Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-26 Thread Rob Myers
MJ Ray wrote: > Doesn't being a criminal act mean that the state can investigate (and > prosecute) without waiting for OSMF's lawyers to act? Yes. I apologize for mis-emphasizing this. I'd still say it's a vanishingly small threat, although one that should be made to vanish through a clear statem

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-26 Thread MJ Ray
Rob Myers wrote: > MJ Ray wrote: > > As I understand it, once the trademark registration is confirmed (no > > matter who to), unauthorised commercial use of the mark becomes a > > criminal act punishable by unlimited fines and up to 10 years prison. > > Has a written license been granted, or are y

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Rob Myers wrote: >Sent: 26 January 2009 9:58 PM >To: Licensing and other legal discussions. >Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting > >MJ Ray wrote: > >> As I understand it, once the trademark registration is confirmed (no >> matter who to), unauthori

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-26 Thread Rob Myers
MJ Ray wrote: > As I understand it, once the trademark registration is confirmed (no > matter who to), unauthorised commercial use of the mark becomes a > criminal act punishable by unlimited fines and up to 10 years prison. > Has a written license been granted, or are you expecting people not to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-26 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Peter Miller wrote: > I note that "Steve [is] reluctant to publish publicly as it would invite > another round of changes ... Henk asked about getting support from major > contributors. Nick and Andy felt it was against the spirit of the project to > treat some

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-26 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Peter Miller wrote: > Technical - Tile serving, API restrictions & Servers > I am still not clear that there is a need for API restrictions and what > reduction in bandwidth costs would result. What are the predicted costs of > continuing the current arrangement?

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-25 Thread Peter Miller
On 25 Jan 2009, at 12:12, SteveC wrote: > > On 24 Jan 2009, at 21:09, Peter Miller wrote: >> "Depending upon the precise circumstances this duty not to accept >> benefits could be relevant in the case of the Foundation. Presumably >> Steve Coast Will receive some form of benefit from his other co

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-25 Thread SteveC
On 24 Jan 2009, at 21:09, Peter Miller wrote: > "Depending upon the precise circumstances this duty not to accept > benefits could be relevant in the case of the Foundation. Presumably > Steve Coast Will receive some form of benefit from his other company > which could be argued to arise as

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-24 Thread Peter Miller
On 24 Jan 2009, at 20:26, Grant Slater wrote: Liz wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Dair Grant wrote: You argue that anyone with a commercial interest in OSM (e.g., me) who's listed on the {{PD-user}} page (me again) has a potential conflict of interest. That's the way Australian law works.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-24 Thread Grant Slater
Liz wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Dair Grant wrote: > >> You argue that anyone with a commercial interest in OSM (e.g., me) who's >> listed on the {{PD-user}} page (me again) has a potential conflict of >> interest. >> > > That's the way Australian law works. > If I am on a Board (which I a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-24 Thread Liz
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Dair Grant wrote: > You argue that anyone with a commercial interest in OSM (e.g., me) who's > listed on the {{PD-user}} page (me again) has a potential conflict of > interest. That's the way Australian law works. If I am on a Board (which I am) and some other aspect of my lif

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-24 Thread Peter Miller
On 24 Jan 2009, at 13:11, Dair Grant wrote: > Peter Miller wrote: > >> Is there not a large potential conflict of interest between SteveC >> in relation >> to his driving this change within the Foundation and also being a >> director of >> a company that could well benefit from the OSM projec

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-24 Thread Dair Grant
Peter Miller wrote: > Is there not a large potential conflict of interest between SteveC in relation > to his driving this change within the Foundation and also being a director of > a company that could well benefit from the OSM project not offering a full set > of services? I don't know, but I c

[OSM-legal-talk] 23rd Dec board meeting

2009-01-24 Thread Peter Miller
Comments on the minutes of the 23rd Dec board meeting It is good that the minutes are now posted. I was however disappointed to get them the day of the next meeting and a month after the meeting in question. It is good to see that the November minutes have been approved. Sub-working groups