Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL: Produced Works other than maps

2010-03-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Arne Johannessen wrote: > How many bakeries are there in London? Without bothering to count, I'd > say Greater London surely has a lot more than 100, while The City > probably has less. (A hundred is the limit for 'not Substantial' > according to the community guideline for the meaning o

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL: Produced Works other than maps

2010-03-27 Thread Arne Johannessen
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Arne Johannessen wrote: >> >> Note that just rendering the OSM database in PNG format doesn't >> necessarily create a Produced Work. > > We have to be careful about the definition of "database" here. > According > to the legal definition of "database" which has been quoted

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL: Produced Works other than maps

2010-03-27 Thread Ulf Möller
Frederik Ramm schrieb: > Thus we have agreed that we are willing to consider a PNG file to be a > Produced Work unless - and I don't find the specific wording on the Wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Produced_Work_-_Guideline ___

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL: Produced Works other than maps

2010-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Arne Johannessen wrote: > Note that just rendering the OSM database in PNG format doesn't > necessarily create a Produced Work. We have to be careful about the definition of "database" here. According to the legal definition of "database" which has been quoted here often enough, any PNG f

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL: Produced Works other than maps

2010-03-27 Thread Arne Johannessen
Hi Frederik, Andy, IANAL, but am still in a position to offer an opinion for discussion. Andy Allan wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Frederik Ramm > wrote: >> >>until now, most of us (I believe) have viewed the ODbL's "Produced >> Works" concept as relating to something like a PN

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL: Produced Works other than maps

2010-03-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > >    until now, most of us (I believe) have viewed the ODbL's "Produced > Works" concept as relating to something like a PNG image made from the > OSM database. A map tile, if you will. > > I wonder what other forms of "Produced Works"

[OSM-legal-talk] ODbL: Produced Works other than maps

2010-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, until now, most of us (I believe) have viewed the ODbL's "Produced Works" concept as relating to something like a PNG image made from the OSM database. A map tile, if you will. I wonder what other forms of "Produced Works" there are. What, for example, about lists? If I produce from OS