Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 09:26:42AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: I don't share your optimism that upstream will accept this, although I hope I'm wrong. For the moment, 182 is good enough. However, I will have a go at merging the write_{cd,net} rules stuff from 182 into udev-config so that it's

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 09:26:42AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: I don't share your optimism that upstream will accept this, although I hope I'm wrong. For the moment, 182 is good enough. I've been watching the mailing lists and William Hubbs has been trying to get a set of

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-14 Thread Andrew Benton
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:19:18 +0100 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: I've been watching the mailing lists and William Hubbs has been trying to get a set of patches into systemd for several days. He is being ignored by upstream AFAICT. They have seemed quite arrogant about it in

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:19:13AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 09:26:42AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: I don't share your optimism that upstream will accept this, although I hope I'm wrong. For the moment, 182 is good enough. I've been watching the

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:19:13AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 09:26:42AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: I don't share your optimism that upstream will accept this, although I hope I'm wrong. For the moment, 182 is good enough. I've been

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-08 Thread Matt Burgess
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 20:07 -0700, Bryan Kadzban wrote: We *could* apply the patch, then autoreconf, then regenerate a new patch, for LFS (to avoid pkg-config or other weirdness causing issues in chapter 6's autoreconf run). Or we could give it a while (leaving the book at udev-182) and see

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 08:07:39AM +0100, Matt Burgess wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 20:07 -0700, Bryan Kadzban wrote: We *could* apply the patch, then autoreconf, then regenerate a new patch, for LFS (to avoid pkg-config or other weirdness causing issues in chapter 6's autoreconf run). Or

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 08:07:56PM -0700, Bryan Kadzban wrote: We *could* apply the patch, then autoreconf, then regenerate a new patch, for LFS (to avoid pkg-config or other weirdness causing issues in chapter 6's autoreconf run). Missed this part : Bruce reinstated pkg-config earlier

[lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Ken Moffat
Took me a little longer than I expected to get back to this, and I've no idea if the patch is going anywhere, but it does work. This is, I think, the second version of the patch posted to linux-hotplug. Tested with systemd-185, I've successfully built xorg-7.7-rc using my existing scripts, so

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: # Start the udev daemon to continually watch for, and act on, # uevents /lib/udev/udevd --daemon # crude fix for udev 182 mkdir -p /dev/pts That's not necessary. Create at install time: $ ls -lR /lib/udev/devices/ /lib/udev/devices/:

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: This use of /usr/lib makes sense for me, but I haven't yet attended to moving the libs to /lib, so accelerometer and cdrom_id will not work until /usr has been mounted. I didn't know what accelerometer did. It is for tablets and phones to tell the orientation of the

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 02:11:23PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: # Start the udev daemon to continually watch for, and act on, # uevents /lib/udev/udevd --daemon # crude fix for udev 182 mkdir -p /dev/pts That's not necessary. Create

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 04:21:05PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: This use of /usr/lib makes sense for me, but I haven't yet attended to moving the libs to /lib, so accelerometer and cdrom_id will not work until /usr has been mounted. I didn't know what accelerometer

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: All the udev supporting programs should end up in /lib/udev: $ ls -l /lib/udev total 1528 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 196379 May 21 15:41 accelerometer -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91401 May 21 15:41 ata_id -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138252 May 21 15:41 cdrom_id -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 10:53:55PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: --- Then the script in mountvirtfs already does: # Copy devices that Udev = 155 doesn't handle to /dev cp -a /lib/udev/devices/* /dev -- Bruce I'll need to look at *why* that isn't working for me -

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 10:53:55PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: --- Then the script in mountvirtfs already does: # Copy devices that Udev = 155 doesn't handle to /dev cp -a /lib/udev/devices/* /dev -- Bruce I'll need to look at *why* that isn't working for

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 04:21:05PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: $ ls -l /lib/udev total 1528 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 196379 May 21 15:41 accelerometer -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91401 May 21 15:41 ata_id -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138252 May 21 15:41 cdrom_id -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bryan Kadzban wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 04:21:05PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: $ ls -l /lib/udev total 1528 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 196379 May 21 15:41 accelerometer -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91401 May 21 15:41 ata_id -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138252 May 21 15:41 cdrom_id