Re: move some OLL functions to vanilla LilyPond? [was: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics]

2020-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 7. Januar 2020 23:53:42 MEZ schrieb Andrew Bernard : >Hi Malte, > >\shapeII is a function I use heavily - heavily - in all my work. It's >indispensable for me at least. I'm very familiar with OpenLilyLib, and >contribute a bit to it, so it's not an issue for me, but that's a >function that r

Re: move some OLL functions to vanilla LilyPond? [was: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics]

2020-01-07 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Malte, \shapeII is a function I use heavily - heavily - in all my work. It's indispensable for me at least. I'm very familiar with OpenLilyLib, and contribute a bit to it, so it's not an issue for me, but that's a function that really ought to go into lilypond core in my view. As for newbies n

Re: move some OLL functions to vanilla LilyPond? [was: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics]

2020-01-06 Thread Urs Liska
4. Januar 2020 12:34, "Malte Meyn" schrieb: > Am 04.01.20 um 12:29 schrieb Malte Meyn: > >> But that brings me to another question: Shouldn’t we add the \dynamic > >> command from openlilylib to >> vanilla LilyPond? This would allow users to > have “p dolce”, “più f” and >> ‘exotic’ dynamics l

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-06 Thread Peter Toye
Sunday, January 5, 2020, 10:28:43 PM, you wrote: > Am So., 5. Jan. 2020 um 14:20 Uhr schrieb Peter Toye : >> But I'm really not familiar in any detail with the whole patching process, >> whether or not I use git directly or via LilyDev and/or lily-git and/or >> git-cl (the relationship between

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-05 Thread Wol
On 05/01/2020 22:46, David Kastrup wrote: Okay. That's fine for things like sfzp, but I've got things like "piu f", "molto ff", and looking at it, it looks like piu and molto are in a different font. Iirc, the dynamics font is missing a bunch of characters, which could be why. So how would I get

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-05 Thread David Kastrup
Wols Lists writes: > On 05/01/20 17:22, Malte Meyn wrote: >> >> >> Am 05.01.20 um 18:11 schrieb Wols Lists: >>> Anyways, I'll give you a little tip, and attach my "dynamics.ily" file. >>> All my custom dynamics live in here, and I include it in any work that >>> might need them. I'm *guessing

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-05 Thread Thomas Morley
Am So., 5. Jan. 2020 um 14:20 Uhr schrieb Peter Toye : > > Saturday, January 4, 2020, 6:46:56 PM, you wrote: > > > Am Sa., 4. Jan. 2020 um 16:44 Uhr schrieb Peter > > Toye : > > > Well, coding new functionality is only one possibility. > > ...and debugging someone else's code is even worse. Especia

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/01/20 17:22, Malte Meyn wrote: > > > Am 05.01.20 um 18:11 schrieb Wols Lists: >> Anyways, I'll give you a little tip, and attach my "dynamics.ily" file. >> All my custom dynamics live in here, and I include it in any work that >> might need them. I'm *guessing* that it's very similar to t

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-05 Thread Wol
On 05/01/2020 18:17, Peter Toye wrote: Sunday, January 5, 2020, 5:11:16 PM, you wrote: On 05/01/20 13:20, Peter Toye wrote: Any particular reason you're systemd-free? Okay, my pc is, also, but I run gentoo which defaults to OpenRC. I decided to go for antiX as I was able to get it to insta

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-05 Thread Wol
On 05/01/2020 17:22, Malte Meyn wrote: Am 05.01.20 um 18:11 schrieb Wols Lists: Anyways, I'll give you a little tip, and attach my "dynamics.ily" file. All my custom dynamics live in here,  and I include it in any work that might need them.  I'm *guessing* that it's very similar to the standard

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-05 Thread Peter Toye
Sunday, January 5, 2020, 5:11:16 PM, you wrote: > On 05/01/20 13:20, Peter Toye wrote: > Any particular reason you're systemd-free? > Okay, my pc is, also, but I > run gentoo which defaults to OpenRC. I decided to go for antiX as I was able to get it to install on my antique laptop, which Ubun

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-05 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 05.01.20 um 18:11 schrieb Wols Lists: Anyways, I'll give you a little tip, and attach my "dynamics.ily" file. All my custom dynamics live in here, and I include it in any work that might need them. I'm *guessing* that it's very similar to the standard definitions that exist in lilypond, [

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/01/20 13:20, Peter Toye wrote: > Also, I'm a Linux newbie - still trying to get my head around the whole > 'container' concept. There seem to be a number of different container > management systems: Docker and LXC to name but two. Does it matter which one > I use? My system is systemd-free

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-05 Thread Peter Toye
Saturday, January 4, 2020, 6:46:56 PM, you wrote: > Am Sa., 4. Jan. 2020 um 16:44 Uhr schrieb Peter > Toye : > Well, coding new functionality is only one possibility. ...and debugging someone else's code is even worse. Especially in a language I dn't speak fluently. But I'm really not familiar

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-04 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Sa., 4. Jan. 2020 um 16:44 Uhr schrieb Peter Toye : > > Well, to submit a patch you'll need git. > > Once the setup works, you may want to do more than one patch. > > I was rather hoping my coding days were over :( Well, coding new functionality is only one possibility. Sometimes there are typ

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-04 Thread Peter Toye
Saturday, January 4, 2020, 1:57:25 PM, you wrote: > Am Sa., 4. Jan. 2020 um 14:02 Uhr schrieb Peter > Toye : >> Thanks. CG chapter 2 starts off by saying that LilyDev has everything I >> should need, but then only mentions how to install it under VirtualBox >> (which I don't know at all) in Win

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-04 Thread Peter Toye
Apologies. - Saturday, January 4, 2020, 3:23:30 PM, Dan Eble wrote: > On Jan 4, 2020, at 06:09, Peter Toye > wrote: >> Thanks for that. As everyone seems to be on all the mailing lists. I sort of >> assumed that cross-links wouldn't be necessary. > I am subscribed

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-04 Thread Dan Eble
On Jan 4, 2020, at 06:09, Peter Toye wrote: > > Thanks for that. As everyone seems to be on all the mailing lists. I sort of > assumed that cross-links wouldn't be necessary. I am subscribed to lilypond-devel only. — Dan

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-04 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Sa., 4. Jan. 2020 um 14:02 Uhr schrieb Peter Toye : > Thanks. CG chapter 2 starts off by saying that LilyDev has everything I > should need, but then only mentions how to install it under VirtualBox (which > I don't know at all) in Windows or MacOS. I'm a Linux newbie and haven't used > Unix

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-04 Thread Peter Toye
Thomas, Thanks. CG chapter 2 starts off by saying that LilyDev has everything I should need, but then only mentions how to install it under VirtualBox (which I don't know at all) in Windows or MacOS. I'm a Linux newbie and haven't used Unix since about 2000 (on a Sun box), so it's all a bit of

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-04 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Sa., 4. Jan. 2020 um 12:09 Uhr schrieb Peter Toye : > Yes, I'm on Windows, but have just resurrected an old laptop and have managed > to get a Linux (antiX) system on it. And there's a spare partition to install > LilyDev. I'll download it today. Well, if you have a LINUX-machine, you may co

move some OLL functions to vanilla LilyPond? [was: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics]

2020-01-04 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 04.01.20 um 12:29 schrieb Malte Meyn: But that brings me to another question: Shouldn’t we add the \dynamic command from openlilylib to vanilla LilyPond? This would allow users to have “p dolce”, “più f” and ‘exotic’ dynamics like “mfz” whithout having to define extra commands using make-

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-04 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 04.01.20 um 11:04 schrieb Peter Toye: I suggest that \rf (for rinforzando) be added to the built-in dynamic list. I suggested this on the users list, and got two replies, one fairly positive, one negative. My rationale is that it's accepted as a synonym of rfz, and was used as such by b

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-04 Thread Peter Toye
gt; Afaict, it's > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/A-suggestion-add-rf-to-built-in-dynamics-td226397.html >> My rationale is that it's accepted as a synonym of rfz, and was used as such >> by both Beethoven (who also used rfz and rinf.) and Brahms. And also by a >>

Re: A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-04 Thread Thomas Morley
ns you refer to. Afaict, it's http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/A-suggestion-add-rf-to-built-in-dynamics-td226397.html > My rationale is that it's accepted as a synonym of rfz, and was used as such > by both Beethoven (who also used rfz and rinf.) and Brahms. And also by a far &g

A suggestion: add \rf to built-in dynamics

2020-01-04 Thread Peter Toye
I suggest that \rf (for rinforzando) be added to the built-in dynamic list. I suggested this on the users list, and got two replies, one fairly positive, one negative. My rationale is that it's accepted as a synonym of rfz, and was used as such by both Beethoven (who also used rfz and rinf.) an