Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-17 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/17 Keith OHara : > On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:10:32 -0700, Janek Warchoł > wrote: > >> 2013/4/16 : >>> So what we need is not a vote. What we need is as much feedback as we >>> can get about cases considered problematic, and we need to see whether >>> we can change defaults in a way where the

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread Keith OHara
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:15:23 -0700, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: On 16 avr. 2013, at 22:12, d...@gnu.org wrote: "Wrong placement"? Seriously? Can you give any articulation where you'd get bad behavior for considering just its bounding box? f4->-. In the bad old days, the staccato was spa

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread Keith OHara
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:10:32 -0700, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2013/4/16 : I hate it when I get last-minute realizations. Here is another thing we need to do for the stable release: go through all problems of the "too snug" kind and work out defaults that avoid them. This might be impossible.

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 16 avr. 2013, at 22:12, d...@gnu.org wrote: > On 2013/04/16 11:11:03, janek wrote: >> 2013/4/16 : >> > I hate it when I get last-minute realizations. Here is another > thing we >> > need to do for the stable release: go through all problems of the > "too >> > snug" kind and work out defaults

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread dak
On 2013/04/16 11:11:03, janek wrote: 2013/4/16 : > I hate it when I get last-minute realizations. Here is another thing we > need to do for the stable release: go through all problems of the "too > snug" kind and work out defaults that avoid them. This might be impossible. For example t

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread k-ohara5a5a
https://codereview.appspot.com/8613043/diff/19001/Documentation/changes.tely File Documentation/changes.tely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/8613043/diff/19001/Documentation/changes.tely#newcode160 Documentation/changes.tely:160: #(ly:set-option 'debug-skylines #t) \override Score.Metron

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/16 : > I hate it when I get last-minute realizations. Here is another thing we > need to do for the stable release: go through all problems of the "too > snug" kind and work out defaults that avoid them. This might be impossible. For example to avoid this problem { d''4-.\downbow } we'd

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> So we need feedback from the heavy hitters, and we have annoyingly > few of them I know about. Kieren is one. I don't know how many > tweaks there are in Valentin's opera, but that might be another > opportunity. For my pieces, I always try to avoid overrides and tweaks as much as possible.

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 16 avr. 2013, at 12:59, d...@gnu.org wrote: > On 2013/04/16 08:34:43, MikeSol wrote: >> On 2013/04/16 07:51:46, dak wrote: >> > >> > I hate it when I get last-minute realizations. Here is another >> > thing we need to do for the stable release: go through all >> > problems of the "too snug" ki

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread dak
On 2013/04/16 08:34:43, MikeSol wrote: On 2013/04/16 07:51:46, dak wrote: > > I hate it when I get last-minute realizations. Here is another > thing we need to do for the stable release: go through all > problems of the "too snug" kind and work out defaults that avoid > them. It's ok to tell pe

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread mtsolo
On 2013/04/16 07:51:46, dak wrote: On 2013/04/16 07:40:19, Trevor Daniels wrote: > On 2013/04/16 07:20:59, dak wrote: > > On 2013/04/16 06:05:42, MikeSol wrote: > >> I would add a note that, if there is too-snug spacing > >> for an object, setting its vertical skylines to #'() > >> will generally

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread tdanielsmusic
On 2013/04/16 07:51:46, dak wrote: So for a stable release, we need conservative settings. Settings that won't _force_ people to pepper their sources with overrides and tweaks just to throw them all out again when the next version arrives. So for this particular case we'd need to add predefs l

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread dak
On 2013/04/16 07:40:19, Trevor Daniels wrote: On 2013/04/16 07:20:59, dak wrote: > On 2013/04/16 06:05:42, MikeSol wrote: >> I would add a note that, if there is too-snug spacing >> for an object, setting its vertical skylines to #'() >> will generally restore old behavior. > > I am not really en

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread tdanielsmusic
On 2013/04/16 07:20:59, dak wrote: On 2013/04/16 06:05:42, MikeSol wrote: I would add a note that, if there is too-snug spacing for an object, setting its vertical skylines to #'() will generally restore old behavior. I am not really enthused about telling people that, since "too snug" is a b

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-16 Thread dak
On 2013/04/16 06:05:42, MikeSol wrote: https://codereview.appspot.com/8613043/diff/19001/Documentation/changes.tely File Documentation/changes.tely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/8613043/diff/19001/Documentation/changes.tely#newcode153 Documentation/changes.tely:153: @item I would a

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-15 Thread mtsolo
https://codereview.appspot.com/8613043/diff/19001/Documentation/changes.tely File Documentation/changes.tely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/8613043/diff/19001/Documentation/changes.tely#newcode153 Documentation/changes.tely:153: @item I would add a note that, if there is too-snug spacin

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-13 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/13 Keith OHara : > On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 03:24:46 -0700, wrote: >> actually, placement of d4-.\downbow looks like a bug to me. Its too >> similar to square fermata. > > All the more reason to include it in the "changes" announcement. We would > not want this to surprise anyone. ok >> Anot

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-12 Thread Keith OHara
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 03:24:46 -0700, wrote: https://codereview.appspot.com/8613043/diff/5001/Documentation/changes.tely#newcode162 Documentation/changes.tely:162: c'4\f a4\f d\f( f) On 2013/04/12 06:53:34, Keith wrote: d'4-.\downbow a4^"r'venu..." c \tempo "T1" e shows more of the affected g

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-12 Thread janek . lilypond
https://codereview.appspot.com/8613043/diff/5001/Documentation/changes.tely File Documentation/changes.tely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/8613043/diff/5001/Documentation/changes.tely#newcode156 Documentation/changes.tely:156: using an integral-like approach. This generally results in

Re: Add changes entry for Mike's work on skylines. (issue 8613043)

2013-04-11 Thread k-ohara5a5a
lgtm https://codereview.appspot.com/8613043/diff/5001/Documentation/changes.tely File Documentation/changes.tely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/8613043/diff/5001/Documentation/changes.tely#newcode156 Documentation/changes.tely:156: using an integral-like approach. This generally resul