Lilypond on the web

2013-11-10 Thread Helge Kruse
Hello I just wanted to download the beta release of Lilypond. But I was lazy and just entered "Lilypond" in my Chrome web browser. Interestingly the second hit was http://lilypond.org/web/ what is a bit dated as it describes 2.12.3. Shall this stay on the server? Regards Helge

Re: Lilypond on the web

2013-11-10 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/11/10 Helge Kruse > Hello > > I just wanted to download the beta release of Lilypond. But I was lazy and > just entered "Lilypond" in my Chrome web browser. Interestingly the second > hit was http://lilypond.org/web/ what is a bit dated as it describes > 2.12.3. Shall this stay on the server

Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing

2013-11-10 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 11/10/2013 01:39 AM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote: And Peter, if I may bother you a bit more, could you also have a look on this message I posted some days ago if you have the time? http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bar-numbers-position-td153274.html It also concerns notation standards, spec

Re: \on-the-fly #first-page not working in bookTitleMarkup ?

2013-11-10 Thread Jakub Pavlík
So this time a "less minimal" example with a book and two bookparts. The book title, which I would love to have on the first page, will never get engraved. In the meantime I experimented a bit more and found out that \on-the-fly #first-page works very well in the page headers/footers, but doesn't

Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing

2013-11-10 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Hi David, I am sorry if I expressed myself badly, I never wanted to say that "you are proposing to judge things solely by the eye, while I propose to only use strict rules". What I wrote before was just a comment that came to my head while reading your message; I think I would have better expresse

Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing

2013-11-10 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Thanks a lot Peter, I will keep an eye on it. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Beam-positions-and-time-signature-spacing-tp153538p153630.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-us

Re: \on-the-fly #first-page not working in bookTitleMarkup ?

2013-11-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jakub, > The book title, which I would love to have on the first page, will never get > engraved. Don’t forget to put print-all-headers = ##t in your \paper block! Hope this helps, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org ht

Re: Bar numbers position

2013-11-10 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Here is a short example of LilyPond's default bar numbers (left) and my personal tweaks (right). Now compare LilyPond's default output of bar numbers with these examples from "our own" Essay ( http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Docu

Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing

2013-11-10 Thread David Kastrup
Gilberto Agostinho writes: > Hi David, > > I am sorry if I expressed myself badly, I never wanted to say that "you are > proposing to judge things solely by the eye, while I propose to only use > strict rules". What I wrote before was just a comment that came to my head > while reading your messa

Re: Using the 'avoid-slur property (redux)

2013-11-10 Thread MING TSANG
\version "2.17.95" \relative c { \override Slur.outside-staff-priority = #0 f16\mf( f a'8\p a8) } I play with #555.  I change it to #0 (or #5) and it works. Question:  what is the difference of # number #555 and #0 (or #5)? Emmanuel, Ming    2. RE:Using the '

Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing

2013-11-10 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
David Kastrup wrote > If the very best authority states that A and V should be > kerned by -0.15 em spaces and this looks bad If it looks bad according to whom? There are tons of people on this list, each one possibly having his own view of what a pretty score consists of. David Kastrup wrote >

Re: Using the 'avoid-slur property (redux)

2013-11-10 Thread David Nalesnik
Ming, On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:46 AM, MING TSANG wrote: > \version "2.17.95" > \relative c { > \override Slur.outside-staff-priority = #0 > f16\mf( f a'8\p a8) > } > > I play with #555. I change it to #0 (or #5) and it works. > Question: what is the difference of # number #555 and #0 (or

still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

2013-11-10 Thread Karol Majewski
It seems that there is no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout. When typing solo piano piece, there is no problem. The following does the job: \score { \new PianoStaff \with { \remove "Keep_alive_together_engraver" } << \new Staff = "right" \right \new Staff = "left" \l

Re: Using the 'avoid-slur property (redux)

2013-11-10 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Ming, On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 7:31 AM, MING TSANG wrote: > David, > Please take a look at the .png screen capture and the .ly file. The "mf" > was place inside and outside the slur. > > \version "2.17.95" > \markup "with outside-staff-priority = #500." > \relative c { > \overrid

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

2013-11-10 Thread Eluze
karol wrote > The question is: what if three-staff piano is part of orchestra? In > orchestral score, when piano is "tacet", the whole PianoStaff should be > removed from the page. > > Adding \RemoveEmptyStaves to every Staff is a bad idea, because when the > "right" staff has some nmusic and the

lilypond web is down???

2013-11-10 Thread Marcos Press
Hi, is lilypond web down? I make a test whit www.isup.me and gives me that lilypond is down. Any hint? Do I miss a down news post? Thanks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

2013-11-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, > I think you can group or nest these contexts, eg. > > \new StaffGroup \with { } << >\new PianoStaff << > \new Staff = "A" \A > \new Staff = "B" \B >>> >\new Staff = "C" \C \with { } >>> > > and then (with \removeEmpty... specified) will always keep together but >

Re: lilypond web is down???

2013-11-10 Thread Federico Bruni
Il dom, nov 10, 2013 at 4:18 , Marcos Press ha scritto: Hi, is lilypond web down? I make a test whit www.isup.me and gives me that lilypond is down. Any hint? Do I miss a down news post? confirmed it happens sometimes, probably they are doing maintenance..it's sunday :-) try again later __

Re: lilypond web is down???

2013-11-10 Thread Marcos Press
Ok! Thanks! 2013/11/10 Federico Bruni > Il dom, nov 10, 2013 at 4:18 , Marcos Press ha > scritto: > > Hi, is lilypond web down? > > I make a test whit www.isup.me and gives me that lilypond is down. > > Any hint? Do I miss a down news post? > > > confirmed > it happens sometimes, probably they

Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing

2013-11-10 Thread Patrick or Cynthia Karl
> Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 16:29:26 -0800 (PST) > From: Gilberto Agostinho > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing > Message-ID: <1384043366945-153614.p...@n5.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi David, > ... > I d

Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing

2013-11-10 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Patrick or Cynthia Karl-2 wrote >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 16:29:26 -0800 (PST) >> From: Gilberto Agostinho < > gilbertohasnofb@ > > >> To: > lilypond-user@ >> Subject: Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing >> Message-ID: < > 1384043366945-153614.post@.nabble >> >> Conten

Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing

2013-11-10 Thread David Kastrup
Gilberto Agostinho writes: > Sorry for the confusion, I am used to simply go to nabble.com to post, > answer or simply check what is going on with LilyPond, and I realize > now that by merely clicking "reply" to someone's message is not enough > to find out where the reply was aimed (there are no

Re: Beam positions and time signature spacing

2013-11-10 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
dak wrote > So obviously one quotes _only_ what is immediately relevant to the reply. Sorry, I will be more careful from now on. Thanks for pointing it out. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Beam-positions-and-time-signature-spacing-tp153538p153662.html Se

Re: Bar numbers position

2013-11-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/2 Gilberto Agostinho : > Hello all, > > Today, while searching for scores at Mutopia, I came across this one > produced in LilyPond 2.9.9: > > http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/BachJS/BWV849/bwv849b/bwv849b-a4.pdf > http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/BachJS/BWV849/bwv849b/bwv849b.ly > > What

Automated custom clef settings for custom staves

2013-11-10 Thread Paul Morris
Hi everyone, Say you have a custom staff that needs custom settings for each of the different clefs, namely "middleCPosition" to put the notes on the right lines and spaces, and "clefPosition" to put the clef in the right vertical position. You can put these settings into a variable and use th

Re: Automated custom clef settings for custom staves

2013-11-10 Thread Paul Morris
Below is my attempt to use a custom engraver to set custom clef settings but only when the clefs appear in a particular custom staff context. It doesn't quite work since the setting changes take effect too late. The first note after the new clef is placed on the staff before the change to "m

Re: Automated custom clef settings for custom staves

2013-11-10 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Morris writes: > Ideally the way to handle this *very* *very* marginal issue, would be > to have the default settings for middleCPosition and clefPosition for > each kind of clef, loaded at the staff level for each staff (as staff > context properties?) where the user could override them for

Re: Automated custom clef settings for custom staves

2013-11-10 Thread Paul Morris
dak wrote > Paul Morris < > paul@ > > writes: > >> Ideally the way to handle this *very* *very* marginal issue, would be >> to have the default settings for middleCPosition and clefPosition for >> each kind of clef, loaded at the staff level for each staff (as staff >> context properties?) where

Re: Automated custom clef settings for custom staves

2013-11-10 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Morris writes: > Currently you have to make changes in the music (the content) for > custom clefs to work, whether that's defining a new clef with a > non-standard name, A definition of a new clef will usually occur outside of the music. > or manually setting the middleCPosition and clefPo

Re: Bar numbers position

2013-11-10 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Hi Janek, Janek Warchoł wrote > ...i believe the barnumbers in the engraved examples interfere with > clefs. I've seen some scores where similarly placed barnumbers looked > like clef transposition (especially when the first bar in a system was > 8th or 15th, and the number was placed right abo

Re: Automated custom clef settings for custom staves

2013-11-10 Thread Paul Morris
David Kastrup wrote > I don't understand the problem. I have no clue what you are trying to > achieve and why. You want some clefs to print different clefs than > asked for when in a different staff. Why? Ok, sounds like my examples were too tiny to make things clear. The custom staves I'm wor

Re: \on-the-fly #first-page not working in bookTitleMarkup ?

2013-11-10 Thread Eluze
Jakub Pavlík wrote > So this time a "less minimal" example with a book and two bookparts. > The book title, which I would love to have on the first page, will never > get engraved. a minimal example is not defined by its length but by its accurateness in showing the problematic point(s). what hap

Re: What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?

2013-11-10 Thread Michael Rivers
Adding the additional space via markup worked. Is this an issue I should create a bug tracker for? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/What-s-the-best-way-to-fix-these-beams-and-staff-spacing-tp153566p153678.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabb

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

2013-11-10 Thread Karol Majewski
Thanks Eluze! So this is how three-staff piano layout should look like: \score { \new StaffGroup \with { systemStartDelimiter = #'SystemStartBrace \override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-staff-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 9) (minimum-distance . 7) (padding . 1) (s

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

2013-11-10 Thread Eluze
karol wrote > So this is how three-staff piano layout should look like: > > [...] yes - but please if you go public (eg. LSR) - and I hope you will - don't call the variables "left" or "right"; leftHand and rightHand seems less confusable within LilyPond thanks Eluze -- View this message in

glissando between notes within a semitone and Staff/TabStaff problems

2013-11-10 Thread Federico Bruni
This is a follow up to this thread: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-05/msg00245.html I've just come across the same problem and I have a couple of questions: 1. lilypond, by default, doesn't show the glissando line between two noteheads positioned on the same staff line, beca

Preventing tempo marks stacking (redux)

2013-11-10 Thread Daniel Rosen
Consider the following example: \version "2.17.95" { \compressFullBarRests \tempo "Allegro moderato" 4 = 104 R1*20 \tempo "Molto meno mosso" 4 = 72 R1*20 \tempo "Tempo primo" R1 } I'd like the MultiMeasureRests to expand automatically so that the MetronomeMarks don't get stacked on

Re: alternatives at beginning or middle

2013-11-10 Thread Joel C. Salomon
Almost eight years ago, on 11/30/2005, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Quoting Stuart Lowe : >> Lilypond seems to handle alternative endings on repeated parts very >> well. What about alternative beginnings, or even an >> alternative somewhere in the middle? >> >> Can someone tell me how I would do this?

Re: Preventing tempo marks stacking (redux)

2013-11-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Daniel, Try this: \version "2.17.29" \layout { \context { \Score \override Clef.break-align-anchor-alignment = #RIGHT \override MetronomeMark.extra-spacing-width = #'(-0.5 . 0.5) \override MetronomeMark.Y-offset = #3.0 \override MetronomeMark.outside-staff-padding = #0.8

RE: Preventing tempo marks stacking (redux)

2013-11-10 Thread Daniel Rosen
> -Original Message- > From: Kieren MacMillan [mailto:kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:24 PM > To: Daniel Rosen > Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List > Subject: Re: Preventing tempo marks stacking (redux) > > Hi Daniel, > > Try this: > > \version "2.17.29" >

Re: Preventing tempo marks stacking (redux)

2013-11-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Daniel, > Thanks for the reply, but this doesn't do what I need---I still need the > MetronomeMarks to be aligned with the BarLines. Oh… Maybe Keith (cc’ed here) can help — he’s the one I got that set of overrides from. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypon

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

2013-11-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, > yes - but please if you go public (eg. LSR) - and I hope you will - don't > call the variables "left" or "right"; leftHand and rightHand seems less > confusable within LilyPond Might I suggest pianoUpper/pianoLower/pianoThird, or pianoI/pianoII/pianoIII, or similar? It's not a fact that t

Crash with \repeat ... \alternative and \remove "Bar_engraver" on 2.17.26

2013-11-10 Thread Jim Long
I was researching a method for defining form (repeats, rehearsal marks, etc.) and line breaking in separate, hidden parallel staff contexts, and ran across the following crash: GNU LilyPond 2.17.26 Processing `bug6-crash.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects... Findi

Re: Preventing tempo marks stacking (redux)

2013-11-10 Thread Keith OHara
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:39:26 -0800, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Daniel, Thanks for the reply, but this doesn't do what I need---I still need the MetronomeMarks to be aligned with the BarLines. Oh… Maybe Keith (cc’ed here) can help — he’s the one I got that set of overrides from. Cheers,

Re: Automated custom clef settings for custom staves

2013-11-10 Thread Paul Morris
David Kastrup wrote > Paul Morris < > paul@ > > writes: > >> Currently you have to make changes in the music (the content) for >> custom clefs to work, whether that's defining a new clef with a >> non-standard name, > > A definition of a new clef will usually occur outside of the music. I unde

Re: Automated custom clef settings for custom staves

2013-11-10 Thread Urs Liska
Paul Morris schrieb: >David Kastrup wrote >> Paul Morris < > >> paul@ > >> > writes: >> >>> Currently you have to make changes in the music (the content) for >>> custom clefs to work, whether that's defining a new clef with a >>> non-standard name, >> >> A definition of a new clef will usual

Re: What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?

2013-11-10 Thread Keith OHara
Michael Rivers gmail.com> writes: > Adding the additional space via markup worked. Is this an issue I should > create a bug tracker for? There is a close one LilyPond's strategy, spacing the staves and then deciding how to set the beams

Is this issue 2802?

2013-11-10 Thread Jim Long
Reducing this to a minimal example doesn't seem to be trivial so I'm hesitant to put in the time before I ask, ... Does the attached image look like issue 2802? The vertical moment of the ChordName staff is aligned too far left, and collides with the key signature of the melody staff. http://cod