[lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Stefan & Rebekka Wetter
Hi, in the lfs-book you need some patches. I wonder, why these patches are needed? Are the upstream-sources not able to be compiled without? Thanks! Best Regards Stefan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: Se

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Simon Geard
On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 09:03 +0200, Stefan & Rebekka Wetter wrote: > Hi, > > in the lfs-book you need some patches. I wonder, why these patches are > needed? Are the upstream-sources not able to be compiled without? Depends on the patch. Some are upstream fixes not yet in an upstream release. Oth

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Alice Wonder
On 5/16/2013 12:03 AM, Stefan & Rebekka Wetter wrote: > Hi, > > in the lfs-book you need some patches. I wonder, why these patches are > needed? Are the upstream-sources not able to be compiled without? > > Thanks! > > Best Regards > Stefan > The number of patches in LFS is very small compared to

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Fernando
Em 16-05-2013 06:30, Alice Wonder escreveu: > On 5/16/2013 12:03 AM, Stefan & Rebekka Wetter wrote: ... >> in the lfs-book you need some patches. I wonder, why ... > The number of patches in LFS is very small compared to the number of > patches in any Linux distribution I have ever used. > >

[lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread alex lupu
Am 16.5.2013 03:03, schrieb Stefan & Rebekka Wetter: > I wonder, why these patches are needed? > Are the upstream-sources not able to be compiled without? Good questions (as they say). While trying to stay on topic, I'll take the liberty and rephrase them to Why are patches needed at all? for my

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:37:21PM -0400, alex lupu wrote: > > So on this particular example (but much more widespread, as I said) > my obsessive question was (and still is): > > How do some other people compile their package, and in what > configurations so that they are obviously NOT in need of

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Fernando
I have sent this in the morning, about 7 hours ago, it never appeared. Now, I have edited some words to see if the anti-spam was blocking them. Mensagem original Assunto: Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches Data: Thu, 16 May 2013 07:38:49 -0300 De: Fernan

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
>On Thu, 16 May 2013 15:22:19 -0300 >Fernando wrote: > > I have sent this in the morning, about 7 hours ago, it never appeared. > > Now, I have edited some words to see if the anti-spam was blocking > them. It arrived for me, as well as the follow-up email. Perhaps Yahoo is also using the echo-

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
>On Thu, 16 May 2013 12:37:21 -0400 >alex lupu wrote: > > Am 16.5.2013 03:03, schrieb Stefan & Rebekka Wetter: > > I wonder, why these patches are needed? > > Are the upstream-sources not able to be compiled without? > > Good questions (as they say). While trying to stay on topic, > I'll take th

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 16/05/2013 20:22, Fernando a écrit : > I have sent this in the morning, about 7 hours ago, it never appeared. Actually, I got it at 12:38 (western European time), while the one where you added the above sentence arrived at 20:22. Both are on gmane too... Regards Pierre -- http://linuxfromscra

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > I don't think that worrying over the need for patches is a good > use of time I agree with this, but remember the slogan of LFS. 'Your distro, your rules'. Users are free to use patches or not. The thing to remember is that the LFS editors don't like patches, but only a

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Alice Wonder
On 5/16/2013 1:04 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: *snip* > > Finally, there are philosophically no differences between a sed and a > patch. Both have the same purpose--to enhance the user experience. We > prefer using a sed because the changes made is more visible. > > -- Bruce > I prefer sed for mi

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Fernando
Em 16-05-2013 16:44, Aleksandar Kuktin escreveu: >> On Thu, 16 May 2013 15:22:19 -0300 >> Fernando wrote: >> >> I have sent this in the morning, about 7 hours ago, it never appeared. >> >> Now, I have edited some words to see if the anti-spam was blocking >> them. > > It arrived for me, as well as

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 09:44:50PM +0200, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote: > >On Thu, 16 May 2013 15:22:19 -0300 > >Fernando wrote: > > > > I have sent this in the morning, about 7 hours ago, it never appeared. > > > > Now, I have edited some words to see if the anti-spam was blocking > > them. > > It a

[lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread alex lupu
Hi Aleksandar, You wrote (excerpt): I just went back to analyze the bug report and your fix that you reported in the mail, and the only logical explanation is that your (or any LFS') copy of db2html did something different than the developers copy of db2html. If db2html is generated during the bui

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Alice Wonder
On 5/16/2013 2:08 PM, alex lupu wrote: > > BTW, a "patch" is mostly in the eye of the beholder; some call many of > them, "sed". > > Cute, I like it. Submitting sed scripts upstream though seems to be frowned upon, they like patches. I agree with the concept of minimal patches. I think over-pa

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 09:44:50PM +0200, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote: >>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 15:22:19 -0300 >>> Fernando wrote: >>> >>> I have sent this in the morning, about 7 hours ago, it never appeared. >>> >>> Now, I have edited some words to see if the anti-spam was blockin

Re: [lfs-support] why does LFS need that number of patches

2013-05-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alice Wonder wrote: > On 5/16/2013 2:08 PM, alex lupu wrote: > >> >> BTW, a "patch" is mostly in the eye of the beholder; some call many of >> them, "sed". >> >> > > Cute, I like it. > Submitting sed scripts upstream though seems to be frowned upon, they > like patches. Generally, they want to pa