License approval process working?

2001-01-20 Thread Carter Bullard
Gentle people, I submitted my company's Open Source license almost a month ago, and resent it a week ago, yet I have received no response, and nothing of it has appeared on the discussion list. It's not controversial. Did I do something wrong? Should I send it again? Carter Carter

License Approval Process

2000-08-17 Thread Alexandra White
I wanted to get some feedback about the best way to assist in streamlining OSI license approval for customers. 1) For instance, we have a number of customers who we are helping to take their code to the open source and thus are assisting in getting OSI approval for them. While we encourage

Re: License Approval Process

2000-08-17 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Alexandra White wrote: I wanted to get some feedback about the best way to assist in streamlining OSI license approval for customers. OSI is doing what we can to approve licenses; in fact we approved a couple at a meeting this week during Linuxworld, once we get our

Re: License Approval Process

2000-08-17 Thread David Johnson
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Alexandra White wrote: 2) What minor changes to an existing OSI license are acceptable without seeking approval? Personal opinion, I am in no way associated with OSI... I would say that changing the name is perfectly acceptable. Changing the warranty disclaimer is also

Re: License Approval Process

2000-08-10 Thread Derek J. Balling
Something to keep in mind. For a company, when it comes down to 1.) Pay nobody for advice and have your open-source license fall into a black hole", or 2.) Pay nobody and have your staff lawyers who were going to be there anyway draft up a nice closed-source license from all the boiler-plate

Re: License Approval Process

2000-08-10 Thread Rick Moen
begin Derek J. Balling quotation: Something to keep in mind. For a company, when it comes down to 1.) Pay nobody for advice and have your open-source license fall into a black hole", or 2.) Pay nobody and have your staff lawyers who were going to be there anyway draft up a nice

Re: License Approval Process

2000-08-10 Thread Tom Hull
Rick Moen wrote: You know, I don't speak for anyone else (which is why I can speak my mind) -- but, _if_ I were a volunteer OSI Board member, busy with an otherwise productive life, and I saw the time-wastage, the endless recapitulation of eminently FAQable material, [...] Good idea. Where

Re: License Approval Process

2000-08-10 Thread Rick Moen
begin Tom Hull quotation: Good idea. Where is the FAQ? There isn't yet one. Ideally, such a FAQ should be maintained by someone who can act/speak _for_ OSI. I have no standing with that group. (An advertised, searchable list archive would also be helpful.) -- Cheers,

RE: License Approval Process

2000-08-09 Thread Brice, Richard
Message- From: Lawrence E. Rosen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 6:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:License Approval Process To the Open Source community: The board of directors of OSI, which has

RE: License Approval Process

2000-08-09 Thread SamBC
-Original Message- From: Brice, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I've seen may requests for OSI license certification over the past year. I would be helpful if you could publish a list of licenses pending review, and their priority, so those of us that have submitted a license

License Approval Process

2000-08-08 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
To the Open Source community: The board of directors of OSI, which has responsibility to approve licenses, is composed of volunteers. They are doing their best to catch up with the backlog of submitted licenses. Given their other activities, this is taking more time than we'd like. I hope you

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-16 Thread John Cowan
"Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: I think I understand how this works. You do. AA. The Angels right to make their own derivative works of X is diminished to the extent that the Angels do not have an automatic license to take additions and modifications from the derivative works produced by

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Brice, Richard
I agree with most of the points made on this discussion. The more licenses that exist, the more splintered the open source community will become. You can't use source code licensed with License X with source code licensed with License Z (ok, that's a generalization but I don't think it is too far

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread John Cowan
Michael Stutz wrote: Is it *possible* for a license to be compatible with another? Offhand I can think of just two possibilities for the GPL: the LGPL, and code that has no license and is in the public domain. The "new BSD" and the equivalent MIT license are compatible with the GPL; the "old

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Matthew C. Weigel
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, John Cowan wrote: The "new BSD" and the equivalent MIT license are compatible with the GPL; the "old BSD" license with the advertising requirement is not. In general, a license is compatible with the GPL if it imposes the same, or fewer, restrictions than the GPL.

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread John Cowan
"Matthew C. Weigel" wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, John Cowan wrote: The "new BSD" and the equivalent MIT license are compatible with the GPL; the "old BSD" license with the advertising requirement is not. In general, a license is compatible with the GPL if it imposes the same, or

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Rob Edgeworth
snip The only other reason I can think of to get OSI approval for your license is for advertising purposes. In that case, I guess you'll just have to wait until somebody from the OSI speaks up. I'm no expert, but, personally, I don't think it's worth the trouble. So you can't put ``open

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Seth David Schoen
Rob Edgeworth writes: snip The only other reason I can think of to get OSI approval for your license is for advertising purposes. In that case, I guess you'll just have to wait until somebody from the OSI speaks up. I'm no expert, but, personally, I don't think it's worth the trouble.

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Jacques Chester
Hello all; Martin Konold wrote: [..] The only acceptable license for RMS is finally the GPL. This means that according to RMS in the end everything shall be licensed under the GPL without exceptions. I look on this as a bit of a strawman. It's easy to be confused by Richard's subtle

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Andrew J Bromage
G'day all. On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Michael Stutz wrote: Is it *possible* for a license to be compatible with another? Offhand I can think of just two possibilities for the GPL: the LGPL, and code that has no license and is in the public domain. On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 07:35:57PM -0500,

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread David Johnson
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, John Cowan wrote: The "new BSD" and the equivalent MIT license are compatible with the GPL; the "old BSD" license with the advertising requirement is not. In general, a license is compatible with the GPL if it imposes the same, or fewer, restrictions than the GPL. To be

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread David Johnson
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Andrew J Bromage wrote: soapbox Contrary to popular belief, "free speech" (as RMS describes it) is not the same as "free time". "Free time" has no strings attached, whereas "free speech" has implied responsibilities. Unfortunately, the FSF have never AFAIK noted that

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Alex Nicolaou
"Brice, Richard" wrote: I agree with most of the points made on this discussion. The more licenses that exist, the more splintered the open source community will become. You can't use source code licensed with License X with source code licensed with License Z (ok, that's a generalization

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Alex Nicolaou
David Johnson wrote: And you're also forgetting the "idiot filter" quality of this list. Someone submits a license. Everyone proceeds to call in the question the submitter's ancestry or proclivities. The submitters leaves in disgust. Those that do manage to stick around after the first two

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Geoff Eldridge
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Alex Nicolaou wrote: My conclusion: skip the certification. Write your code. If people want it, they'll read your license after they're using it and send you complaints. Spend the time on the important part ... the software. We in the Eiffel community have struck a

RE: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
D] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Cowan Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 13:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Approval Process "Matthew C. Weigel" wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, John Cowan wrote: The "new BSD" and the equivalent MIT license are compa

RE: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Derek J. Balling
ense? None. -Original Message- From: Michael Stutz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:49 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: License Approval Process Richard Brice wrote: You can't use s

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread jcmason
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Michael Stutz wrote: Richard Brice wrote: You can't use source code licensed with License X with source code licensed with License Z (ok, that's a generalization but I don't think it is too far off the mark). Is it *possible* for a license to be compatible with

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread Michael Stutz
Richard Brice wrote: You can't use source code licensed with License X with source code licensed with License Z (ok, that's a generalization but I don't think it is too far off the mark). Is it *possible* for a license to be compatible with another? Offhand I can think of just two

RE: License Approval Process

2000-02-14 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
, February 13, 2000 9:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Approval Process Hello again all; J C Lawrence wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:40:26 -0500 Rafi M Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] It is unfortunate that the powers that be @ opensource.org only seem to be interested

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-14 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
, and you won't have to worry about the OSI's license approval process. The only other reason I can think of to get OSI approval for your license is for advertising purposes. In that case, I guess you'll just have to wait until somebody from the OSI speaks up. I'm no expert, but, personally, I don't

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-14 Thread David Johnson
On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: I see a lot of people asking on this list why their licenses are not being approved. I have to agree with most if not all of your points. There are getting to be too many licenses. And most of the ones being submitted are merely minor modifications

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-14 Thread David Johnson
On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Chris F Clark wrote: The list is supposedly part of a process to certify licenses as "open source". There seems to be no indication that they will ever certify any new licenses (other than from "very large corporations") as qualifying. Among the licenses that have not

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-13 Thread Rafi M. Goldberg
At 6:32 PM -0500 2/13/00, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: Can someone clarify the license approval process for me, please? I sent a draft license to license-approval last week and again a few moments ago, but there does not appear to be a way to confirm that the request has been received or is being

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:40:26 -0500 Rafi M Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Join the club, Scott. I submitted a license months ago and haven't heard a thing. Others have had similar experiences as well. In fact, I don't think any new licenses have been approved under the certification

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-13 Thread Jacques Chester
Hello again all; J C Lawrence wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:40:26 -0500 Rafi M Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] It is unfortunate that the powers that be @ opensource.org only seem to be interested in gaining the support of large corporations and those who decide to just use an

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-13 Thread Rafi M. Goldberg
ESR certainly receives considerable flammage to this effect, I am sure. Hopefully he's reading this and is prepared to defend himself. Hello, Eric! *waves* I'm not looking to flame him, but I would appreciate some acknowledgement. FWIW, I'm trying to get a license certified for some web site

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-13 Thread Wes Bethel, R3vis Corporation
+ Join the club, Scott. I submitted a license months ago and haven't + heard a thing. Others have had similar experiences as well. In + fact, I don't think any new licenses have been approved under the + certification program. my experience has been the same, with the addition