Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 02/18/2016 09:02 AM, Ineiev wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 08:17:33AM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 02/17/2016 11:23 PM, Ineiev wrote: >> >>> Trademarks only work when registered per-country; more important, >>> they imply a product to be sold. the GNU GPL is not sold >>> in any reasonable

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 08:17:33AM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 02/17/2016 11:23 PM, Ineiev wrote: > > > Trademarks only work when registered per-country; more important, > > they imply a product to be sold. the GNU GPL is not sold > > in any reasonable sense; in fact, the GNU project denies

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 02/17/2016 11:23 PM, Ineiev wrote: > Trademarks only work when registered per-country; more important, > they imply a product to be sold. the GNU GPL is not sold > in any reasonable sense; in fact, the GNU project denies that > (free) software should be treated like a product. > I wish that

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 05:39:28PM +, Sam Pablo Kuper wrote: > On 12/02/16 17:04, Blaise Alleyne wrote: > > > > I don't think copyright is an appropriate or effective tool for reaching the > > objectives you describe above. > > > > Trademark on the other hand, would be, i.e. if someone makes a

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

The free software movement is concerned about the essential freedoms towards functional data[1] and the freedom to, at least, redistribute verbatim copies of a non-functional data non-commercially[2] (except for the case of evaluating system distributions, which must also provide only

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 02/12/2016 02:29 PM, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > There are cases of misuse of the material published by the Free > Software Foundation, at least here in Brazil. Although, as far as I > know, there's no evidence that they were brought to the consent of the > FSF, or (supposing the existence

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 11/02/16 11:05 AM, Joshua Gay wrote: > On 02/11/2016 07:29 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> People may actively work on something (e.g. a paper or some slides) to >> promote a particular point of view (e.g. Free Software) >> >> Somebody else may take 90% of the slides and just change 10% of them and

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 02/12/2016 09:24 AM, Tobias Platen wrote: > > Copyleft requires that the exact license text is passed to all readers > and users. One can still modify the GPL, but that modified licence needs > a different name, as it is not the original work. Even if the GPL were > not copyrighted, as laws

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 11/02/16 15:11, Fabio Pesari wrote: > On 02/11/2016 01:29 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> Somebody else may take 90% of the slides and just change 10% of them and >> start using them to promote a similar point of view (e.g. Open Source) > > If the free software philosophy is indeed the strongest

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 11/02/16 07:08 AM, Fabio Pesari wrote: > I know this is going to be controversial and I understand that the FSF > is about software and not culture but in truth, I disagree with the > FSF's (and the GNU project's) usage of nonfree cultural licenses (like > the CC-BY-ND). > > I disagree with

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 12/02/16 12:24 PM, Tobias Platen wrote: > > > On 02/12/2016 06:04 PM, Blaise Alleyne wrote: >> On 11/02/16 11:05 AM, Joshua Gay wrote: >>> On 02/11/2016 07:29 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: People may actively work on something (e.g. a paper or some slides) to promote a particular point

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 02/12/2016 06:47 PM, Blaise Alleyne wrote: > [...] > > The FSF is a guiding light for software freedom. That light is made less > bright > by its inconsistent commitment to freedom for non-software works, but it's > frequent and prominent use of non-free licenses for non-software. That light

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

The FSF already releases lots of things under free licenses -- virtually all of the graphics, banners, stickers, etc are under free licenses. The Email Self Defense Guide is under a free license https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/ LibrePlanet wiki is under the GNU FDL and the conference

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 The FSF should be about software, and the staff should strive not express their feelings regarding other things. As you correctly identify, free culture benefits the free software struggle (and vice versa) -- however, being anti-non-free culture

[libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

I know this is going to be controversial and I understand that the FSF is about software and not culture but in truth, I disagree with the FSF's (and the GNU project's) usage of nonfree cultural licenses (like the CC-BY-ND). I disagree with the idea that things that express a subjective point of

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 02/11/2016 07:29 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > People may actively work on something (e.g. a paper or some slides) to > promote a particular point of view (e.g. Free Software) > > Somebody else may take 90% of the slides and just change 10% of them and > start using them to promote a similar

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 02/11/2016 03:58 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > > The FSF should be about software, and the staff should strive not > express their feelings regarding other things. As you correctly > identify, free culture benefits the free software struggle (and vice > versa) -- however, being anti-non-free

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-11 8:05 GMT-08:00 Joshua Gay : > Out of curiousity, for those that do strongly believe all works should > be freely licensed, do you believe that GNU GPL, is therefore itself a > work that is an injustice to those who recieve it and that it should be > condemned and avoided?

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 02/11/2016 05:05 PM, Joshua Gay wrote: > Out of curiousity, for those that do strongly believe all works should > be freely licensed, do you believe that GNU GPL, is therefore itself a > work that is an injustice to those who recieve it and that it should be > condemned and avoided? Trick

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/02/16 17:05, Joshua Gay wrote: > Out of curiousity, for those that do strongly believe all works > should be freely licensed, do you believe that GNU GPL, is > therefore itself a work that is an injustice to those who recieve > it and that it

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

On 02/11/2016 05:25 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: > I don't think the GPL example is a good one as it would be fair use to > create a license very similar to the GPL. If the GPL itself were CC > BY-SA, then the FSF could insist on derivatives *not* carrying the "GNU" > name anyway. Regardless, if someone