Re: Importing ly files into a master file

2007-11-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Goto www.lilypond.org - Documentation - Doc for your version of LilyPond - User manual - LilyPond index and look for include. /Mats Charles Gran wrote: I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that you can include lily files in other lily files. What I am hoping to do is divide a chorale

Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11

2007-11-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Op woensdag 7 november 2007, schreef Kieren MacMillan: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(semi-fixed-space . 1.2) Just a question to improve my Lily understanding: Can this also be written as: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note

Re: GDP: renaming Program {usage, reference}

2007-11-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: The strong editorial decision from a few months ago is this: Notation Reference: defines the lilypond input syntax. I think it describes a lot more than just the syntax. Application Usage: how to compile the syntax, how to convert to/from the syntax (including old

Re: problem with neo-mensural style

2007-11-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I would recommend you to first try yourself to reduce it to a small example that illustrates the same problem. You might even find the solution yourself during that process. /Mats vwf wrote: Hello, I have a problem with a kind of meo-mensural style. The source used to work with an old

Re: GDP: renaming Program {usage, reference}

2007-11-08 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Graham Percival wrote: The strong editorial decision from a few months ago is this: Notation Reference: defines the lilypond input syntax. I think it describes a lot more than just the syntax. Sorry, I was misusing a word again -- I didn't mean syntax. I should

Re: Importing ly files into a master file

2007-11-08 Thread Carl Sorensen
Charles Gran sonance at campdeadly.com writes: What I am hoping to do is divide a chorale piece into four files one for each part, so that when I am working on a part I can run that part only. I'm just trying to speed up the run process. You can find an excellent example of separating

GDP predefined commands (was: text first draft)

2007-11-08 Thread Graham Percival
Trevor Daniels wrote: Actually, \fatText _is_ simply an arcane override -- but one which the developers thought was so common that they included a predefined variable. The difference exactly. That's why I think this predefined variable should be in the main text. No, absolutely

problem with neo-mensural style

2007-11-08 Thread vwf
Hello, I have a problem with a kind of meo-mensural style. The source used to work with an old version of lilypond. I'm in the process of converting it for LilyPond 2.10.25, but I cannot get it right: the first two notes of the melody appear with modern noteheads, and from the third one onwards

GDP: LM Specification (was RE: GDP: renaming Program {usage, reference})

2007-11-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Graham Percival wrote: The strong editorial decision from a few months ago is this: Notation Reference: defines the lilypond input syntax. I think it describes a lot more than just the syntax. /Mats I do too. I wonder if it might be useful to discuss and

RE: educational first draft

2007-11-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote 07 November 2007 16:29 Ok, I was convinced that some reorg was better. Educational - Editorial annotations Note heads - 1.1 Pitches 1.3.3 Analysis brackets - Editorial Take a look at it and let me know what you think. Docs in the usual GDP place. Much, much

Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11

2007-11-08 Thread Carl Sorensen
Mats Bengtsson mats.bengtsson at ee.kth.se writes: Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Op woensdag 7 november 2007, schreef Kieren MacMillan: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(semi-fixed-space . 1.2) \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note #'semi-fixed-space = 1.2 It's

Re: GDP predefined commands

2007-11-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Isn't the main points of this discussion that: - Predefined commands like \fatText should be described in the NR. Even if the implementation of it might change over the years, the semantics will remain the same. - Somewhere in the NR, it should be described how an advanced user can find the

Re: GDP: renaming Program {usage, reference}

2007-11-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: Internals Reference: defines the under the hood lilypond stuff. Which doesn't really make sense, since you have to look under the hood every time you want to make a property setting. Err, remember that the Program Reference is now the IR. The NR will describe how

RE: GDP predefined commands (was: text first draft)

2007-11-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote on 08 November 2007 12:26 Trevor Daniels wrote: Actually, \fatText _is_ simply an arcane override -- but one which the developers thought was so common that they included a predefined variable. The difference exactly. That's why I think this

Re: GDP predefined commands

2007-11-08 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Isn't the main points of this discussion that: - Predefined commands like \fatText should be described in the NR. Even if the implementation of it might change over the years, the semantics will remain the same. Yes. \fatText: pushes the next note to the right to allow

Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11

2007-11-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Sorry, I was just confused when I wrote my previous answer. Also, I hadn't actually tried any example in LilyPond. If you do, you will soon realize that: - None of the commands given below do anything useful, since you have to replace BarLine by Score.BarLine. - The construct \override

Re: GDP predefined commands

2007-11-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: Yes, with one quirk: the LM/NR division. The current changing defaults doesn't make anybody happy. It's too verbose for programmers (or people who are already familiar with it, but can't remember certain details), but much too short for first-time readers. So we're

Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11

2007-11-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, I think that Kieren had probably assumed I would put it in \layout{} Yes -- your last few posts implied that you put most tweaks there... I suppose that it would work with just BarLine if it were placed inside the \layout block after \context { \Score ... Correct! Best regards,

Re: GDP predefined commands

2007-11-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: True. This problem is exacerbated by the fact that I have no clue how the IR is constructed -- if I _did_ understand it, we could probably make a few changes that would make the whole thing considerably easier to read. However, that's one thing that I'm never going

Re: GDP predefined commands

2007-11-08 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Graham Percival wrote: NR is a reference to look stuff up; LM is for learning the material in the first place. Agreed! However, what's special with LilyPond is that it's three levels, not two. Often for me, the IR is the real reference to look stuff up. The division

Re: GDP predefined commands

2007-11-08 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Graham Percival wrote: However, that's one thing that I'm never going to tackle. If anybody wants to attempt it, great! But the IR is officially out of bounds of GDP. Perhaps you can just send out a wish list, hoping that some Scheme hacker finds it an interesting

Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11

2007-11-08 Thread Monk Panteleimon
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Sorry, I was just confused when I wrote my previous answer. Also, I hadn't actually tried any example in LilyPond. If you do, you will soon realize that: - None of the commands given below do anything useful, since you have to replace BarLine by Score.BarLine.

Re: Simple? Stretch a couple of measures.

2007-11-08 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op donderdag 8 november 2007, schreef Jeff Elliott: ragged-last-bottom = ##t Would that make a difference? I think so, because Lilypond will then probably create more systems and therefore make another arrangement of measures. Met vriendelijke groet, Wilbert Berendsen --

Re: GDP: NR Specification

2007-11-08 Thread Graham Percival
Trevor Daniels wrote: I do too. I wonder if it might be useful to discuss and find a consensus on what the purpose of the NR is in rather more detail? Here's a strawman specification to knock about if people think a specification might be useful to guide documentation writers in the future.

Re: piano staff dynamics

2007-11-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, Michael: I am a little confused on how to implement. See example, below. The important thing to observe is that the dynamics that should be in both Staff contexts is only included in the upper Staff in the ENGRAVING BLOCK (i.e., the \score block *without* a \midi block), whereas

piano staff dynamics

2007-11-08 Thread Michael Listrom
Here is a reply from Kieren. I have some more questions If you want dynamics that apply to both, then you could use three identifiers: dynamicsRH = { ... } dynamicsBH = { ... } dynamicsLH = { ... } Then, in the .ly file, 1. In the \score (ENGRAVING) block, include the \dynamicsRH and