Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Concerns about ODbL

2009-03-02 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:40 PM, jean-christophe.haes...@dianosis.org wrote: I found out recently about the license change issue, and I discover with fear that everything looks decided. I feel I'm being rushed. The licence discussion has been going on for a couple of *years* now. It needs

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Concerns about ODbL

2009-03-02 Thread OJ W
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: OJ W wrote: the ability to create an uncopiable map image from OSM data does seem to have appeared in the ODbL license? You can create an image and (provided that your image is not a data base, a distinction that has

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Concerns about ODbL

2009-03-02 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:35 PM, OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: OJ W wrote: the ability to create an uncopiable map image from OSM data does seem to have appeared in the ODbL license? You can create an image and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Concerns about ODbL

2009-03-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Jean-Christophe Haessig wrote: I surely understand that contributors’ names won’t disappear from OSM itself, however with that clause, someone might make a copy of the database, remove the names and redistribute it (only attributing to OSM), which will in effect disable the users of this

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Concerns about ODbL

2009-03-02 Thread Jean-Christophe Haessig
Le lundi 02 mars 2009 à 14:14 +0100, Frederik Ramm a écrit : No. If that were the case then OSM would have gone PD long ago and we would all be mapping happily instead of wasting our time trying to create freedom from the barrel of a license (kudos to JohnW for this phrase). Ok, I believe

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Concerns about ODbL

2009-03-02 Thread Simon Ward
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 01:40:47PM +0100, jean-christophe.haes...@dianosis.org wrote: * Waivers : thankfully I cannot legally waive my moral rights in my country, but I think it is unfair to require this form any person in the world. While I agree to collective attribution, I share some of