Re: Bootscripts merge? (Was: Summarize of Plan and changes)

2006-05-27 Thread Jim Gifford
Tushar Teredesai wrote: No there should not be any duplication. LFS would have the base udev rules and bootscripts. CLFS, HLFS and BLFS would add to it with their unique modifications. The approach has worked nicely for the bootscripts, the same would work for udev rules. I totally disagree,

Re: Proposal: new requirements for referenced translations

2006-05-27 Thread M.Canales.es
El Sábado, 27 de Mayo de 2006 06:18, Alexander E. Patrakov escribió: 1) The translation must be done with the same DocBook XML tools as the English book, and a link to the DocBook source must be provided 2) The translation should be compatible with jhalfs, and the non-obvious differences in

Re: Proposal: new requirements for referenced translations

2006-05-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
M.Canales.es wrote these words on 05/27/06 04:01 CST: Actually, running jhalfs on both the original book and the translated book and diffing the output is the best way to be sure that the commands and packages/patches versions in both books are identical. You may want to see if the

Re: Bootscripts merge? (Was: Summarize of Plan and changes)

2006-05-27 Thread Andrew Benton
Tushar Teredesai wrote: IMO, the best solution is the one suggested by Matt. LFS should contain the udev rules and bootscripts for LFS. All dependent projects should work off that base and release their own additions (or deletions in form of patches) - similar to how the bootscripts are

Glibc Localedef (was...Chapter 6 coreutils-5.94)

2006-05-27 Thread Declan Moriarty
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 04:31 +0100, Declan Moriarty wrote: On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 18:40 -0400, Robert Connolly wrote: On May 26, 2006 01:35 pm, George Boudreau wrote: If Robert says he has built a hlfs(svn)- hlfs(svn) then that is the end of the story and I will look at my setup. I

Re: Proposal: new requirements for referenced translations

2006-05-27 Thread M.Canales.es
El Sábado, 27 de Mayo de 2006 13:13, Randy McMurchy escribió: You may want to see if the sgmldiff program from docutils can help. It may work with XML just fine. And if so, it sounds like it may help. That type of tools help comparing XML trees, but not CDATA. CDATA (the actual output text)

Re: Proposal: new requirements for referenced translations

2006-05-27 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 5/26/06, Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to avoid these situations in the future, I propose to change the requirements for translations mentioned on our official site. The proposal is going to be effective since LFS-6.2, and it is NOT a licensing change (i.e., anyone

Re: Mutt dependencies.

2006-05-27 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
On Sat, May 27, at 07:32:49 Dan Nicholson wrote: Should have replied before. I think it's worth it to be consistent. As long as we have the commands (and you just did the work for me), then we might as well put them in the book. Randy puts in long instructions for rebuilding documentation

Re: Bootscripts merge? (Was: Summarize of Plan and changes)

2006-05-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
Andrew Benton wrote these words on 05/27/06 08:39 CST: Tushar Teredesai wrote: [snip plan to keep things as they are, per Matt's suggestion] +1 So this means that 4 editors within the project (and I'd a coke that it would be 5 if Bruce weren't on vacation and offered an opinion) thinking

Re: Bootscripts merge? (Was: Summarize of Plan and changes)

2006-05-27 Thread Jim Gifford
Randy McMurchy wrote: So this means that 4 editors within the project (and I'd a coke that it would be 5 if Bruce weren't on vacation and offered an opinion) thinking keeping things the same (using LFS as the base for all, and other projects fill in holes) is the right thing to do. I'm only

Re: Bootscripts merge? (Was: Summarize of Plan and changes)

2006-05-27 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jim Gifford wrote: I lot of people are afraid to say things because they will be attacked on these lists, so they sit back and go with the flow. That's part of the problem also, when your community is afraid to speak up there is something wrong. So how can we accurately judge the popularity

build-logs

2006-05-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hello Everyone, After reviewing LFS in preparation for the changes that went in with r7632, I saw again the note (previously in gcc-pass2, but now in chapter06/gcc) which suggests comparing your gcc test results to what's here: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/build-logs/development/ I

Re: build-logs

2006-05-27 Thread Archaic
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 12:22:47PM -0600, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: I believe that, previously, Archaic was creating these build logs with his personal scripts, which up to now has been sufficient. Not just previously. Still. Now, however, we have perhaps a opportunity to increase the

Re: build-logs

2006-05-27 Thread M.Canales.es
El Sábado, 27 de Mayo de 2006 21:20, Jeremy Huntwork escribió: I don't really care what scripting method does it, I just liked the idea of archiving the results of several builds. jhalfs might make this very easy and practical. You're right that the test-results only are required. Manuel,

Re: Bootscripts merge? (Was: Summarize of Plan and changes)

2006-05-27 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
On Sat, May 27, at 10:39:19 Jim Gifford wrote: I lot of people are afraid to say things because they will be attacked on these lists, so they sit back and go with the flow. That's part of the problem also, when your community is afraid to speak up there is something wrong. Please let's

Re: Bootscripts merge? (Was: Summarize of Plan and changes)

2006-05-27 Thread Jim Gifford
Matt, They read the list, but they don't trust people on these lists. Everytime someone brings up a proposal, people blow up. You can't make a guarantee that they won't get flamed for making a suggestion. If we move things to neutral parties, this would be a compromise that everyone will

Re: Bootscripts merge? (Was: Summarize of Plan and changes)

2006-05-27 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jim Gifford wrote: Everytime someone brings up a proposal, people blow up. Please stop with this everybody and everytime hyperbole, Jim. You can't make a guarantee that they won't get flamed for making a suggestion. That, of course, depends on how sensible the suggestion is. Actually, no

Re: Bootscripts merge? (Was: Summarize of Plan and changes)

2006-05-27 Thread Jim Gifford
Ok, it's settled then, LFS will have their rules, and CLFS will have their own. So much for unification. I still welcome Dan and Alex to maintain the CLFS udev rules, if they choose. I will also welcome DJ and Conathan to work on the CLFS bootscripts, if they choose. --

Chapter 6's Glibc make check

2006-05-27 Thread Gerard Beekmans
The following command in chapter 6's glibc: make -k check glibc-check-log 21 Could stand with a bit of modification so it outputs to both the screen as well as the log file. As it is, there is no output on the screen at all, which is so unlike any other make and make check run from

Re: Chapter 6's Glibc make check

2006-05-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
Gerard Beekmans wrote these words on 05/27/06 19:48 CST: Could stand with a bit of modification so it outputs to both the screen as well as the log file. As it is, there is no output on the screen at all, which is so unlike any other make and make check run from the book. I'll agree that it

Re: Chapter 6's Glibc make check

2006-05-27 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Randy McMurchy wrote: It can only slow you down (sometimes significantly), and there is I tend to look at things from the other way around: if you are one of few who is slowed down by this (remote builds), then you probably make other changes already since most every single other command in