Re: Google Summer of Code project

On 3/13/2020 12:37 AM, Owen Lamb wrote: I'm interested in applying for a GSoC project. Any suggestions on where to start / who to talk to? Thanks for your interest! Urs Liska leads most of the GSOC efforts. He follows this list, so you've already found the best place to begin. -- Karlin Hi

Re: Google Summer of Code

Am 17.01.19 um 17:11 schrieb Karlin High: On 1/17/2019 12:52 AM, Tsz Kiu Pang wrote: I was just wondering if I want to contribute to the development, where should I start from? For development in general, the Contributor's Guide:

Re: Google Summer of Code

On 1/17/2019 12:52 AM, Tsz Kiu Pang wrote: I was just wondering if I want to contribute to the development, where should I start from? For development in general, the Contributor's Guide: For Google Summer of Code, probably t

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Hi David G., Here are a couple of suggestions: On "SXML parser" I think what you want to say is GUILE's SXML module: https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/SXML.html#SXML In relation to Frescobaldi's partial MusicXML export, I would say "my project aims to improve upon this approach

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Am 19.03.2015 um 09:10 schrieb David Kastrup: Out of curiosity, what has been the major challenge for developers >over the years? Starting. Exactly. What is necessary is the coincidence of - the need - someone being capable of working on the subject - this person being interested in doing s

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

David Garfinkle writes: > Okay, thanks David for the quick reply. I have put my application in a google > doc here: > > > If you could briefly look it over, that would be great. I will send it in t

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Okay, thanks David for the quick reply. I have put my application in a google doc here: If you could briefly look it over, that would be great. I will send it in to the google-melange website on Fr

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

David Kastrup wrote >> What part of MusicXML conversion is best contained for a summer's >> project? > > Export I think. In its simplest form, it just converts a music > expression into a list and then to SXML which can be consecutively > dumped without any modification. That would be a tangible

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

David Garfinkle writes: > Heyo, > > I finished my midterms and am working on my GSOC application. Please let me > know if I've grasped this right: > > If I understand correctly, export involves converting natural lilypond > scheme data into SXML so we can use Guile to reduce the problem of XML >

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Heyo, I finished my midterms and am working on my GSOC application. Please let me know if I've grasped this right: If I understand correctly, export involves converting natural lilypond scheme data into SXML so we can use Guile to reduce the problem of XML conversion. And for import, it's the sam

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Hello David, Georgy, all, I got a message from Paul that you're interested in working on LilyPond during GSoC - that's great! I think that both musicxml support and tie formatting can be shaped into GSoC projects, although I expect that these projects would be quite open-ended. I also expect tha

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

For more background on MusicXML, here's a relevant tracker issue: Issue 665: Request: MusicXML backend https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=665 For more insight into the ties and slurs work (beyond what David K. wrote in his last message) it would be good to hear from Janek Wa

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Georgy Frolov writes: > Hello, > > I too would like to do a lilypond-related GSoC project. I'm doing the > final year of my MSc degree in mathematical physics, sing in a choir > and occasionally use lilypond to typeset some choral scores; not yet > familiar with its internals though. > > I've bee

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Hello, I too would like to do a lilypond-related GSoC project. I'm doing the final year of my MSc degree in mathematical physics, sing in a choir and occasionally use lilypond to typeset some choral scores; not yet familiar with its internals though. I've been working much with numerical codes in

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Thanks for all the info and support! I am happy there is interest in the program. In response to Urs' first reply, it seems as though lily <-> xml is the more GSoC-oriented project. I take it that the tie formatting project is too large? Does alternative involve implementing heuristics that Janek W

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Urs Liska writes: > Am 05.03.2015 um 21:28 schrieb Paul Morris: >> Urs Liska wrote >>> What you describe about the "Frescobaldi" approach is true, at least >>> that's where this approach is coming from. However, we are discussing >>> the other one too, because it would of course be very helpful t

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Am 05.03.2015 um 21:28 schrieb Paul Morris: Urs Liska wrote What you describe about the "Frescobaldi" approach is true, at least that's where this approach is coming from. However, we are discussing the other one too, because it would of course be very helpful to have as much as possible done

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Urs Liska wrote > What you describe about the "Frescobaldi" approach is true, at least > that's where this approach is coming from. However, we are discussing > the other one too, because it would of course be very helpful to have as > much as possible done _within_ LilyPond. So this is not nece

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Am 05.03.2015 um 18:38 schrieb Paul Morris: Urs Liska wrote One thing to keep in mind with this is not to be too focused on MusicXML. MusicXML is _one_ XML format, and not the best. I think the first step should be a generic XML representation, so LilyPond could read XML files - and also write

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Paul Morris wrote > [0] > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/converting-LilyPond-score-to-XML-tc171447.html Oops, this link has the replies: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/converting-LilyPond-score-to-XML-tc171442.html -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Urs Liska wrote > One thing to keep in mind with this is not to be too focused on MusicXML. > MusicXML is _one_ XML format, and not the best. > I think the first step should be a generic XML representation, so > LilyPond could read XML files - and also write to them. MusicXML or MEI > or whatever

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Am 05.03.2015 10:57, schrieb David Kastrup: "Phil Holmes" writes: - Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "David Garfinkle" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:01 AM Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2015 Actually anything. LilyPond

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "David Kastrup" > To: "David Garfinkle" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:01 AM > Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2015 > > >> Actually anything. LilyPond do

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "David Garfinkle" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:01 AM Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2015 Actually anything. LilyPond does neither export nor import MusicXML. It does import it, albeit probably

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

David Garfinkle writes: > Hi, > > I'm a computer science and music (piano) undergrad student at McGill, > and I'm interested in contributing to Lilypond as part of the > Google Summer of Code program. > I looked through the list of projects on > and found t

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Am 05.03.2015 um 06:27 schrieb Paul Morris: Hi David, Glad you're interested in working on LilyPond for GSoC! I looked into Google's rules[1] and even though LilyPond is not one of the accepted mentoring organizations (the deadline has passed for that) the GNU project is.[2] Since LilyPond i

Re: Google Summer of Code 2015

Hi David, Glad you're interested in working on LilyPond for GSoC! I looked into Google's rules[1] and even though LilyPond is not one of the accepted mentoring organizations (the deadline has passed for that) the GNU project is.[2] Since LilyPond is part of the GNU project, a LilyPond GSoC pro

Re: Google Summer of Code

Op Sun, 08 Feb 2015 17:26:45 +0100 Urs Liska schreef: > * MusicXML should definitely be considered in the context of actual > development taking place in the Frescobaldi context. At least it > should be harmonized with that effort. And: same question as > above: Are Reinhold Kainho

Re: Google Summer of Code

Urs Liska writes: > Am 08.02.2015 um 17:35 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Urs Liska writes: >> >>> * One of the most crucial project is missing from the list: Guile 2.0 >>> migration. Here it is the other way round: David has explained why >>> this actually would be a good GSoC project. >>

Re: Google Summer of Code

Am 08.02.2015 um 17:35 schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: * One of the most crucial project is missing from the list: Guile 2.0 migration. Here it is the other way round: David has explained why this actually would be a good GSoC project. I think it has ceased being a good GS

Re: Google Summer of Code

Urs Liska writes: > * One of the most crucial project is missing from the list: Guile 2.0 >migration. Here it is the other way round: David has explained why >this actually would be a good GSoC project. I think it has ceased being a good GSoC project since I have fixed all the low-hangi

Re: Google Summer of Code

Am 08.02.2015 um 15:45 schrieb James Lowe: On 07/02/15 23:47, Urs Liska wrote: Am 08.02.2015 um 00:12 schrieb James Lowe: On 07/02/15 21:06, David Garfinkle wrote: Hi, I'm a Math, CS, and music student at McGill and I just read about the google student summer program. I would love to help de

Re: Google Summer of Code

On 07/02/15 23:47, Urs Liska wrote: > > Am 08.02.2015 um 00:12 schrieb James Lowe: >> On 07/02/15 21:06, David Garfinkle wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm a Math, CS, and music student at McGill and I just read >>> about the google student summer program. I would love to help >>> develop LilyPond! How c

Re: Google Summer of Code

Urs Liska wrote > Guile 2.0 transition. Here's the description of the GUILE 2.0 project from last year: https://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas-2014.html I don't think any of the ideas listed on the lilypond.org GSoC page have already been completed/exhausted, so they are not out of date

Re: Google Summer of Code

Am 08.02.2015 um 00:12 schrieb James Lowe: On 07/02/15 21:06, David Garfinkle wrote: Hi, I'm a Math, CS, and music student at McGill and I just read about the google student summer program. I would love to help develop LilyPond! How can I get involved/what projects are up for grabs/do I sugges

Re: Google Summer of Code

On 07/02/15 21:06, David Garfinkle wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a Math, CS, and music student at McGill and I just read about > the google student summer program. I would love to help develop > LilyPond! How can I get involved/what projects are up for grabs/do > I suggest my own project? http://lilypond.

Re: Google Summer of Code, LilyPond and GNU

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > Let's see if we can rescue this somehow. > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 09:52:00AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Graham Percival >> wrote: >> > No. Put the patch on rietveld, and once people have commented, i

Re: Google Summer of Code, LilyPond and GNU

On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 01:22:42PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Graham Percival > wrote: > > What happens about the tax form?  I'm not signing any legal > > document unless I'm certain it's the right thing.  Is GNU > > submitting that "foreign income" thing for us

Re: Google Summer of Code, LilyPond and GNU

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 10:48:28PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> Graham, i understand that you'll be our project administrator.  When >> Ideas List will be up, you'll have to register at >> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/googl

Re: Google Summer of Code, LilyPond and GNU

On 3/5/12 3:17 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > >What happens about the tax form? I'm not signing any legal >document unless I'm certain it's the right thing. Is GNU >submitting that "foreign income" thing for us ? ... although I >suppose that GNU is an American organization, so they'd file a >di

Re: Google Summer of Code, LilyPond and GNU

On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 10:48:28PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Rodrigo Rodrigues da Silva > wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 23:56 +, Graham Percival wrote: > >> > >> Hmm. My instinct would be to try it separately, anyway. We're > >> not the size of gcc or g

Re: Google Summer of Code, LilyPond and GNU

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Rodrigo Rodrigues da Silva wrote: > On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 23:56 +, Graham Percival wrote: >> >> Hmm. My instinct would be to try it separately, anyway. We're >> not the size of gcc or gnome, but we're not trivial: [...] > > Sure, you can always try. And if you

Re: Google Summer of Code - legal matters, FSF

Janek Warchoł writes: Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Thorsten wrote: >> a bit insprired by the GSoC 2012 preparations of the Lilypond community, >> the Orgmode community is thinking about a participation too. >> >> While the whole application process is pretty transparent and clear, th

Re: Google Summer of Code - legal matters, FSF

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Thorsten wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: > > Hi, >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Thorsten wrote: >>> a bit insprired by the GSoC 2012 preparations of the Lilypond community, >>> the Orgmode community is thinking about a participation too. >>> >>> While the

Re: Google Summer of Code - legal matters, FSF

Hi, On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Thorsten wrote: > a bit insprired by the GSoC 2012 preparations of the Lilypond community, > the Orgmode community is thinking about a participation too. > > While the whole application process is pretty transparent and clear, the > question how GNU and the FS

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

> Metatype1 is hosted on a polish server: > > http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/metatype1 At the time I did the transition to mf2pt1, I had compared the various approaches of converting METAFONT outlines to Type1 fonts. mf2pt1 appeared as the most straightforward approach, much easier th

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On 22 February 2012 18:36, David Kastrup wrote: > > Looks like I sloppily considered Metatype and Metatype1 the same > project. The download README is from 2009, and there have been a number > of fonts produced using it. > http://ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/utilities/metatype1> > > The Polish TeX

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:12 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: >> >>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:42 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Somewhat independently, there is a mf2pt1.pl Perl script that >> (shudder) generates .pe script to transform a me

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On 2/22/12 10:17 AM, "Han-Wen Nienhuys" wrote: >On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:12 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: >> >>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:42 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Somewhat independently, there is a mf2pt1.pl Perl script that >> (shudder) generates .pe s

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:12 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:42 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Somewhat independently, there is a mf2pt1.pl Perl script that > (shudder) generates .pe script to transform a metapost output to a > Type 1 fo

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:42 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Somewhat independently, there is a mf2pt1.pl Perl script that (shudder) generates .pe script to transform a metapost output to a Type 1 font.  I guess that could be done more concisely directly as >>>

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:42 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >>> Somewhat independently, there is a mf2pt1.pl Perl script that >>> (shudder) generates .pe script to transform a metapost output to a >>> Type 1 font.  I guess that could be done more concisely directly as >>> a python script. >> >> This sou

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

Werner LEMBERG writes: >> Somewhat independently, there is a mf2pt1.pl Perl script that >> (shudder) generates .pe script to transform a metapost output to a >> Type 1 font. I guess that could be done more concisely directly as >> a python script. > > This sounds like a very nice addition. Mayb

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

> Somewhat independently, there is a mf2pt1.pl Perl script that > (shudder) generates .pe script to transform a metapost output to a > Type 1 font. I guess that could be done more concisely directly as > a python script. This sounds like a very nice addition. Maybe generating Python should be t

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: > In another thread Han-Wen wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: >> Also, nowadays, fontforge supports Python scripting. We could redo all >> the craziness involving generated files and legacy .pe scripts in >> p

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:41 PM, pls wrote: > Yes, you're right.  But I'd say the other results are also interesting > because they show that the same .xml-file is represented differently by > different notation softwares (e.g. concerning page breaks , lyrics...) Sure; it's far from being perf

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

Am 21.02.2012 um 22:04 schrieb Janek Warchoł: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:56 PM, pls wrote: >> >> Am 16.02.2012 um 13:02 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys >>> What happens if you take a fully formatted file from Finale and load >>> it into Sibelius via the musicxml route, and the reverse? Is anyone >>>

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: > Please give your suggested projects. In another thread Han-Wen wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > Also, nowadays, fontforge supports Python scripting. We could redo all > the craziness involving generated fi

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:56 PM, pls wrote: > > Am 16.02.2012 um 13:02 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys >> What happens if you take a fully formatted file from Finale and load >> it into Sibelius via the musicxml route, and the reverse? Is anyone >> able to post the before and after PDFs of such a transit

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

Am 16.02.2012 um 13:25 schrieb catch...@philholmes.me.uk: > Quoting Han-Wen Nienhuys : > >> What happens if you take a fully formatted file from Finale and load >> it into Sibelius via the musicxml route, and the reverse? Is anyone >> able to post the before and after PDFs of such a transition?

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

Quoting Han-Wen Nienhuys : What happens if you take a fully formatted file from Finale and load it into Sibelius via the musicxml route, and the reverse? Is anyone able to post the before and after PDFs of such a transition? Sibelius will not export in MusicXML format. ---

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > It is much easier to export just the music contents (in scheme, just > using the output of the iterators), but that solves only part of the > problem. To be able to provide solutions for composers in the > professional music publishing w

Re: google summer of code

On 11/02/2012 14:00, Graham Percival wrote: > I believe that one of the major things that GSoC looks are is "how > good is the list of tasks suggested by that project". Yes, most applicants (who are not yet involved with a project) will simply look at the list and select one of the suggested proje

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On 12/02/2012 12:51, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: >> 2) Adding comprehensive MusicXML import and export features, together >> > with test suites for it. Requirements: ? (no idea in which language >> > this would be written), MusicXML, basic LilyPond and music notation >> > knowledge; familiarity w

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On 12/02/2012 15:13, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:03:48PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> 2) Adding comprehensive MusicXML import and export features, together >> with test suites for it. Requirements: ? (no idea in which language >> this would be written), MusicXML, basic Li

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On 12/02/2012 15:43, Janek Warchoł wrote: > W dniu 12 lutego 2012 15:13 użytkownik Graham Percival > napisał: >> umm, you know that we already have musicxml2ly import, right? > Yes. I had some issues with it - dynamics got attached to wrong > notes. The problem is that in LilyPond, each dynami

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On 12/02/2012 12:03, Janek Warchoł wrote: > Hi all, > > SUMMARY: in order to participate in Google Summer of Code ($$$), we > need an Ideas List. > > (to learn more about GSoC, go here > http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2012) > > An Ideas List should be a list of suggested stu

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

The list can be quite long. We don't have to limit it to 2 projects :) Łukasz On 13 February 2012 12:51, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Janek Warchoł > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > SUMMARY: in order to participate in Google Summer of Code ($$$), we > > need an Ideas L

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote: > Hi all, > > SUMMARY: in order to participate in Google Summer of Code ($$$), we > need an Ideas List. I think the most interesting is probably #1 (grace note synchronization) and #2 (musicxml). Of those, I recommend #2 over #1, since the g

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

W dniu 12 lutego 2012 15:13 użytkownik Graham Percival napisał: > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:03:48PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> 2) Adding comprehensive MusicXML import and export features, together >> with test suites for it.  Requirements: ? (no idea in which language >> this would be written

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:03:48PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > 2) Adding comprehensive MusicXML import and export features, together > with test suites for it. Requirements: ? (no idea in which language > this would be written), MusicXML, basic LilyPond and music notation > knowledge; familiarit

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

W dniu 12 lutego 2012 12:51 użytkownik m...@apollinemike.com napisał: > >> 3) Horizontal Spacing of Objects Attached to Notes, esp. Accidentals: >> make spacing depend on tightness of the music.  This is thoroughly >> explained in issues 2141, 2142, 2143 ans 2144.  Also, the >> infrastructure need

Re: Google Summer of Code - Ideas List, please discuss

All of these look good. On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: > General student prerequisites: (basic?) git knowledge > > 1) Fixing problems with synchronization of grace notes, together with > all underlying architecture (issue 34). Requirements: C++, MIDI; > familiarity with basic

Re: google summer of code

W dniu 11 lutego 2012 14:45 użytkownik Graham Percival napisał: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 02:32:31PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> We can set prerequisites like C++, git and music (notation) knowledge, >> so that we won't have to mentor people about this (takes a lot of >> time). > > Agreed about

Re: google summer of code

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 02:32:31PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > W dniu 11 lutego 2012 13:33 użytkownik Graham Percival > napisał: > > Time+effort required to write a proposal.  Would you be happy > > delaying the 2.16 for, say, a month, while we spend effort writing > > that proposal (which may o

Re: google summer of code

W dniu 11 lutego 2012 13:33 użytkownik Graham Percival napisał: > Time+effort required to write a proposal.  Would you be happy > delaying the 2.16 for, say, a month, while we spend effort writing > that proposal (which may or may not be accepted) ?  When all's > said and done, I wouldn't be surpr

Re: google summer of code

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 01:43:06PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > Time+effort required to write a proposal. > > I would expect the "student" to do most of that. I believe that one of the major things that GSoC looks are is "how good is the list of tasks suggested by

Re: google summer of code

Graham Percival writes: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 09:59:12AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Janek Warchoł writes: >> >> > So, are there any reasons not to do it? >> >> I don't think so. > > Time+effort required to write a proposal. I would expect the "student" to do most of that. It would be

Re: google summer of code

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 09:59:12AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: > > > So, are there any reasons not to do it? > > I don't think so. Time+effort required to write a proposal. Would you be happy delaying the 2.16 for, say, a month, while we spend effort writing that propos

Re: google summer of code

2012/2/11 David Kastrup : > Łukasz Czerwiński writes: > >> 2012/2/10 David Kastrup : >>> Don't get me wrong: it is probably quite enough work for getting someone >>> started.  I'm just not sure whether it will be easy to sell it off.  The >>> largest part of the work would realistically consist in

Re: google summer of code

Łukasz Czerwiński writes: > 2012/2/10 David Kastrup : >> Don't get me wrong: it is probably quite enough work for getting someone >> started.  I'm just not sure whether it will be easy to sell it off.  The >> largest part of the work would realistically consist in digging oneself >> into sparsely

Re: google summer of code

2012/2/10 David Kastrup : >* Don't get me wrong: it is probably quite enough work for getting someone* >* started. I'm just not sure whether it will be easy to sell it off. The* >* largest part of the work would realistically consist in digging oneself* >* into sparsely documented areas, just in

Re: google summer of code

Janek Warchoł writes: > 2012/2/9 Graham Percival : >> Does anybody feel like submitting a proposal to google summer of >> code?  IIRC students must be registered at a school, so this isn't >> something that would help any senior developer, but it's still >> $5500 for any student that ends up work

Re: google summer of code

2012/2/9 Graham Percival : > Does anybody feel like submitting a proposal to google summer of > code?  IIRC students must be registered at a school, so this isn't > something that would help any senior developer, but it's still > $5500 for any student that ends up working on lilypond over the > sum

Re: google summer of code

2012/2/10 David Kastrup : > Don't get me wrong: it is probably quite enough work for getting someone > started.  I'm just not sure whether it will be easy to sell it off.  The > largest part of the work would realistically consist in digging oneself > into sparsely documented areas, just in order t

Re: google summer of code

Janek Warchoł writes: > 2012/2/10 David Kastrup : >> Janek Warchoł writes: >>> Sorry, i don't understand. Do you think that grace timing is too >>> small or too big for GSoC? >> >> It _sounds_ too small, but may turn out to be quite a number. >> Basically, it requires a solid understanding of i

Re: google summer of code

2012/2/10 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: >> Sorry, i don't understand. Do you think that grace timing is too >> small or too big for GSoC? > > It _sounds_ too small, but may turn out to be quite a number. > Basically, it requires a solid understanding of iterators, analyzing the > music

Re: google summer of code

"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "David Kastrup" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:44 AM > Subject: Re: google summer of code > > >> Janek Warchoł writes: >> >>> 2012/2/9 Graham Percival : >

Re: google summer of code

- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:44 AM Subject: Re: google summer of code Janek Warchoł writes: 2012/2/9 Graham Percival : Probably something like GSoC for "grace timing" would be overkill. OTOH, if a student

Re: google summer of code

On Feb 10, 2012, at 6:44 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2012/2/9 Graham Percival : >>> >>> Probably something like GSoC for "grace timing" would be overkill. >>> OTOH, if a student starts from a blank slate and mentoring is not >>> doing half the job already on its own, t

Re: google summer of code

Janek Warchoł writes: > 2012/2/9 Graham Percival : >> >> Probably something like GSoC for "grace timing" would be overkill. >> OTOH, if a student starts from a blank slate and mentoring is not >> doing half the job already on its own, there might be less time left >> after a _good_ solution has b

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2012/2/9 Graham Percival : > On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:19:18PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> I'm a student and i'd love to spend my summer working on LilyPond. >> The question is, do you think i qualify? > > I think so.  Read their FAQ.  It all comes down to whether you're > registered at an accr

Re: google summer of code

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:19:18PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > I'm a student and i'd love to spend my summer working on LilyPond. > The question is, do you think i qualify? I think so. Read their FAQ. It all comes down to whether you're registered at an accredited university (or IIRC high scho

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2012/2/9 Graham Percival : > I don't think that we should aim this specifically at Phil (or at > David); rather, we should ask if this is the kind of thing that we > want to spend time on. I think yes. I'm a student and i'd love to spend my summer working on LilyPond. The question is, do you think

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Graham Percival writes: > I don't think that we should aim this specifically at Phil (or at > David); rather, we should ask if this is the kind of thing that we > want to spend time on. Cutting out well-defined tasks taking a non-trivial amount of time is not, in itself, going to do much harm.

Re: google summer of code

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 05:38:31PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > "Phil Holmes" writes: > > > Ooh. I think I qualify - I'm officially a full-time student. I'd be > > happy to share the "bounty"... > > I should be surprised if that is even permitted. Of course, it is > unlikely that they are go

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"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "Graham Percival" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:17 AM > Subject: google summer of code > > >> Does anybody feel like submitting a proposal to google summer of >> code? IIRC students must be registered at a school, so

Re: google summer of code

- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:17 AM Subject: google summer of code Does anybody feel like submitting a proposal to google summer of code? IIRC students must be registered at a school, so this isn't something that would help any

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Graham Percival writes: > Does anybody feel like submitting a proposal to google summer of > code? IIRC students must be registered at a school, so this isn't > something that would help any senior developer, You shouldn't underestimate the number of papers I can wave around when really needed.

Re: Google Summer of Code - should we participate?

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:59:46AM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > 2011/2/23 Janek Warchoł : > > should we participate in Google Summer of Code this year? (it's about > > students from all over the world who work on Open Source projects > > during summer holidays and Google pays them, website: > >

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