Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-16 Thread Petr Mladek
Robinson Tryon píše v Po 15. 04. 2013 v 11:21 -0400: BTW: ESC has had nothing against the one month after the last planned release. If you update the wiki pages with the dates that would be cool. Great! Pages are now updated. I think we're basically done with our EOL Action Item now.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-15 Thread Petr Mladek
Robinson Tryon píše v Pá 12. 04. 2013 v 13:24 -0400: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Regarding the EOL date, I've mocked-up an example of how we could display it on the wiki page:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-15 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Robinson Tryon píše v Pá 12. 04. 2013 v 13:24 -0400: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Regarding the EOL date, I've mocked-up an example of how we could display it on the wiki page:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-12 Thread Petr Mladek
Robinson Tryon píše v Čt 11. 04. 2013 v 12:26 -0400: On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Robinson Tryon píše v St 10. 04. 2013 v 11:29 -0400: I think that only the single EOL date make sense. We do not provide bugfix releases for bugfix releases. We provide

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-12 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Taking the 3.6 branch as an example, the first release came out by Aug 12th., after which point there were no new major/minor builds until 4.0 was released just after 3.6.5 in February. That means that for 6 months, the 3.6

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-11 Thread Petr Mladek
Robinson Tryon píše v St 10. 04. 2013 v 11:29 -0400: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: I see that you both use a bit different logic, so we need to decide how we count the 6 and 9 months. I understand it the following way: + the release is

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-11 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: Robinson Tryon píše v St 10. 04. 2013 v 11:29 -0400: So would we provide an EOL date for each point release in a series, or just a single EOL date for all of our 3.6.x released builds? I think that only the single EOL date

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Robinson, On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:52 -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote: As Pedro mentioned, and as far as I understand it, our next step is to pick an EOL date for each of our builds and then go update the wiki pages. I'd be happy to help update the ReleaseNotes wiki pages, or to ping pmladek

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-10 Thread Pedro
of this month? Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Lifecycle-of-builds-tp4048583p4048978.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-10 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Pedro wrote: Does this also mean that 3.4 versions can already be removed from the bugzilla Version picker? And 3.5 versions after the 18th of this month? Hi Pedro, no, we can't. Version info in BZ should show where the bug appeared (or at least has been observed the first time), also see

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-10 Thread Pedro
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-10 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Pedro schrieb: The point here is that if a version is past the EOL and nobody will fix bugs in that branch, there is no point in reporting bugs first observed in 3.4 or 3.5 (otherwise you should NOT remove 3.3 from the list either) Hi Pedro, you are completely wrong, I doubt that you read

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-10 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote: Pedro wrote: Does this also mean that 3.4 versions can already be removed from the bugzilla Version picker? And 3.5 versions after the 18th of this month? Hi Pedro, no, we can't. Version info in BZ

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-10 Thread Pedro
it makes more sense to advise the user to update to a live branch and then to report the bug if it still exists... Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Lifecycle-of-builds-tp4048583p4049059.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-10 Thread Petr Mladek
Michael Meeks píše v St 10. 04. 2013 v 10:25 +0100: Hi Robinson, On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:52 -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote: As Pedro mentioned, and as far as I understand it, our next step is to pick an EOL date for each of our builds and then go update the wiki pages. I'd be happy to help

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-10 Thread Pedro
) Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Lifecycle-of-builds-tp4048583p4049069.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-10 Thread Petr Mladek
Robinson Tryon píše v St 10. 04. 2013 v 10:12 -0400: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Rainer Bielefeld Rainer wrote: So I believe we should mark the not-release-3.3 as inactive, what means they will stay for the bugs where they are used, but can not be used for new bug reports (except by the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-10 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz wrote: I see that you both use a bit different logic, so we need to decide how we count the 6 and 9 months. I understand it the following way: + the release is defined by the minor version release, e.g. 3.6 or 4.0

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-09 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 09:05 -0700, Pedro wrote: I think End of Life in that image doesn't mean the same as it does for Microsoft software (or any other software I know)... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-of-life_%28product%29 :-) and of course these versions can be supported, and

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-09 Thread Pedro
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-09 Thread Jochen
Hi *, Am 09.04.2013 15:53, schrieb Pedro: The image just needs to be corrected by user uroveits. I´m uroveits. I've been watching this thread and I will change the graphic when EOL has been set. Regards Jochen ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-09 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jochen oo...@jochenschiffers.de wrote: Hi *, Am 09.04.2013 15:53, schrieb Pedro: The image just needs to be corrected by user uroveits. I´m uroveits. I've been watching this thread and I will change the graphic when EOL has been set. :-) Great. As Pedro

[Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-08 Thread Robinson Tryon
On the ReleasePlan page[1] we have detailed descriptions of the release dates of our builds, but I don't see any mention of the End of Life (EOL) dates for the builds and branches, except for a small note on the 'Lifecycle' graphic. Do we have EOL dates in mind for our builds and branches? Is

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lifecycle of builds?

2013-04-08 Thread Pedro
at AskLibO (or any other support channel) can tell people that the version x is no longer supported and that they really need to update their software :) Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Lifecycle-of-builds-tp4048583p4048605.html