Re: OOoLilypond instilation problems and coding help

2008-04-08 Thread Michael Watts
Hi Levi, The example drum notation you give shows how to use the short form of polyphonic notation when entering percussion, with the DrumVoices "instantiated by hand first". You might find verbose polyphonic notation easier to use; both forms are given here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/D

Re: vertical text

2008-04-08 Thread Michael Watts
Cool! I'll be using that. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

OOoLilypond instilation problems and coding help

2008-04-08 Thread Levi Hendricks
I am running windows XP (with sp2) and open office v 2.0.2 . I followed the instructions on using lilypad with open office. I have downloaded (and written in) the lilypond script as well as the open office macro, i installed the macro as said in the instructions, but when i press alt m an error

Re: Colored hairpins?

2008-04-08 Thread Tim Reeves
Well, it helps some, but why do I get an error when I try the same thing with hairpins? error: syntax error, unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER r4 d4 \p d d | \repeat "unfold" 4 {d1~} | d1 \once \override Hairpin #'color = #blue \cr | d1 | d1 \f (using 2.11.43 on Windows XP) and wh

Re: Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:21:36 +0200 Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2) it would of course be nice to automate this. At the moment, I > > can't see why this would take more than five hours. Maybe 15 > > hours if the person had never tou

Re: Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Quoting Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:42:15 +0200 Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:14:42 -0400 > Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The grumpy doc writer has said many times

Re: Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:42:15 +0200 Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:14:42 -0400 > > Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> The grumpy doc writer has said many times that he knows nothing > >> about voca

Re: Fwd: convert text encodings (was: Old LilyPond versions)

2008-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 22:14:41 +0200 fi visu__lle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2008-04-08 um 20:28 schrieb Graham Percival: > > You're talking about the old LaTeX accents -> utf-8 ? > > > > Manual conversion is necessary with current convert-ly. I can > > think of three ways to automate it.

Re: Fwd: convert text encodings (was: Old LilyPond versions)

2008-04-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Please note that convert-ly automatically will convert latin1 to UTF-8 if the input file is older than version 2.5.13. It will not handle any embedded TeX commands, but my guess is that in many of the cases, the embedded TeX commands will have to be replaced by some appropriate \markup command or

Fwd: convert text encodings (was: Old LilyPond versions)

2008-04-08 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2008-04-08 um 20:28 schrieb Graham Percival: You're talking about the old LaTeX accents -> utf-8 ? Manual conversion is necessary with current convert-ly. I can think of three ways to automate it. They're all kind-of hackish, but they'd work in theory. It just needs somebody to translate t

Re: Metronome marks

2008-04-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Mattias It's possible (most things are in LilyPond) but it's not easy (at least I don't know an easy way). Essentially you have to create a tiny score without a staff, etc. Have a look at http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=204 This should give you some clues, or maybe easier, you can sim

Re: Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Quoting Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:14:42 -0400 Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The grumpy doc writer has said many times that he knows nothing about vocal music. None of the suggestions in 5.1 is going to change the fact that manual conversion is neces

Re: Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:14:42 -0400 Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The grumpy doc writer has said many times that he knows nothing about > vocal music. None of the suggestions in 5.1 is going to change the > fact that manual conversion is necessary for all vocal music > transcribed befo

Re: Colored hairpins?

2008-04-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Tim, Actually I need colored dynamics, including hairpins, but I thought "colored hairpins" sounds like something you find at a beauty salon and not in software! I was trying to find in the user manual (NR) a color property for dynamics (\f, \cr, \cresc, etc.) but there doesn't seem to be

Re: Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 20:15:50 +0200 Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le 8 avr. 08 __ 19:01, Graham Percival a __crit : > > > > Some commitments are more important than others -- if I > > had a girlfriend, I'd spend way less time on lilypond. If I had a > > baby or young child, I'd probab

Re: Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 8 avr. 08 à 19:01, Graham Percival a écrit : Some commitments are more important than others -- if I had a girlfriend, I'd spend way less time on lilypond. If I had a baby or young child, I'd probably stop contributing entirely. ouch, that hurts. Note to myself: spend more time with my wif

Colored hairpins?

2008-04-08 Thread Tim Reeves
Actually I need colored dynamics, including hairpins, but I thought "colored hairpins" sounds like something you find at a beauty salon and not in software! I was trying to find in the user manual (NR) a color property for dynamics (\f, \cr, \cresc, etc.) but there doesn't seem to be any. I can

Re: Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Graham" == Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Graham> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:37:16 +0200 Graham> "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thank you very much for these comments. I do think we need to talk >> more about this issue. Graham> Oh, has it b

Metronome marks

2008-04-08 Thread Matthias Loitsch
Hi! I'm new to this list, and quite new to lilypond too. I'm trying to change the tempo in a song, and I can't find how to do so... What I want to do, is not a normal metronome tempo change, but I want a triplet to become a quarter note. I found how to set the tempo with a metronome marking (\

Re: minimumVerticalExtent & minimum-Y-extent

2008-04-08 Thread Frédéric Moinard
Hi, Mats Bengtsson a écrit : Frédéric Moinard wrote: Hi, I'm beginning with 2.10: 3 voices + verses, and I'd like to keep the default distance between music and verse 1 but a shorter vertical spacing between the next lines of lyrics. (...) That's correct. This syntax was removed in versi

Re: Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:37:16 +0200 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you very much for these comments. I do think we need to talk > more about this issue. Oh, has it been six months already? ... yeah, I guess it has. No, we most certainly do *not* need to bloody talk about

Fw: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Kurt What's your view on this? Trevor - Original Message - From: "Mats Bengtsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments Mensurstriche is a way to include (or a substitute for) "bar lines

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 65, Issue 34

2008-04-08 Thread Till Rettig
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Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Mensurstriche is a way to include (or a substitute for) "bar lines" for sources that didn't contain them, but without splitting the notes and/or rests that are "syncopated" over the bar lines the editor wants. By the way, is "mensurstriche" the established English term? I have no idea, bu

Re: Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/8 Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In my case, it's usually because convert-ly isn't converting something > important. Thank you very much for these comments. I do think we need to talk more about this issue. In my case, I've been working for almost three years on a same project, alw

Re: cannot find lilypond icon on my desktop after installation (window xp)

2008-04-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Tim Litwiller wrote: Lilypond by it's self is a command line program that processes an input file and outputs a "engraving". With lilypondtool that is a pdf, other options let it also output midi files and image files. Still, a normal installation on Windows leaves an icon on the desktop.

Re: cannot find lilypond icon on my desktop after installation (window xp)

2008-04-08 Thread Tim Litwiller
Are you thinking that lilypond is a program you open and interactively work with? If that is what you want you will want to download from here. http://valentin.villenave.info/spip.php?article44 It will give you an editor with an output viewer and a music player linked to lilypond that all work

Re: Fonts in LilyPond document

2008-04-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Bernard, to change the fonts (amost all... =-O : measure numbers, lyrics, titles) in my .ly documents. What is the most simple maneer to do? See the bottom of the page HTH! Kieren. ___

Re: vertical text

2008-04-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Luis, hello list, i'd like to add vertical text after the final bar line, like in the image attached. i guess i can do that using postscript code, but i'd like to know if there is a property in LP to control that. i haven't been able to find one in the manual so far. The attached snippet wo

Re: Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
This is certainly a very important issue. However, for the changes between 2.10 and 2.11 (and the coming 2.12), very few affect the actual syntax and convert-ly should handle them very well. Compared to some earlier version upgrades, you should expect a very smooth procedure. The main exception

Re: braces in the lyrics

2008-04-08 Thread Tim Litwiller
sorry for replying to myself - I don't see that the frist attempt reached the list. Timothy C Litwiller wrote: A friend of mine composed a song and we have some similar layouts in our Church songbooks look like this attached braces.jpg You sing to the start of the chorus on the first line of

cannot find lilypond icon on my desktop after installation (window xp)

2008-04-08 Thread ming tsang
I download and installed lilypond_3.10.33-1.mingw.exe I did not see lilypond icon. I tried to execute c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond-windows.exe, but no lilypond screen displayed. Is this the right program to execute? ___ lilypond-use

Old LilyPond versions

2008-04-08 Thread Laura Conrad
In The LilyPond Report #4, Valentin Villenave writes: So, what can make you use an old LilyPond version? Is LilyPond "moving too fast", as suggested on the Download page? (Honestly, I've always seen that as a purely rhetorical question.) Is it because of your Linux distribution? Is it

Fonts in LilyPond document

2008-04-08 Thread Bernard Meylan
Hi, I search to change the fonts (amost all... =-O : measure numbers, lyrics, titles) in my .ly documents. What is the most simple maneer to do? Bernard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lil

vertical text

2008-04-08 Thread luis jure
hello list, i'd like to add vertical text after the final bar line, like in the image attached. i guess i can do that using postscript code, but i'd like to know if there is a property in LP to control that. i haven't been able to find one in the manual so far. best, lj<>

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Karl Hammar wrote Trevor Daniels wrote Karl Hammar wrote > Till: >> 8.5 Transcription of ancient music > > Why not call it "Editing" or "Making an edition", but transcription is > also fine. I think we'll stick with "Transcription" - it seems closer to the action being performed by those workin

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-08 Thread Karl Hammar
> Karl Hammar wrote > > Till: > >> 8.5 Transcription of ancient music > > > > Why not call it "Editing" or "Making an edition", but transcription is > > also fine. > > I think we'll stick with "Transcription" - it seems closer to the action > being performed by those working with ancient music,

Re: \parenthesize ??

2008-04-08 Thread luis jure
El Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:13:50 +0200 Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Waiting for 2.11.44, you can still use \parenthesize the same way as > in earlier versions, namely for notes within a chord: yes, this works! thank you, and waiting for 2.11.44... ___

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Karl Hammar wrote Till: 8.5 Transcription of ancient music Why not call it "Editing" or "Making an edition", but transcription is also fine. I think we'll stick with "Transcription" - it seems closer to the action being performed by those working with ancient music, who usually want to pres

Re: GDP: Reorganisation of NR 2 - Final call for comments

2008-04-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Karl Hammar wrote: Trevor: Would "Ancient and modern from one source" cover it. I can't think of anything shorter. Anyone else any better suggestions? Why not "Best practices" or the like. I was trying to capture the essence of the subject matter, which is printing both ancient and mode

Re: The LilyPond Report: a new weekly opinion column about Lily's world

2008-04-08 Thread Karl Hammar
Villenave: > About production vs unstability: thanks a lot for these explanations. > I will quote you (if you don't mind) on next week's issue, as a > follow-up to this week's article. ... I don't mind. Regards, /Karl ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: lilypond-book not honoring --psfonts?

2008-04-08 Thread Karl Hammar
Han-Wen: > The recommended way to do the fonts is to have them included in > separate .eps files. If file size is a concern, you can use > -dgs-load-fonts. The result will be that you have to go through a PS > -> PDF step before sending to the printer, though. I have forgot the exact problems, bu

Re: The LilyPond Report: a new weekly opinion column about Lily's world

2008-04-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/7 Karl Hammar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hmm, I don't see them as unusual, I see it more like that I bend > lilypond-book to the way I am used to when developing program and using > latex. Yes, I meant "unusual to me" :) I should have said "ambitious" rather than "unusual". If I understand

Re: \parenthesize ??

2008-04-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Waiting for 2.11.44, you can still use \parenthesize the same way as in earlier versions, namely for notes within a chord: c2 <\parenthesize d> c2 <\parenthesize c \parenthesize e \parenthesize g> /Mats Graham Percival wrote: It only works on 2.11.44 and higher (not released). You got ca

Re: minimumVerticalExtent & minimum-Y-extent

2008-04-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Frédéric Moinard wrote: Hi, I'm beginning with 2.10: 3 voices + verses, and I'd like to keep the default distance between music and verse 1 but a shorter vertical spacing between the next lines of lyrics. I found that \layout { \context { \Lyrics minimumVerticalExtent = #'(0 . 0

Re: The LilyPond Report: a new weekly opinion column about Lily's world

2008-04-08 Thread Frédéric Moinard
Valentin Villenave a écrit : Hi everybody, (...) Its sole purpose is to be pleasant to read, entertaining -- and to make LilyPond look sexy. It's primarily intended for newbies, and it works !! ;) -- Regards, Frédéric Moinard -- ps: and nice, just after reading gmane.comp.web.spip.user