Nestor Miguel dijo (apropos Wonsi):
> A hug,
A fucking bear hug, I hope.
Mark
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En relación a Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight,
el 24 Aug 00, a las 12:47, A.Holberg dijo:
> Dear Nestor,
> you might not be astonished to hear that I disagree. To me it seems
> that the fault of the LA-'left' in general and of the pro-Moscow PCs
> espe
>I dont want to speculate much about the 'ifs' in history, but I doubt there
>would have been an October uprising without thr previous split of Bolsheviks
>and Mensheviks. By the same token I think its the tragedy of the German
>revolution that the forces around Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg
Louis Proyect:
> What you call consciousness I regard as socialist ideology. In
> point of fact, revolutions generally take place in advance of acceptance
of
> socialist ideology by the great majority.
Louis,
I dont think that fact is contested at all.
> The common misconception of
> Marxists
>Who has ever claimed that ideological exposure from the sidelines of the
class
>struggle is enough? Of course the Bolsheviks did take an active and leading
>part in the day to day class struggle, but they were not economists, and
they
>knew that consciousness was the key to a proletarian revol
uel Gorojovsky schrieb:
> Date sent:Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:10:16 -0400
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight
>
> >Louis,
>
Date sent: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:10:16 -0400
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight
>Louis,
>
>I do not think one-liners
A. Holberg:
>sometimes only enemy. I'm also in favour of limited tactical alliances
with such
>forces, but these have to include a political fight to warn their popular
basis
>against the upcoming betrayals of their misleaders and to organize the
working
>class for the anavoidable final showdow
Dear Nestor,
you might not be astonished to hear that I disagree. To me it seems that the
fault of the LA-'left' in general and of the pro-Moscow PCs especially was not
to have turned against national-bourgeois regimes but to have taken their
'national' character much too seriously and to have
Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote:
What kind of a regime would take power in Yugoslavia if the "Serb
nationalist and bourgeois" Milosevic regime (your definition, I
hardly can imagine the policemen -that is, the concrete face of the
State- of a bourgeois regime cherishing Salvador Allende, as an
Arg
En relación a Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight,
el 21 Aug 00, a las 9:21, A.Wosni dijo:
> Okay, I agree with driving both out. But why not trying to drive out
> the Milosevic- (and any oither Serb nationalist and hence bourgeois)
> regime out at the same time. Obviously y
Okay, I agree with driving both out. But why not trying to drive out the
Milosevic- (and any oither Serb nationalist and hence bourgeois) regime out at
the same time. Obviously yiou agree that a conflict with imperialism is not yet
turning a otherwise reactionary force into a truely antiimperia
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