-by-sa, and now i would have to go back and ask for the odbl database rights, tha

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data

2012-09-20 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Stephan Knauss wrote: > Could we create a special version of the Contributor Terms for data > donations? So they could sign it. We could mail it to the OSMF to keep the > records. This was my idea from today, make a clause like the GPL has, v2 or any future versio

[OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data

2012-09-19 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi there, I have a question about imports and the ODBl, I see that some sources have decided to dual license the data http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue But how can some third parties data be compatible when the CT says it can change any time, surly they might be compatible with

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Legal Wording again..

2012-09-13 Thread Mike Dupont
this is a topic for legal. the content is no longer cc-by-sa, it is OdBL On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Frans Thamura wrote: > i want the Osmosa also in that text > > content CCA from OSM > server hosted in osmosa.net > > any idea? > > F > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Alex Rollin wrot

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Interpretation of a Mexian license

2012-08-11 Thread Mike Dupont
I second that translation and give you an example here that has a similar anti commercial clause in spanish and english : Original : prohibida toda comercialización, even I can translate that : prohibition of commercialization. here is the page i found : http://www.visitacostadelsol.com/living/a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-08-10 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Apollinaris Schöll wrote: > They can claim what they want. Even if you sign such a contract it is not > valid. It's called employer and not slave driver. No court will enforce such > a contract. Mr Schöll, I have hear otherwise, first of all if you sign a contact

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-08-10 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Paul Norman wrote: > If someone is unable to sign the CTs because they don't hold copyright over > their contributions then they'd be unable to legally contribute to OSM or > any open mapping project regardless of the CTs. > > If someone is not working in a GIS fie

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-08-10 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Pavel Pisa wrote: > even recent discussions about ODBl compatibility with Wikipedia > problems shows that there can be problems or complications > with ODBL only licensed data. +1 This is what has been concerning me for a while. -- James Michael DuPont Member

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-08-09 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 6:20 AM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: > For me the CT has been a problem. > I principally refuse to sign a contract where I can be held legally > responsible > for data I contribute for free; where the other party engages itself to > nothing at all, >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] OSMF Board & auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Phil! Gold wrote: > CC-BY-SA is similar > in broad terms (you must license the mixed database to the user under > CC-BY-SA), but lacks the details more specific to datasets, like the > reasonable-format requirement. Can you provide more information on this? mike

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-07-28 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > all > the problems we had with the license change > Lets be clear here, I think the problems is not because of the license change, but the contributor terms , ( the click through license and the mass collection of all IP rights by the OSF)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-07-27 Thread Mike Dupont
is this possible? that would be great for continuing with cc-by-sa. mike On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:47 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > I was personally thinking of just publishing the full planet the same > way it is published today > -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-07-26 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi there, I also have these concerns, and am really interested in the resolution. mike On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Pavel Pisa wrote: > Dear OSMF responsible, > > even recent discussions about ODBl compatibility with Wikipedia > problems shows that there can be problems or complications >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL "Produced Work" maps in Wikipedia

2012-07-21 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > (If anyone wants to pursue this discussion I would very much ask them to > peruse the mailing list archives with the search term "reverse engineering" > and read up on past discussions so that we don't have to repeat ourselves.) Ok, thanks

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL "Produced Work" maps in Wikipedia

2012-07-21 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > No. The Produced Work you create is uploaded to Wikipedia under CC-BY-SA > and that's all that counts. CC-BY-SA would not allow additional conditions > (e.g. the making available of a source database) anyway. The "Created from > OdBL-license

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-28 Thread Mike Dupont
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:22 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > On 28 May 2012 23:03, Mike  Dupont wrote: >> moving the discussion to legal >> >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:02 PM, andrzej zaborowski >> wrote: >>> Copying and pasting is not a copyright infringeme

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-28 Thread Mike Dupont
moving the discussion to legal On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:02 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > Copying and pasting is not a copyright infringement.  The Contributor > Terms don't require that the data inserted into the database be > compatible with ODbL -- only the current licensing terms, which sti

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] WAS Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-11 Thread Mike Dupont
the stylesheets to map elements. mke On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Am 11. April 2012 00:06 schrieb Mike Dupont < > jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com>: > > and this on the copyright of css : > > http://b0x0rz

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Critical Mass for license change-over

2012-01-29 Thread Mike Dupont
I am going to explain my viewpoint on this. My understanding of copyleft is the idea that people who own the rights to their own work license it freely. Other people who license that work via copyleft are then allowed to create derived works, and adding in value create new works that are again red

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Critical Mass for license change-over

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 1/27/2012 6:48 PM, Nick Whitelegg wrote: >> >> >> Hi Mike and Graham, >> >>  >We should not assume that contributors' acceptance of the new licence >> means that they are particularly in favour of it - they may have just >> accepted bec

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Critical Mass for license change-over

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Dupont
That is an excellent question Stefan d. k., very good. Also considering that the previous stance was that wikipedia should not be imported at all because it is mostly derived from non free sources. Also I wonder why this mail is being sent to talk, about licensing, should be on legal anyway? mike

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Mixing OSM and FOSM data

2012-01-19 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Rob Myers wrote: > On 19/01/12 09:51, Mike Dupont wrote: >> Same here, the OSM is pressuring me to accept the CT which would >> amount to prejury > > If you cannot accept the CTs please don't. Nobody wants you to make a > false

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Mixing OSM and FOSM data

2012-01-19 Thread Mike Dupont
Same here, the OSM is pressuring me to accept the CT which would amount to prejury for imported CC-BY-SA data again here is my statement, I am still getting spam mails from bots on accepting the license. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/James%20Michael%20DuPont/diary/15777 mike On Wed, Jan 18, 2

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Trace from Landsat.com?

2012-01-08 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi, landsat is already available in a josm plugin http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landsat i dont know if what you are planning to buy is better than that, thanks, mike On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Mike N wrote: > > I'm wondering if it would be legal to trace from LandSat.com aerials. Of >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Transition to CC-4 instead of destroying data

2011-12-19 Thread Mike Dupont
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Ed Avis wrote: > Simon Poole poole.ch> writes: > >>The "upgrade clause" in 4.b of CC-by-SA 2.0 >> >>a) only applies to a Derivative Work. While this is only a small hurdle >>to surmount, it does mean that it doesn't apply to a one-to-one copy of >>the work >> >>b)

[OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Creative Commons wants your input on the 4.0 license process

2011-12-11 Thread Mike Dupont
FYI, cc 4 is open for discussion. mike -- Forwarded message -- From: Kat Walsh Date: Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:37 PM Subject: [Foundation-l] Creative Commons wants your input on the 4.0 license process To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List , Wikimedia Commons Discussion List , Engli

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Mike Dupont
It looks like we are going to need tools to look for checking "relicensed" nodes here. Do we have have CPU for that? I need hosting. thanks, mike On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Gert Gremmen wrote: >> Using this O-trick violates the copyright of the previous >> owner,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Mike Dupont
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Simon Poole wrote: >> That said, I believe P2 now has a tool that will completly replace >> a node with a new one at the same coordinates which is a bit of >> a fix for your specific issue. > > Just for clarification - what it actually do

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] V1 Object Statistics

2011-08-20 Thread Mike Dupont
Well, I see my name on that list, as to my contributions to germany I really dont care if you re license them, there is no issue with them like the kosovo data. thanks, mike On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > As was to be expected, there was at least one bug in the script :-/

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] I want my access back

2011-08-09 Thread Mike Dupont
Me too, I would like to fix some bugs, why am I locked out? mike On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 08:03:16PM +0200, Nic Roets wrote: > > Gert, if you are so sure of that, open a new account and use that > instead. > > At the very least you will stil

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A case for CT + CC-BY-SA

2011-07-23 Thread Mike Dupont
Tobias, thank you for writing this. It seems you are speaking from the hearts of many people. thanks, mike On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > I apologize in advance for distracting everyone's attention from mapping > and other pleasures with a long mail about licenses. Howeve

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-21 Thread Mike Dupont
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:57 AM, John Smith wrote: > > Person A also should do as much as they can to make sure any potential > > Person C is aware of the intention. In the case of OSM, it helps that > it's > > the largest open map data project - it's likely anyone thinking of > creating > > a ma

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Phase 4 and what it means

2011-06-06 Thread Mike Dupont
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Kai Krueger wrote: > It is kind of ironic that people who use the "accept the CT question" to > "vote on the transition to ODBL" get told that this is not a vote if they > think ODBL is the correct licence for OSM but that they should only indicate > if they will ac

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment (was: Re: Phase 4 and what it means)

2011-06-06 Thread Mike Dupont
getting into a debate about whether ODBL is the > best licence for OSM data here. However, I do feel the need to correct > one very important factual point regarding the Contributor Terms. > > On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 06:20 +0200, "Mike Dupont" > wrote: > >> This proc

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Phase 4 and what it means

2011-06-05 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: > On 05.06.2011 02:09, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> >> means for them. I know for a fact that among the current disagreeing >> mappers there are some who intend to stay with OSM and who are just >> holding out until the last minute; and I know there

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for "Wiki Loves Monuments"

2011-05-15 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> Funny, based on my last question, the OSM will not be able to use >> cc-by-sa data in the future. > > Some say that we aren't able to use CC-BY-SA data now because we cannot > provide proper attribution. I would be willing to looking into

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for "Wiki Loves Monuments"

2011-05-14 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Rob Myers wrote: > On 05/14/2011 06:01 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: >> >> Funny, based on my last question, the OSM will not be able to use >> cc-by-sa data in the future. > > Hence the question, I imagine. :-) > > PDDL/CC0 for the d

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for "Wiki Loves Monuments"

2011-05-14 Thread Mike Dupont
Funny, based on my last question, the OSM will not be able to use cc-by-sa data in the future. mike On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Kolossos wrote: > This september will be a relative large event from Wikimedia-side across > europe: "Wiki Loves Monuments". It is a public photo contest around > m

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CT clarification: third-party sources

2010-12-09 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:01 AM, pec...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi everyone! > > To clarify my criticism/confusion with CT: > > 1) I'm not against ODbL. It is nice idea and I wholeheartedly support it; > 2) I'm not against general idea of CT, I understand why it is needed; > > My confusion and problem

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Advice for transiki

2010-12-08 Thread Mike Dupont
ract the attention > of closed up companies, and as such, is a good thing. Thank you! > Andrei > > 2010/12/8 Mike Dupont >> >> I dont think I can asnwer this question, my i suggest to write the >> wikitravel or wikipeida articles and then to send them to the >>

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Advice for transiki

2010-12-08 Thread Mike Dupont
and tons of data about tons and tons of > companies,  while knowing that the data I am importing,  is absolutely > certain to be free of use. Because, as always, transit companies would wake > up only when the amount of overall collected data would make the financial > compensations and pen

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Advice for transiki

2010-12-08 Thread Mike Dupont
y can or not! > Andrei > > 2010/12/8 Mike Dupont >> >> I found a reference to albatrans here, >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stations_of_the_Paris_RER >> >> just add this information to wikipedia. >> >> see also here : >> http://wiki

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Advice for transiki

2010-12-08 Thread Mike Dupont
y on > transiki, according to French law or British law, or any other law, without > having to ask permission to do so? > Thanks > Andrei > PS: was that more specific than my previous message? > 2010/12/8 Mike Dupont >> >> Hi, >> I would suggest that the devil

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Advice for transiki

2010-12-07 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi, I would suggest that the devil is in the details, please be specific. my I suggest that you write a wikipeidia article about the agency or wikitravel page about the timeplan/schedule and I will review it. mike On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Andrei Klochko wrote: > Hello again, > This time,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

2010-12-05 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Renaud MICHEL wrote: > Le dimanche 05 décembre 2010 à 11:49, Mike Dupont a écrit : >> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Renaud MICHEL > wrote: >> > Is it OK to use bing imagery when you have accepted the contributors >> > term, >&g

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

2010-12-05 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Renaud MICHEL wrote: > Is it OK to use bing imagery when you have accepted the contributors term, How are they connected? please explain. thanks, mike ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://list

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-03 Thread Mike Dupont
s which actually say that > derived information can be copyrighted by the tracer and released > under something CC BY-SA 2.0 compatible, or something to the same > effect. > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Mike  Dupont > wrote: >> HI Andrew, >> I am also worried a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-02 Thread Mike Dupont
At the time of my writing Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:59 AM CET is when I was working on that, there was no mention of this other license, at least I did not see it. Sorry for misleading, mike On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Anthony wrote: >> On

[OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-11-30 Thread Mike Dupont
I have highlighted and commented on points from the bing Tou for discussion http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2010/11/interesting-points-from-bing-bind.html thanks, mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org __

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Why is the data protected?

2010-11-28 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Andreas Perstinger wrote: > Hi, > > sorry for my probably stupid question, but I'm rather new to OSM and still > learning :-). > > As I understand it, we build a database which we fill with coordinates and > their tags. Because of the license change some (or most o

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CT, section 3

2010-11-26 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Do you *really* think it is right to say: What's mine is mine, and if those > 100 people in 10 years make any step that I don't like then I will withdraw > my work from under them? please stop at this point. We are not talking about withdr

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CT, section 3

2010-11-26 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer wrote: > I contributed to > OpenStreetMap because it is licensed under the CC-BY-SA. I would never have > contributed under a license that says: "All your work is now ours. You give up > all control. Bugger off if you disagree." AMEN. that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] openstreetmap in some flash advertising

2010-11-21 Thread Mike Dupont
ke-und-Illegalitaet-2_32415779.html http://www.chip.de/ii/180024129_e9575be830.jpg On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Dupont < jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> wrote: > well the flash image moves around and shows more data. but ok. maybe they > are not tiles, but one tile. anyway.. > >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] openstreetmap in some flash advertising

2010-11-21 Thread Mike Dupont
well the flash image moves around and shows more data. but ok. maybe they are not tiles, but one tile. anyway.. On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > > Mike Dupont wrote: > >> I just saw this , very interesting. >> >> http://o

[OSM-legal-talk] openstreetmap in some flash advertising

2010-11-21 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi, I just saw this , very interesting. http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2010/11/httpmobilespyde-is-using-unattributed.html Mobile Spy and Akamai are using unattributed osm tiles in flash ads. -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossa

[OSM-legal-talk] yakaz.com Partial Map data CC-BY-SA OpenStreetMap contributors

2010-11-21 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi, there, the site http://www.yakaz.com has an osm map and displays "Partial Map data CC-BY-SA OpenStreetMap contributors" on the webpage, but not on the map. Luca has posted a comment about this and sent this to my attention : http://blog.yakaz.com/2010/11/welcome-on-the-new-yakaz.html#comments

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-30 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Simon Ward wrote: > In any case, if I host my data elsewhere, and then “import” it into > OpenStreetMap, do I get around this, or am I just being too hopeful? yes, setup a company in the bahamas that holds all intellectual rights of yours, that company would licen

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: > "If you want to import data copyrighted by others or where they are exerting > a copyright over data that you have derived by a method such as tracing, the > copyright should be compatible with ODbL 1.0.  You do not need to guarantee > that the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 7:25 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 30 October 2010 00:07, Mike  Dupont wrote: >> I have written to the people who donated the data to dual license it >> under the oodbl as well as under the creative commons. >> http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/o

[OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi, I have been reading more about how to deal with the licenses of Albania and Kosovo data we have been acquiring. I must admit, I am still skeptical about this new license, but after re-reading it a few times, it might work. The basic idea is that it is codifying what is implicit in copyright l