Re: Problems with LilyJAZZ.ily

Am 10.12.2013 00:49, schrieb Janek Warcho?: 2013/12/8 David Kastrup : "Shall be" does not state when. It's certainly not a replacement for a formal submission. If someone finds a way to get hold of the author and get him to place the thing in some public place with a clear license statement, i

Re: lilypond.org "Pondings"

Am 10.12.2013 04:01, schrieb Paul Morris: Urs Liska wrote Step out of the dark and tell the world what we do! I use LilyPond for alternative music notation systems like Clairnote: http://clairnote.org/ http://clairnote.org/sheet-music/ and TwinNote (which was my previous focus): http://clairno

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Anthonys Lists writes: > Likewise, I have no trouble using lilypond's *P*D*F* manuals. My mind > is very text-oriented. But I HATE HYPERTEXT. My IQ is off the scale > (not really, but I'm in the top few percent of the population), but > give me a web-site and if what I'm looking for is not starin

Re: lilypond.org "Pondings"

On Dec 10, 2013, at 12:20 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote: > 2013/12/7 Urs Liska : >> Mike, are you still "responsible" for this or how will new Pondings be >> included? > > Pondings can be added by anyone who has push access (and if someone > without it makes a patch, having it pushed by someone should

Re: lilypond.org "Pondings"

Urs Liska wrote > Step out of the dark and tell the world what we do! I use LilyPond for alternative music notation systems like Clairnote: http://clairnote.org/ http://clairnote.org/sheet-music/ and TwinNote (which was my previous focus): http://clairnote.org/twinnote/ http://clairnote.org/twinn

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

Hi all, > I think this is a paradoxical situation: > if a staff (group) is removed then the vertical spacing of the staff group > above is applied This isn’t “paradoxical”; it’s a lack in the spacing algorithm/.parameters, one which has irritated me for a long time. There should be a way to set

Re: Problems with LilyJAZZ.ily

2013/12/8 David Kastrup : > "Shall be" does not state when. It's certainly not a replacement for a > formal submission. If someone finds a way to get hold of the author and > get him to place the thing in some public place with a clear license > statement, it would not get lost in case he becomes

Re: promoting LilyPond

2013/12/6 Johan Vromans : > "Trevor Daniels" writes: > >> A real example using a template which >> provides an SATB choir on two staves with lyrics between them and >> a piano staff with accompaniment is attached. > > I've been using a similar approach for SLHML choir, with a skeleton > template (

Re: promoting LilyPond

2013/12/6 Trevor Daniels : > > Janek Warchoł wrote Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:29 PM > >> 2013/12/6 Trevor Daniels : >>> >>> A simpler approach would be to embed templates into LP so that they >>> could just be invoked. The template would provide the context structure >>> of a particular type o

Re: adding engravers

Hi David, > I don't like exceptions. I understand, me neither. But to me the current way looks like an exception (until the user understands the details). I attached a small list what users struggle with, whom I help to use LP*. >> I know that your are reluctant towards such changes and mostly f

Re: lilypond.org "Pondings"

2013/12/7 Urs Liska : > Mike, are you still "responsible" for this or how will new Pondings be > included? Pondings can be added by anyone who has push access (and if someone without it makes a patch, having it pushed by someone should be a no-brainer). David is adding one now: http://code.google

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On 09/12/2013 06:12, James Harkins wrote: My flippant response makes it sound like any reasonably intelligent person would find the right information fairly quickly, casting the problem in terms of user carelessness. That was a misstatement. My point is that reasonably intelligent, reasonably c

Re: man pages refer to older version in title

2013/12/9 Scott Miller > I am not sure if this is due to being in development, but I wanted to send > a note that the man pages for lilypond, musicxml2ly and such for 2.17.x > have version 2.14.2 in the title text of the man page doc. > the man pages are part of your distro lilypond package $ ap

Re: man pages refer to older version in title

Ah! Cancel. That appears to be from the Debian stable version of lilypond on the system. :) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: man pages refer to older version in title

- Original Message - From: Scott Miller To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 9:16 PM Subject: man pages refer to older version in title I am not sure if this is due to being in development, but I wanted to send a note that the man pages for lilypond, musicxml2ly

man pages refer to older version in title

I am not sure if this is due to being in development, but I wanted to send a note that the man pages for lilypond, musicxml2ly and such for 2.17.x have version 2.14.2 in the title text of the man page doc. (linux 64bit binary from lilypond.org) $ lilypond --version GNU LilyPond 2.17.97 Copyrigh

Re: adding engravers

Noeck writes: >>> \layout { >>> \consists Staff.Ambitus_engraver >>> } >> >> That would only make any kind of sense if you could actually write >> \consists Staff.Ambitus_engraver also in mid-music. > > What is the connection? I would not expect this just because the > syntax to \override is

Re: LilyPond editing environments

Am 09.12.2013 18:19, schrieb Carl Peterson: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Would a section "Online Tools" better be placed between the "full-fledged" editors (Frescobaldi/Denemo) and "Text editors" or after the "Text ed

Re: LilyPond editing environments

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > >> >> Would a section "Online Tools" better be placed between the >> "full-fledged" editors (Frescobaldi/Denemo) and "Text editors" or after the >> "Text editors". >> >> I think we could co

Re: LilyPond editing environments

2013/12/9 Urs Liska : > Would a section "Online Tools" better be placed between the "full-fledged" > editors (Frescobaldi/Denemo) and "Text editors" or after the "Text editors". before "text editors" imo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.

Re: LilyPond editing environments

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > > Would a section "Online Tools" better be placed between the "full-fledged" > editors (Frescobaldi/Denemo) and "Text editors" or after the "Text editors". > > I think we could consider not only score editors but also tools like > - http://scale

Re: LilyPond editing environments

Am 09.12.2013 17:34, schrieb Janek Warchoł: 2013/12/9 Federico Bruni : 2013/12/9 Janek Warchoł Hard to say. And I think there was some licensing problem with Lilybin (it may not be fully free, and as GNU we cannot recommend non-free programs). I see MIT license here: https://github.com/trev

Re: adding engravers

Hi David, thanks for patiently answering my mail. > like \music copying a music variable, \Staff copies a context > definition. The salient point is that this context definition contains > a \name "Staff", so without overriding \name (which is perfectly > feasible), the new definition will get s

Re: LilyPond editing environments

2013/12/9 Federico Bruni : > 2013/12/9 Janek Warchoł >> >> Hard to say. And I think there was some licensing problem with >> Lilybin (it may not be fully free, and as GNU we cannot recommend >> non-free programs). > > > I see MIT license here: > https://github.com/trevordixon/LilyBin/blob/master/

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 15:56 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Richard Shann writes: > > > I thought I would test out the binary that is on denemo.org and > > downloaded it in a virtual machine running a vanilla Debian stable O/S, > > the result: it will not even start. The executables ~/usr/bin/denem

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

karol wrote > This doesn't solve the problem. Look at the example. In the first system > spacing is proper, but in the second, distance between 'b' and 'd' is 9 > (should be 10.5). I think this is a paradoxical situation: if a staff (group) is removed then the vertical spacing of the staff group

Re: LilyPond editing environments

2013/12/9 Janek Warchoł > Hard to say. And I think there was some licensing problem with > Lilybin (it may not be fully free, and as GNU we cannot recommend > non-free programs). > I see MIT license here: https://github.com/trevordixon/LilyBin/blob/master/LICENSE ___

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Richard Shann writes: > I thought I would test out the binary that is on denemo.org and > downloaded it in a virtual machine running a vanilla Debian stable O/S, > the result: it will not even start. The executables ~/usr/bin/denemo and > ~/usr/bin/lilypond are present and have the right permissi

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:15 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Richard Shann writes: > > > On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 11:51 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > >> David Kastrup writes: > >> > >> _Very_ frustrating and unusable. Complains about missing libraries when > >> starting but those are available in Ub

Re: adding engravers

Noeck writes: > Inside a \with context or for the default context, this is short and > nice to write. But it gets more lengthy for general settings in the > layout block when different contexts are addressed. I always have to > look it up as for the former #' syntax. Perhaps time to learn what e

adding engravers

Hi, Inside a \with context or for the default context, this is short and nice to write. But it gets more lengthy for general settings in the layout block when different contexts are addressed. I always have to look it up as for the former #' syntax. Is there a shorter way for a general setting li

Re: LilyPond editing environments

2013/12/9 Urs Liska : > Hi, > > I have a few questions about the contents of the "Easier editing" page on > lilypond.org. > > a) > LilyPondTool. > The link is broken, and http://lilypondtool.blogspot.de/ states (as of > 2012-09-14) that development of LilyPondTool is stopped. > Should I move it to

Re: Unaccepted #t

Hi Tom, Am 09.12.2013 14:05, schrieb Tom van der Hoeven: > \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-permission = #'force > \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-permission = #'allow > > this solves the problem, but is is strange that > > \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-pe

Re: Unaccepted #t

Urs, thank for you quick reply. I am translating pieces with clef alto to clef treble First step by just copy the original. At checking time I want to be in sink with the original Second step clef treble and free format, because the spacing of Lilypond is the best. For free format you need chan

Re: LilyPond Website Work

Il 09/dic/2013 09:22 "Janek Warchoł" ha scritto: > > 2013/12/9 Carl Peterson : > > 2013/12/6 David Kastrup : > > > A complete color _scheme_ might be distracting, but it may make sense to > > > have a title or side bar or other obvious always on-screen element > > > color-coded. > > > > Okay, so I

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 11:51 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > David Kastrup writes: > > > Richard Shann writes: > > > >> On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 09:52 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > >> > >>> Denemo: this is a GUI application for writing music scores that uses > >>> LilyPond internally for creating its

Re: Unaccepted #t

> both the line- and the page-break-permissions expect one of these key > words: 'allow or 'force and not boolean values (#t or #f). PS: Btw, this documented here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/internals/nonmusicalpapercolumn PPS: If you put this in the layout block, they are valid

Re: Unaccepted #t

Am 09.12.2013 13:00, schrieb Tom van der Hoeven: > The following snippet gives an error because ##t > Why > \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-permission = ##t > \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-permission = ##f Hi Tom, both the line- and the page-break-permissi

Re: Unaccepted #t

Am 09.12.2013 13:00, schrieb Tom van der Hoeven: The following snippet gives an error because ##t Why Tom \version "2.16.2" freeformat = #f \score{ \new Staff << \relative c'{ c d e f a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a \break a b f} >> \layout { \context

Unaccepted #t

The following snippet gives an error because ##t Why Tom \version "2.16.2" freeformat = #f \score{ \new Staff << \relative c'{ c d e f a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a g a \break a b f} >> \layout { \context { \Score \override NonMusicalPaperColu

Re: LilyPond 2.17.97 released!

I've just been informed by Phil that due to internet connection problems during the upload not all files have reached the server - this will be fixed as soon as possible! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Re-LilyPond-2-17-97-released-tp155419.html Sen

LilyPond editing environments

Hi, I have a few questions about the contents of the "Easier editing" page on lilypond.org. a) LilyPondTool. The link is broken, and http://lilypondtool.blogspot.de/ states (as of 2012-09-14) that development of LilyPondTool is stopped. Should I move it to the " Other programs not being activ

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

David Kastrup writes: > ** (denemo:6378): WARNING **: Trying to read the pdf file > file:///tmp/DenemoneMNfd/denemoprintA.pdf gave an error: Error opening > file: No such file or directory > > starting to generate LilyPond > > finished generating LilyPond > > > which is probably related to the pr

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

David Kastrup writes: > Richard Shann writes: > >> On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 09:52 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> >>> Denemo: this is a GUI application for writing music scores that uses >>> LilyPond internally for creating its output. While working with it, >>> you will not be exposed to the LilyP

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Richard Shann writes: > On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 09:52 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Denemo: this is a GUI application for writing music scores that uses >> LilyPond internally for creating its output. While working with it, >> you will not be exposed to the LilyPond language at all, > > This is

Re: LilyPond 2.17.97 released!

couldn't find the windows version! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Re-LilyPond-2-17-97-released-tp155413p155414.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list l

Re: LilyPond 2.17.97 released!

Not Found The requested URL /lilypond/binaries/linux-64/lilypond-2.17.97-1.linux-64.sh was not found on this server. Original-Nachricht > We are excited to announce the release of LilyPond 2.17.97 as a potential > final beta release for the upcoming stable release 2.18. The de

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 09:52 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > James Harkins writes: > > > Carl's two-column approach is pretty much what I had in > > mind. Although, he suggests this would be only a slight improvement. I > > think it could be more than that. Suppose we introduce the downloads > > wit

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Am 09.12.2013 10:15, schrieb James Harkins: Denemo: this is a GUI application for writing music scores that uses LilyPond internally for creating its output. I think this is too much to ask people to read on the download page. The download page should be as simple as possible and direct pe

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On Monday, December 9, 2013 4:52:08 PM HKT, David Kastrup wrote: James Harkins writes: Carl's two-column approach is pretty much what I had in mind. Although, he suggests this would be only a slight improvement. I think it could be more than that. Suppose we introduce the downloads with a coup

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 00:10 +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: > 2013/12/5 Richard Shann > The Denemo windows and mac binaries have LilyPond built in. > Not sure > about the GNU/Linux one. > > > I would bet that it's not built in. I just checked, and the GNU/Linux one does in

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

James Harkins writes: > Carl's two-column approach is pretty much what I had in > mind. Although, he suggests this would be only a slight improvement. I > think it could be more than that. Suppose we introduce the downloads > with a couple of paragraphs across the top: > > ~~ > IMPORTANT: A compl

Heard on Twitter

In a reply the MuseScore Twitter account stated that the LilyPond export function will be removed in the next version: @shoorick77 Lilypond export is removed for next version in favour of consolidating efforts on MusicXML i/o http://twitter.com/musescore/status/409830922658529280 Best Pete

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Am 09.12.2013 07:28, schrieb Carl Peterson: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, James Harkins > wrote: Carl's two-column approach is pretty much what I had in mind. Although, he suggests this would be only a slight improvement. I think it could be more than t

Re: LilyPond Website Work

2013/12/9 Carl Peterson : > 2013/12/6 David Kastrup : > > A complete color _scheme_ might be distracting, but it may make sense to > > have a title or side bar or other obvious always on-screen element > > color-coded. > > Okay, so I have a patch set ready to go with this. The only differences are

Re: Lilypond Website Work

Carl Peterson writes: > On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: >> >> I have something in development for #2 on Federico's list. I've parsed >> through enough of the texi2html script that I was able to insert CSS >> classes into the tag that will allow me to color code each manual.