Re: Two-Pass Vertical Spacing

2006-12-22 Thread Joe Neeman
On 12/22/06, William Oram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been toying with two-pass vertical spacing. Pretty neat, and exactly what I need. A couple questions: 1) Is it *supposed* to force each system onto a separate page? That seems to be what it's doing: splitting pages with multiple systems.

Re: My first define-music-function, I'm trying, need help

2006-12-22 Thread Paul Scott
Geoff Horton wrote: I was afraid of this kind of answer, if define-music-function cant do something as simple as replace one note on a \transpose without writing a whole bunch of code... I'm not going to bother with it myself. Too much complexity, I'd rather look for something that will let me

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-22 Thread Paul Scott
Frédéric Chiasson wrote: Might it be possible to use \tuplet 3:2 {x x x} for the usual operation, and if we want to have many tuplets of the same kind, to use \tuplet 3:2 { {x x x} {y y y} {z z z} } Might resolve the clarity problems. That sounds like a great idea! (or some similar syntax

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Dear Bob, you did give me some hope. I thought that not knowing a > thing about programming was my problem, maybe being too stupid or > lazy to understand what should be clear to me. But I see that you > are indeed a software developer and still can have trouble with a > programm. Friends, Mats

Two notes per syllable and two syllables per note

2006-12-22 Thread Pierre Abbat
I'm trying to write a hymn in Spanish. Sometimes there are two syllables on one note (not uncommon in hymns in Spanish, usually two vowels come together) and there are some pairs of notes which take two syllables in some verses and one in others. I tried putting numbers after the syllables, but

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-22 Thread Frédéric Chiasson
Might it be possible to use \tuplet 3:2 {x x x} for the usual operation, and if we want to have many tuplets of the same kind, to use \tuplet 3:2 { {x x x} {y y y} {z z z} } Might resolve the clarity problems. Frédéric 2006/12/22, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Two-Pass Vertical Spacing

2006-12-22 Thread William Oram
On Dec 22, 2006, at 4.00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:37:41 +0100 From: Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Two-Pass Vertical Spacing To: William Oram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/p

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-22 Thread Brett Duncan
Jonathan Henkelman wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys lilypond.org> writes: >> If we are going to worry about seperating the music from the >> typesetting, then >> it is worth observing that these two are equivalent musically. >> It doesn't > No, they aren't. The stresses fall in different places. In b

Re: problems compiling 2.10.2 and 2.10.3

2006-12-22 Thread luis jure
El Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:50:00 -0600 Quentin Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > I found this problem in my attempt to upgrade the lilypond available > with Fedora 5 to 2.10.2. It seems there was a change in the configure > script between 2.10.0 and 2.10.1. yes, i also diff'ed the files and

Re: Has anyone extended \include?

2006-12-22 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)
Thanks, Browsing the manual GEMA looks like it could work to do both substitution and conditional outputting, I'll try it. Rick Eduardo Vieira-3 wrote: > > Citando "Rick Hansen (aka RickH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> >> If you have done this can you share it or sell it to me? (please don

Re: Upgrades

2006-12-22 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The simple explanation is probably that it's much more difficult to make an upgrade package that works correctly than to make a clean installation package. What are your problems to uninstall LilyPond? /Mats Cesar Penagos wrote: Dearest Lilyponders: When I started with lilypond 2.6, I remem

Re: Fully understanding D.2.4 template

2006-12-22 Thread Mats Bengtsson
First of all, I recommend you to take a look at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2005-08/msg00130.html If you want to stick with the complicated template, the best and simplest way for you to figure out the answer yourself, if just to change the values of some property and look at t

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-22 Thread Manuel
Well, well... Dear Bob, you did give me some hope. I thought that not knowing a thing about programming was my problem, maybe being too stupid or lazy to understand what should be clear to me. But I see that you are indeed a software developer and still can have trouble with a programm. I

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-22 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Did you see my answer from November 20? /Mats Bob Kline wrote: Bob Kline wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Have you read chapter 9 as well? If not, could you read that and let me know if it helps? Once you do understand it, could you also propose an addition to the docs to clear thi

Re: How to make a grace rest?

2006-12-22 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I have already told you that this is a dead end. The "current duration" is handled when LilyPond reads through the input file, character by character. For example if you have somemusic = {c1 } firstdefinition = { a } someothermusic = {c2 } seconddefinition = { g } then \firstdefinition will alwa

Re: How to make a grace rest?

2006-12-22 Thread Trevor Bača
On 12/22/06, Rick Hansen (aka RickH) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How can I code a grace note (actually that is really a grace rest) but also make it completly invisible and take up no space, on a one-time/as-needed basis? I'd like to be able to change the "current duration" that lilypond has set

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-22 Thread Bob Kline
Bob Kline wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > >> Have you read chapter 9 as well? If not, could you read that and let me >> know if it helps? Once you do understand it, could you also propose an >> addition to the docs to clear this up? > > I will keep trying and report back results. OK, I give

Re: no cautionary clef

2006-12-22 Thread Rune Zedeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But to get no cautionary key signature at the end of a line (when the key signature changes on the following line), I wasn't able to figure out how to accomplish that at the point (some time ago) when I would have preferred to do without the cautionary key-change indicat

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-22 Thread Jonathan Henkelman
Han-Wen Nienhuys lilypond.org> writes: > > Jonathan Henkelman escreveu: > > --- Brett Duncan wrote: > > > >>> \tuplet 3:2 {c4 c8 c c4} > >>> > >>> should be printed as > >>> > >>> |- 3 | > >>> __ > >>> | | | | > >>> | | | | > >>> X X X X > >>> > >>> or as > >>> >

Re: Has anyone extended \include?

2006-12-22 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
"Rick Hansen (aka RickH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anyone on this list extended the \include lilypond command to also do > simple token replacement as it is "including" the text? IOW like this: > > \include "myFile.ly" @myToken1=a; @myToken2=25; @myToken3="replace with > this" > > Whereb

Re: no cautionary clef

2006-12-22 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... But to get no cautionary key signature at the end of a line (when the key signature changes on the following line), I wasn't able to figure out how to accomplish that at the point (some time ago) when I would have preferred to do without the cautionary key-change i

Re: Two-Pass Vertical Spacing

2006-12-22 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
William Oram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've been toying with two-pass vertical spacing. Pretty neat, and > exactly what I need. A couple questions: > > 1) Is it *supposed* to force each system onto a separate page? No. The purpose of two pass spacing is to have the same page breaks, but with

Fully understanding D.2.4 template

2006-12-22 Thread Tomas Valusek
Hello, I'm a piano teacher, so I'd like to understand what's the meaning of all the statements used in layout block of D.2.4 template. I'm going to include it below, my questions are marked there. \version "2.9.13" upper = \relative c'' { \clef treble \key c \major

Re: My first define-music-function, I'm trying, need help

2006-12-22 Thread Geoff Horton
I was afraid of this kind of answer, if define-music-function cant do something as simple as replace one note on a \transpose without writing a whole bunch of code... I'm not going to bother with it myself. Too much complexity, I'd rather look for something that will let me stay on a user-level,

Tim Reeves is out of the office.

2006-12-22 Thread Tim Reeves
I will be out of the office starting 12/22/2006 and will not return until 12/27/2006. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Has anyone extended \include?

2006-12-22 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)
Eduardo Vieira-3 wrote: > > Citando "Rick Hansen (aka RickH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> >> If you have done this can you share it or sell it to me? (please dont >> suggest m4, I gave up on that monster) >> >> Thanks >> > > Hi, Rick! Yes, this preprocessor looks scary, as well as some adva

Re: Has anyone extended \include?

2006-12-22 Thread Eduardo Vieira
Citando "Rick Hansen (aka RickH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > If you have done this can you share it or sell it to me? (please dont > suggest m4, I gave up on that monster) > > Thanks > Hi, Rick! Yes, this preprocessor looks scary, as well as some advanced programming with Scheme. But once I got

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Jonathan Henkelman escreveu: > --- Brett Duncan wrote: > >>> \tuplet 3:2 {c4 c8 c c4} >>> >>> should be printed as >>> >>> |- 3 | >>> __ >>> | | | | >>> | | | | >>> X X X X >>> >>> or as >>> >>> |- 3 -| |- 3 -| >>> >>> | |\ |\ | >>> | | | | >>> X X X

How to make a grace rest?

2006-12-22 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)
How can I code a grace note (actually that is really a grace rest) but also make it completly invisible and take up no space, on a one-time/as-needed basis? I'd like to be able to change the "current duration" that lilypond has set without actually having to introduce any music to the score tha

Re: My first define-music-function, I'm trying, need help

2006-12-22 Thread Sébastien Gross
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 09:11:04AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Lilypond desperately needs some king of built-in text pre-process (that > installs with lilypond) to take care of these things, instead of everybody > having to constantly re-write the core lilypond code to do such simple > things

Re: My first define-music-function, I'm trying, need help

2006-12-22 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)
seb-g wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:48:24PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >> >> The simple substitution example below should be pretty easy, but I'm "in >> a >> pickle", can someone show me how to replace the note name in the >> transpose >> statement with the note specified on the

Has anyone extended \include?

2006-12-22 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)
Has anyone on this list extended the \include lilypond command to also do simple token replacement as it is "including" the text? IOW like this: \include "myFile.ly" @myToken1=a; @myToken2=25; @myToken3="replace with this" Whereby @myToken1, 2 and 3 above will be whole word searched and replace

Re: My first define-music-function, I'm trying, need help

2006-12-22 Thread Sébastien Gross
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:48:24PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The simple substitution example below should be pretty easy, but I'm "in a > pickle", can someone show me how to replace the note name in the transpose > statement with the note specified on the function call (parameter called

Two-Pass Vertical Spacing

2006-12-22 Thread William Oram
I've been toying with two-pass vertical spacing. Pretty neat, and exactly what I need. A couple questions: 1) Is it *supposed* to force each system onto a separate page? That seems to be what it's doing: splitting pages with multiple systems. I'd be OK with this, aside from the smaller systems fil

Re: My first define-music-function, I'm trying, need help

2006-12-22 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)
Anybody? Rick Hansen (aka RickH) wrote: > > The simple substitution example below should be pretty easy, but I'm "in a > pickle", can someone show me how to replace the note name in the transpose > statement with the note specified on the function call (parameter called > "root")? > > But it

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-22 Thread Jonathan Henkelman
--- Brett Duncan wrote: > > \tuplet 3:2 {c4 c8 c c4} > > > > should be printed as > > > > |- 3 | > > __ > > | | | | > > | | | | > > X X X X > > > > or as > > > > |- 3 -| |- 3 -| > > > > | |\ |\ | > > | | | | > > X X X X If we are going to worry ab

Re: date insertion

2006-12-22 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)
Matevž Jekovec-2 wrote: > > Is there a predefined constant in Lily which shows the current date > and/or system time. > > This would be useful for the footer tag for example, when was the > document generated - this would mark the version of the score then, if > you made any newer versions of

Upgrades

2006-12-22 Thread Cesar Penagos
Dearest Lilyponders: When I started with lilypond 2.6, I remember, there are two options in the downloads page; 1. Install option. 2. Upgrade option. I´m a Windows XP user, and is very hard to uninstall lilypond for the next version. I like very much the experimental versions. May be I´m do

Re: Getting involved

2006-12-22 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Till Rettig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This sounds like a good start. Does the translation so far only > concern the webpage, or is there also some (of course now older) > documentation translated? Only a part of the website. That part needs to be checked using make check-translation LANG

Re: Getting involved

2006-12-22 Thread Till Rettig
This sounds like a good start. Does the translation so far only concern the webpage, or is there also some (of course now older) documentation translated? Well I will try to sort out my way on this... Greetings Till Till Rettig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Till, a while ago I thought

Re: date insertion

2006-12-22 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello. > Is there a predefined constant in Lily which shows the current date > and/or system time. > today = #(strftime "%d-%m-%Y" (localtime (current-time))) Best, Gilles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/ma

date insertion

2006-12-22 Thread Matevž Jekovec
Is there a predefined constant in Lily which shows the current date and/or system time. This would be useful for the footer tag for example, when was the document generated - this would mark the version of the score then, if you made any newer versions of your document afterwards. Regards. - Mat

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: > Since the duration would be the second of three arguments, it could not be > optional, but that's not a problem. > > I think (?) this would have the side effect that \tuplet 3:2 2. would > be the same as \tuplet 6:4 2. or \tuplet 9:6 2., which would mean > that it wo

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-22 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 10:58, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > I agree that the scores that take most time to type in are those that have > repeated rhythms like > \times 2/3 {c c c } c4 \times 2/3 {c c c } c4 > or > c8 c16 c c4 c8 c16 c c4 > especially if these are combined with slurs. It is certain