Re: Schikkers List

2013/12/5 Jan Nieuwenhuizen > Federico Bruni writes: > > > I'm not a coder, so nothing. > > I was just thinking that I may test it better if I could run it on my > > computer. > > Okay...thanks for the offer! I'll think about it. Because development > is so slow the code is only available to th

Re: Schikkers List

Noeck writes: > how do you generate the visual output? Using LilyPond. > Does this scale to larger scores? It depends. Larger score support will need a lot of work. The first thing is to get this project really started. > Is there a possibility to compile line by line to get smaller changes

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

> I also think lilypond's website is terrible. It looks like something > out of the eighties knocked up on a dos machine. By comparison, > take a look at the home pages of musescore, finale and sibelius. Actually, I don't see a very big difference between lilypond's and musescore's site. But im

Re: Schikkers List

Federico Bruni writes: > I'm not a coder, so nothing. > I was just thinking that I may test it better if I could run it on my > computer. Okay...thanks for the offer! I'll think about it. Because development is so slow the code is only available to the actual developers for now. > I see that t

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Carl Peterson writes: > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > >> >> On Dec 4, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Phil Burfitt >> wrote: >> > I also think lilypond's website is terrible. It looks like >> > something out of the eighties knocked up on a dos machine. By >> > comparison, take a look

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Am 2013-12-05 um 01:12 schrieb David Kastrup : > Francisco Vila writes: > >> 2013/12/4 David Kastrup : >>> The last time this discussion came up, Frescobaldi did not work on >>> MacOSX. And it comes with its own dependencies. And installers. >> >> Fresco is now in Macports (whatever that mea

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > > On Dec 4, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Phil Burfitt > wrote: > > I also think lilypond's website is terrible. It looks like something out > of the eighties knocked up on a dos machine. By comparison, take a look at > the home pages of musescore, final

Re: LilyPond (and Denemo?)

I saw your video and kind of chuckled at how many windows popped up... not to make light of how many come up :) I only have two, the main window and a PDF viewer. - Ryan McClure Luna Music Engraving www.lunamusicengraving.com -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nab

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On Dec 4, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Phil Burfitt wrote: > From: "Janek Warchol" > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:55 PM > >> Hi, >> >> a couple of thoughts: >> >> 2013/12/4 Francisco Vila : >>> I find this path tortuous. People double-click >>> the lilypond icon, and don't see this shell as ma

Re: LilyPond (and Denemo?)

Ryan McClure wrote > Not having a problem here. I installed Denemo 1.0.4-1 on Arch and it works > fine. What OS are you running? Hi Ryan. I wasn't necessarily reporting any "problem", just a question or concern about how Denemo loads a ton of different mini-windows on startup. Were you able to che

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

- Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" To: "Phil Burfitt" Cc: "LilyPond Users" Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:19 AM Subject: Re: A thought on Windows Experience 2013/12/5 Phil Burfitt : I also think lilypond's website is terrible. It looks like something out of the eighti

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

2013/12/5 Phil Burfitt : > I also think lilypond's website is terrible. It looks like something out of > the eighties knocked up on a dos machine. By comparison, take a look at the > home pages of musescore, finale and sibelius. are you visiting http://lilypond.org/ or http://lilypond.org/web/ ?

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

From: "Janek Warchol" Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:55 PM Hi, a couple of thoughts: 2013/12/4 Francisco Vila : I find this path tortuous. People double-click the lilypond icon, and don't see this shell as many of them could expect. Instead, ugly things happen. Therefore, lilypond is

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Janek Warchoł writes: > Anyway, what about something like this: a "higher-level" installer > that installs LilyPond and lets user choose what editing program he > wants to use: > > "LilyPond files can be edited using different programs. Pleasse > choose what to install additionally: > * Denemo (

Re: Symmetrical ties in TieColumn

Hi, David   Your function for offsetting control-points of a TieColumn is very useful to me. Now it would be great if someone could improve it to make it work with ties over the line break.   Best Karol     Dnia 20-10-2013 o godz. 0:39 David Nalesnik napisał(a): Hi Karol, On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Hi, a couple of thoughts: 2013/12/4 Francisco Vila : > I find this path tortuous. People double-click > the lilypond icon, and don't see this shell as many of them could > expect. Instead, ugly things happen. Therefore, lilypond is ugly. I > think this summarizes the start and the end of a newcom

Re: Supporting my work on LilyPond financially

> Hi, > > we are nearing the end of the year, and, uh, it looks like I could make use > of some of the spirit of giving. > > As you can see from the accompanying report, the current number of people > supporting my work on LilyPond financially is on the decline: > while there are a few large d

Re: Denemo-feedback

Richard Shann writes: > At the moment this AI step is the simplest possible, it goes through the > durations that you played assigning them to the nearest note lengths > using only whole-note 1/256th note and dotted versions of them (no > triplet values have been entered in the table of durat

Re: LilyPond (and Denemo?)

Not having a problem here. I installed Denemo 1.0.4-1 on Arch and it works fine. What OS are you running? - Ryan McClure Luna Music Engraving www.lunamusicengraving.com -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/LilyPond-and-Denemo-tp155027p155057.html Sent from

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Am 04.12.2013 20:24, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: Am 04.12.2013 19:44, schrieb David Kastrup: Catering for integration of Frescobaldi would be a real headache. And the documentation would need adapting as well. That's not to say anything about the value provided by such an appro

Re: Different beaming for triplets

Richard Shann writes: > On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 19:05 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Richard Shann writes: >> >> > Thank you David (and to the others that replied), I had a go at >> > getting my head round this before I asked, I find it a serious >> > challenge. >> >> Yes. >> >> > It would be n

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Urs Liska writes: > Am 04.12.2013 19:44, schrieb David Kastrup: >> Catering for integration of Frescobaldi would be a real headache. And >> the documentation would need adapting as well. That's not to say >> anything about the value provided by such an approach, but it would >> likely make a lo

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Francisco Vila writes: > 2013/12/4 David Kastrup : >> The last time this discussion came up, Frescobaldi did not work on >> MacOSX. And it comes with its own dependencies. And installers. > > Fresco is now in Macports (whatever that means) and I think that means > it is now very easy to install

Re: A thought on Windows Experience (was: useability, promoting, etc)

On 05/12/13 05:02, Phil Holmes wrote: I am willing to look at improving the Windows experience, although this would need to wait until my degree finishes next Summer. However, there's one thing I don't know: what should happen when you double-click a .ly file in Explorer: open an editor or com

Re: Get context in Scheme function (determining current moment)

On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 04.12.2013 17:15, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: >> Am 04.12.2013 17:01, schrieb Urs Liska: >>> My \annotate function should also store the position in the score (to >>> print that out and to sort by it). >>> So when I use the function in the input fil

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Am 04.12.2013 20:56, schrieb Noeck: IMHO users should always be pointed to Frescobaldi and install it. Could Lilypond be included in the Frescobaldi download? As said I wouldn't want to promote that too much because I'm biased. But if there was an agreement on this it would be quite simple to

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

This editor in Windows is deterrent. When I started, it took several weeks after I gave LP a second try. The first thing I then did, was changing the default-opening-program to the standard windows notepad editor, because the fonts an the look of this LP editor window was so ugly. An I am glad that

Re: altering stem length of tuplets

Noeck, thank you, that did the trick :-) . Adding to snippets in frescobaldi :-D grtz, Bart http://www.bartart3d.be/ On facebook On Twitter On Identi.ca On Google+

Re: Get context in Scheme function (determining current moment)

Am 04.12.2013 17:15, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Am 04.12.2013 17:01, schrieb Urs Liska: My \annotate function should also store the position in the score (to print that out and to sort by it). So when I use the function in the input file it should store location elements and current measure and me

Re: altering stem length of tuplets

If you don't mind setting explicit beam positions, you probably could go with: \override Beam #'positions = #'(-2 . -2) % adjust the numbers Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

altering stem length of tuplets

Hi all, I'm trying to figure out how to alter the stem length of tuplets. I've tried \override Stem #'length = #1 for example. It did not work. The piece contains 3 voices, and it is the stem length of second voice I'm trying to change. The explanation on 'Altering the length of beamed stems' in

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Am 04.12.2013 19:44, schrieb David Kastrup: Catering for integration of Frescobaldi would be a real headache. And the documentation would need adapting as well. That's not to say anything about the value provided by such an approach, but it would likely make a lot more sense and a lot less work

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

2013/12/4 David Kastrup : > The last time this discussion came up, Frescobaldi did not work on > MacOSX. And it comes with its own dependencies. And installers. Fresco is now in Macports (whatever that means) and I think that means it is now very easy to install there. -- Francisco Vila. Badajo

Re: A thought on Windows Experience (was: useability, promoting, etc)

2013/12/4 Phil Holmes : > For me, I'd say that we should not install Frescobaldi as a pre-requisite of > running Lily on Windows. I'm a heavy Windows user, and would not want > another program installed by default. But you _already_ have another program installed by default: the lilypad editor. W

Re: Different beaming for triplets

On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 19:05 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Richard Shann writes: > > > Thank you David (and to the others that replied), I had a go at > > getting my head round this before I asked, I find it a serious > > challenge. > > Yes. > > > It would be nice to have a graphical way of sele

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Francisco Vila writes: > But wait: this has been done. Valentin Villenave dit it once. A bundle > that installed a PDF viewer and a small button panel with all the most > basic operatons. I don't remember if it included a message output. I was of the impression that LilyPad _was_ what was delive

Re: A thought on Windows Experience (was: useability, promoting, etc)

2013/12/4 SoundsFromSound : > I'm confused. There is a Lilypad for Windows. It comes standard w/ the > LilyPond installation. ? Yes. But it opens IIRC when you right-click on a ly document, then choose Edit. This lilypad editor does have a menu entry to compile. So, it is a sort of shell/editor.

Re: LilyPond (and Denemo?)

Noeck wrote > Am 04.12.2013 19:23, schrieb SoundsFromSound: >> Hello, >> >> Can someone take a quick look at this and see if what I'm experiencing is >> normal? I just did a fresh install of Denemo and opened it for the first >> time. This is what I see: >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/

Re: LilyPond (and Denemo?)

Am 04.12.2013 19:23, schrieb SoundsFromSound: > Hello, > > Can someone take a quick look at this and see if what I'm experiencing is > normal? I just did a fresh install of Denemo and opened it for the first > time. This is what I see: > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22105560/Denemo%20S

Re: A thought on Windows Experience (was: useability, promoting, etc)

From: "Urs Liska" Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 6:16 PM I am willing to look at improving the Windows experience, although this would need to wait until my degree finishes next Summer. However, there's one thing I don't know: what should happen when you double-click a .ly file in Explo

Re: A thought on Windows Experience (was: useability, promoting, etc)

pkx166h wrote > On 04/12/13 17:24, Francisco Vila wrote: >> Warning. I this message, "Why don't we" does not mean "do it, you >> slave". It means just asking "do you think it's a worthwhile idea?" >> >> The thread about usability and promoting has forked too much and my >> thoughts are somewhat rel

LilyPond (and Denemo?)

Hello, Can someone take a quick look at this and see if what I'm experiencing is normal? I just did a fresh install of Denemo and opened it for the first time. This is what I see: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22105560/Denemo%20Startup%20Config.mp4 (I've also attached a small (2MB) video fi

Re: A thought on Windows Experience (was: useability, promoting, etc)

>I am willing to look at improving the Windows experience, although this > >would need to wait until my degree finishes next Summer. However, >there's >one thing I don't know: what should happen when you double-click a .ly >file >in Explorer: open an editor or compile the file? And if the fo

Re: Different beaming for triplets

Richard Shann writes: > Thank you David (and to the others that replied), I had a go at > getting my head round this before I asked, I find it a serious > challenge. Yes. > It would be nice to have a graphical way of selecting what you want > visually and letting the computer do the hard work..

Re: A thought on Windows Experience (was: useability, promoting, etc)

- Original Message - From: "Francisco Vila" To: "LilyPond-User list" ; "LilyPond-Devel list" Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:24 PM Subject: A thought on Windows Experience (was: useability, promoting, etc) Warning. I this message, "Why don't we" does not mean "do it, you slave"

Re: A thought on Windows Experience (was: useability, promoting, etc)

On 04/12/13 17:24, Francisco Vila wrote: Warning. I this message, "Why don't we" does not mean "do it, you slave". It means just asking "do you think it's a worthwhile idea?" The thread about usability and promoting has forked too much and my thoughts are somewhat related to both. I am crosspost

Re: Different beaming for triplets

On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 16:52 +, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Richard Shann" > To: "lilypond-user" > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:30 PM > Subject: Different beaming for triplets > > > > I've been asked a beaming rule question: > > > > Is it possible to

Re: Different beaming for triplets

Thank you David (and to the others that replied), I had a go at getting my head round this before I asked, I find it a serious challenge. It would be nice to have a graphical way of selecting what you want visually and letting the computer do the hard work... Your new 2.19 syntax certainly looks an

A thought on Windows Experience (was: useability, promoting, etc)

Warning. I this message, "Why don't we" does not mean "do it, you slave". It means just asking "do you think it's a worthwhile idea?" The thread about usability and promoting has forked too much and my thoughts are somewhat related to both. I am crossposting to hear users feedback also, sorry for

Re: Help ~ LilyPond Tablature

hi, On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Раул Апонт wrote: > > I just wanted to know what is this bongos notation about, I do not > understand what "bohm" or "boho" is, it would be a pleasure to get some > help of you guys, I would definitely thank you if you send me a brief > description of this not

RE: Different beaming for triplets

Richard, This may help: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/beams#setting-autom atic-beam-behavior Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Richard Shann

Re: Different beaming for triplets

Richard Shann writes: > I've been asked a beaming rule question: > > Is it possible to specify a different beaming rule if a beat is divided > into a triplet? In this example > > > \version "2.16.0" > \score { > {\time 3/8 > d''4 \times 2/3 { bes''16 a'' bes'' } > fis''

Re: Help ~ LilyPond Tablature

Hello, I need some help with this concern. I just wanted to know what is this bongos notation about, I do not understand what “bohm” or “boho” is, it would be a pleasure to get some help of you guys, I would definitely thank you if you send me a brief description of this notation, it is intere

Re: Inconsistent behavior with additional staves?

- Original Message - From: "Lovis Suchmann" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 12:23 PM Subject: Inconsistent behavior with additional staves? Hello everyone, first: I'm new on this mailing list, so I hope I'm on the right place for my question: today when working with LilyPo

Different beaming for triplets

I've been asked a beaming rule question: Is it possible to specify a different beaming rule if a beat is divided into a triplet? In this example \version "2.16.0" \score { {\time 3/8 d''4 \times 2/3 { bes''16 a'' bes'' } fis''8 g''8 r ees'' \times 2/3 { d''16 c'' bes

Re: Get context in Scheme function (determining current moment)

Am 04.12.2013 17:01, schrieb Urs Liska: > My \annotate function should also store the position in the score (to > print that out and to sort by it). > So when I use the function in the input file it should store location > elements and current measure and measure position in several variables. so y

Re: Get context in Scheme function (determining current moment)

Am 04.12.2013 16:39, schrieb David Kastrup: Again: what are you trying to do? Probably my reply to your previous answer will have told you in the meantime. My \annotate function should also store the position in the score (to print that out and to sort by it). So when I use the function in th

Re: type of "location" argument

Am 04.12.2013 16:33, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Am 04.12.2013 15:04, schrieb Urs Liska: Hi, its: ly:input-location? HTH Unfortunately not (TH). This is what redirects me to Input * unsmob_input (SCM s) { if (SCM_IMP (s)) return 0; if (SCM_CAR (s) == (SCM)input_tag) // ugh. retur

Re: type of "location" argument

Am 04.12.2013 16:34, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: Am 04.12.2013 15:00, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Am 04.12.2013 14:58, schrieb Urs Liska: Hi, next helpless question: what Scheme type is the "location" argument used for Scheme functions? (write)ing location gives Hi, its: ly:input

Re: Get context in Scheme function (determining current moment)

Urs Liska writes: > Hi, > > when I'm trying to determine the the position in a piece when inside a > music function I think I have to use either > ly:context-current-moment > or > ly:context-now That's stupid: they do the same thing. Why do we have the same function twice? > Both functions tak

Re: type of "location" argument

Urs Liska writes: > Am 04.12.2013 15:00, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: >> Am 04.12.2013 14:58, schrieb Urs Liska: >>> Hi, >>> >>> next helpless question: what Scheme type is the "location" argument used >>> for Scheme functions? >>> (write)ing location gives >> Hi, its: >> ly:input-location? >> >> HTH

Re: type of "location" argument

Am 04.12.2013 15:04, schrieb Urs Liska: >> Hi, its: >> ly:input-location? >> >> HTH > Unfortunately not (TH). > This is what redirects me to > > Input * > unsmob_input (SCM s) > { > if (SCM_IMP (s)) > return 0; > if (SCM_CAR (s) == (SCM)input_tag) // ugh. > return (Input *) SCM_CDR (s)

Get context in Scheme function (determining current moment)

Hi, when I'm trying to determine the the position in a piece when inside a music function I think I have to use either ly:context-current-moment or ly:context-now Both functions take a 'context' as argument, but I don't see where this should be taken from. so a) how do I get a current conte

Re: type of "location" argument

Am 04.12.2013 15:00, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Am 04.12.2013 14:58, schrieb Urs Liska: Hi, next helpless question: what Scheme type is the "location" argument used for Scheme functions? (write)ing location gives Hi, its: ly:input-location? HTH Unfortunately not (TH). This is what redirects me

Re: type of "location" argument

Am 04.12.2013 14:58, schrieb Urs Liska: > Hi, > > next helpless question: what Scheme type is the "location" argument used > for Scheme functions? > (write)ing location gives Hi, its: ly:input-location? HTH ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@

type of "location" argument

Hi, next helpless question: what Scheme type is the "location" argument used for Scheme functions? (write)ing location gives #/home/uliska/git/openLilyLib/snippets/editorial-tools/annotate/examples.ly:29:3> While I didn't find anything about the "#<" combination in Scheme in general I have

New "ancient" music font available, but not for us

http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/leipzig-urtext-fonts-now-available-from-fontshop/ I like these fonts, but do you agree with me that the second example partially spoils the impression through too regular spacing? I would love to see the same typeset through LilyPond ... One more point for the

Inconsistent behavior with additional staves?

Hello everyone, first: I'm new on this mailing list, so I hope I'm on the right place for my question: today when working with LilyPond, I noticed some strange behaviour with additional staves. Have a look at the LilyPond code below. When interpreting this, the staves named "eigth" and "sixt

Re: promoting LilyPond

On 04/12/13 11:18, David Kastrup wrote: It's not really a discussion: I am just reiterating points already made a lot of times with regard to Free Software. Corporate parents can easily become a liability rather than an asset, and when that happens, you are powerless as a user. Yes, I'm very f

Re: promoting LilyPond

Urs Liska writes: > Am 04.12.2013 11:18, schrieb David Kastrup: >> We're not there yet. LilyPond is more a humongous blob of an >> application rather than a music typesetting_platform_, like Emacs is an >> easily extended editing platform. >> > > Of course this would be a beautiful idea. And it'

Re: promoting LilyPond

Am 04.12.2013 11:18, schrieb David Kastrup: We're not there yet. LilyPond is more a humongous blob of an application rather than a music typesetting_platform_, like Emacs is an easily extended editing platform. Of course this would be a beautiful idea. And it's of course very good to work in

Re: promoting LilyPond

Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > On 04/12/13 10:33, David Kastrup wrote: >> Uh, the original developers of Sibelius made Avid an offer for buying >> Sibelius back. The offer was turned down. > > Happy to have this discussion if you want it, but I think it's getting > away from the point I wante

Re: promoting LilyPond

On 04/12/13 10:33, David Kastrup wrote: Uh, the original developers of Sibelius made Avid an offer for buying Sibelius back. The offer was turned down. Happy to have this discussion if you want it, but I think it's getting away from the point I wanted to make. It's simply that I don't see t

Re: ly:context-mod? list to string

Urs Liska writes: > Ah, I'd already grepped the git repo in the past, but didn't see it as > a standard means when looking up usage information. Thanks. Well, in doubt the documentation string is relevant, but you have to find it first. "git grep" has the main advantage of being really fast. W

Re: promoting LilyPond

Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > Yes, the processes of contribution-based free software "break" in > different ways to the processes of commercial proprietary software -- > there are different risks and different benefits. But the fact is, > someone using Sibelius now does not have to worry abo

Re: Denemo-feedback

On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 08:23 +0100, Johan Vromans wrote: > Richard Shann writes: > > > Right now I have a new entry option nearly complete - playing on a MIDI > > keyboard and then entering the rhythm. > > By hitting a MIDI keyboard key in the desired rhythm? Well, that is what is interesting: i

Re: ly:context-mod? list to string

Am 04.12.2013 07:46, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: Thanks for pointing this out. with "write" I indeed see what I want to. But when I try to pass that to a ly:message I'll get Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting string): ("critical-remark") ly:message expects a string.

Re: promoting LilyPond

On 03/12/13 22:47, David Kastrup wrote: You are aware that the Sibelius development team has been laid off due to financial problems of their parent company in spite of Sibelius having a paying market and turning a profit? Yes, fully. But there is still _a_ Sibelius development team, there is