Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-25 Thread Trevor Bača
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Trevor, you wrote Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:26 PM On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't change c[ ]! Do you really mean that you've used, say, a b[] c

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-25 Thread Trevor Bača
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two snippets attached here come from the commission I just finished up in February ... OK, so this feature has to be documented, and I withdraw my suggestion. OK, super. Maybe the examples I just sent over to

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-25 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 10/25/08 5:23 PM, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trevor, you wrote Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:26 PM On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe a quick mention of

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-25 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Trevor, this is cool! I think in your first example, though, where you want to illustrate right-pointing flags on a lone note, you mean to say set stemLeftBeamCount to zero? Or do I misunderstand the example? Otherwise the first and second examples display the same thing. Jon Trevor Bača

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-25 Thread Trevor Bača
2008/10/25 Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/25/08 5:23 PM, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trevor, you wrote Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:26 PM On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Werner

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-25 Thread Trevor Bača
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Trevor, this is cool! I think in your first example, though, where you want to illustrate right-pointing flags on a lone note, you mean to say set stemLeftBeamCount to zero? Or do I misunderstand the example? Otherwise

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor, you wrote Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:26 PM On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't change c[ ]! Do you really mean that you've used, say, a b[] c within your score? Currently, this is an undocumented feature, so you are use

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
The two snippets attached here come from the commission I just finished up in February ... OK, so this feature has to be documented, and I withdraw my suggestion. Werner PS: I really hope to never have to play such complicated rhythms in real life :-)

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-23 Thread Trevor Bača
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. What I really would like to write is c4 c c \times 2/3 { r8 c16[] } c8 and I just demonstrated a case where my proposed notation would be helpful. My point is that is it not helpful in this case

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Please don't change c[ ]! Do you really mean that you've used, say, a b[] c within your score? Currently, this is an undocumented feature, so you are use something from the darker corners of lilypond... Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-23 Thread Trevor Bača
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't change c[ ]! Do you really mean that you've used, say, a b[] c within your score? Currently, this is an undocumented feature, so you are use something from the darker corners of lilypond... Darker

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
My special example is this where such a shorthand would be quite convenient: c4 c c \times 2/3 { r8 c16 } c8 This may have nothing to do with your proposal/question but as a reader I would find your example much harder to read/sightread than c4 c c \times 2/3 { r8[ c16] } c8

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I don't think [] should even compile. This is another possibility, yes. However, `c[]' is much easier to type than `c\noBeam'. Additionally, it's not that an absurd notation IMHO. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-07 Thread Paul Scott
Werner LEMBERG wrote: My special example is this where such a shorthand would be quite convenient: c4 c c \times 2/3 { r8 c16 } c8 This may have nothing to do with your proposal/question but as a reader I would find your example much harder to read/sightread than c4 c c

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Yes. What I really would like to write is c4 c c \times 2/3 { r8 c16[] } c8 and I just demonstrated a case where my proposed notation would be helpful. My point is that is it not helpful in this case because it produces a notation which is IMO harder to read than the two

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-07 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may have nothing to do with your proposal/question but as a reader I would find your example much harder to read/sightread than c4 c c \times 2/3 { r8[ c16] } c8 or c4 c c \times 2/3 { r8[ c16 } c8] Yes.

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-06 Thread Paul Scott
Werner LEMBERG wrote: I'm not sure whether this has been discussed before: What do you think of using `c[]' as a shorthand for `\autoBeamOff c \autoBeamOn'? Currently, `c[]' produces _ | | O (a note with a beamlet to the left and

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-06 Thread Dan Eble
Werner LEMBERG wrote: I'm not sure whether this has been discussed before: What do you think of using `c[]' as a shorthand for `\autoBeamOff c \autoBeamOn'? Currently, `c[]' produces _ | | O (a note with a beamlet to the left and right), which

shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I'm not sure whether this has been discussed before: What do you think of using `c[]' as a shorthand for `\autoBeamOff c \autoBeamOn'? Currently, `c[]' produces _ | | O (a note with a beamlet to the left and right), which is neither

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson
We already have the predefined macro \noBeam. Do we really need yet another more or less obscure special case of the syntax? /Mats Werner LEMBERG wrote: I'm not sure whether this has been discussed before: What do you think of using `c[]' as a shorthand for `\autoBeamOff c \autoBeamOn'?

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
We already have the predefined macro \noBeam. Ah, I wasn't aware of that! I overlooked it in the docs. Do we really need yet another more or less obscure special case of the syntax? No. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-04 Thread Jay Anderson
Mats Bengtsson mats.bengtsson at ee.kth.se writes: We already have the predefined macro \noBeam. Do we really need yet another more or less obscure special case of the syntax? /Mats Werner LEMBERG wrote: I'm not sure whether this has been discussed before: What do you think of

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-09-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I'm not sure whether this has been discussed before: What do you think of using `c[]' as a shorthand for `\autoBeamOff c \autoBeamOn'? When I was first learning lilypond I remember trying this exact syntax to get an unbeamed note. I think it would be useful if it worked. It's a big win