Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-03-02 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 03:00:11PM +, anonymous2...@nym.hush.com wrote: > In parts of Africa and other places, people are > barely techno-literate to be able to turn on a windows machine - > even after consideriable training. Then why would you even consider trying to get them to use one?

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-03-01 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 08:35:14PM +, anonymous2...@nym.hush.com wrote: > Most of what I have gotten so far are lectures and rhetoric. I'm not sure what else you expected. (Really, I'm not.) You didn't explain what you're trying to do. You showed up with a list of middling-to-hideously-poor

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-03-01 Thread Steve Weis
Hi anon. You've asked a public mailing list of mostly non-security professionals a broad question on how to secure your infrastructure, with only a list of technologies and products to start from. This is not going to yield anything useful. If your organization has a budget for securing its infras

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-03-01 Thread anonymous2013
Thanks, a very productive mail. Please keep this subject on topic. On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:55:53 + "The Doctor" wrote: >On 02/28/2013 03:35 PM, anonymous2...@nym.hush.com wrote: >> Thanks, yes I also have seen young and old people use linux but >> I've also seen hundreds of people trained to

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-03-01 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2013 03:35 PM, anonymous2...@nym.hush.com wrote: > Thanks, yes I also have seen young and old people use linux but > I've also seen hundreds of people trained to use it and as soonas > they have to update a package > in Linux, get confused and

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread Andreas Bader
anonymous2...@nym.hush.com: > Thanks, yes I also have seen young and old people use linux but I've also > seen hundreds of people trained to use it and as soonas they have to update a > package in Linux, get confused and reach for a windows machine. The NGO in a > box stuff is ok but not what I

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread Martin Gemzell
On Feb 28, 2013 7:40 PM, wrote: > Hi, > We are a human rights NGO that is looking to invest in the best > possible level of network security (protection from high-level > cyber-security threats, changing circumvention/proxy to protect IP > address etc, encryption on endpoints and server, IDS/Phys

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread anonymous2013
Thanks, yes I also have seen young and old people use linux but I've also seen hundreds of people trained to use it and as soonas they have to update a package in Linux, get confused and reach for a windows machine. The NGO in a box stuff is ok but not what I am asking about at all, I'm speaking

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread SiNA Rabbani
Speaking of GUNE/Linux operating systems, I am personally a big fan of LiveCDs such as Tails (https://tails.boum.org/), where you don't need to install any software on a computer and loose all data (almost all data) on a reboot. Journalists, activists in high risk countries can have multiple copie

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 03:00:11PM +, anonymous2...@nym.hush.com wrote: > If you think you can get a board member or a finance person in an NGO to use > Linux then you are detached from the reality of how most NGO's work. The use > will simply ignore it. Really? Have you tried a recent deskt

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread David Conrad
Hi, On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > Thanks I appreciate the input but this is where one of the problems > with the LibTech approach lies, having spent years training > hundreds of people all over the world with TrueCrypt, TOR, > PGP/Thunderbird etc I can tell you that the systems are s

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread Andreas Bader
drone_guinness1 borgnet: > ...end users using Linux :-D (good one) so you say that android users aren't end users? -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailm

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread anonymous2013
Thanks I appreciate the input but this is where one of the problems with the LibTech approach lies, having spent years training hundreds of people all over the world with TrueCrypt, TOR, PGP/Thunderbird etc I can tell you that the systems are simply not user friendly enough for the vast majorit

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread Andreas Bader
anonymous2...@nym.hush.com: > Hi, > We are a human rights NGO that is looking to invest in the best > possible level of network security (protection from high-level > cyber-security threats, changing circumvention/proxy to protect IP > address etc, encryption on endpoints and server, IDS/Physic

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread anonymous2013
Agreed, this kind of advice is what I was hoping to get on LibTech! On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:16:56 + canto...@hushmail.com wrote: >Thanks excellent advice - much to think about. > >On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:09:39 + "Tom Ritter" >wrote: >>On 28 February 2013 07:39, wrote: >>> Hi, >>> We are

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread cantona7
Thanks excellent advice - much to think about. On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:09:39 + "Tom Ritter" wrote: >On 28 February 2013 07:39, wrote: >> Hi, >> We are a human rights NGO that is looking to invest in the best >> possible level of network security (protection from high-level >> cyber-security

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread Tom Ritter
On 28 February 2013 07:39, wrote: > Hi, > We are a human rights NGO that is looking to invest in the best > possible level of network security (protection from high-level > cyber-security threats, changing circumvention/proxy to protect IP > address etc, encryption on endpoints and server, IDS/Ph

Re: [liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:39:48PM +, anonymous2...@nym.hush.com wrote: > We are a human rights NGO that is looking to invest in the best > possible level of network security [snip] > -Windows 2012 Server This is an early April Fool's joke, right? ---rsk -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, cha

[liberationtech] Designing the best network infrastructure for a Human Rights NGO

2013-02-28 Thread anonymous2013
Hi, We are a human rights NGO that is looking to invest in the best possible level of network security (protection from high-level cyber-security threats, changing circumvention/proxy to protect IP address etc, encryption on endpoints and server, IDS/Physical and Software Firewall/File Integri