Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Paul
On 11/01/2016 09:50 PM, Paul wrote: so I'm not sure how or even whether this kind of thing can be done in user space (at least not with existing functions like map-some-music). Well, here's a start on something, but still not sure how to pull it off fully: \version "2.19.49" split =

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Paul
Hi Kieren, On 11/01/2016 08:32 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: I'm not sure how to write a function that accepts an arbitrary number of music expressions. Couldn’t the function “look forward” the number of entries in the udududud list? I don't think that can work, because the function has to be

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > I'm not sure how to write a function that accepts an arbitrary > number of music expressions. Couldn’t the function “look forward” the number of entries in the udududud list? > that seems to call for a "list of music expressions”, > but I'm not sure to what extent that would make the

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Phil, > Who uses four voices on one stave in vocal setting? Why would this functionality be limited to vocal setting? Here is a screenshot of a three-voice section in my Chaconne for unaccompanied violin: There are many uses for multiple [musical] voices that don’t involve "vocal

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Urs Liska
Am 01.11.2016 um 23:40 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi all, > >> [pseudocode:] >> \splitUD { topmusic \with UP } { bottommusic \with DOWN } >> \splitUUD { topmusic \with UP } { middlemusic \with UP } { bottommusic >> \with DOWN } >> \splitUDD { topmusic \with UP } { middlemusic \with DOWN

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, > [pseudocode:] > \splitUD { topmusic \with UP } { bottommusic \with DOWN } > \splitUUD { topmusic \with UP } { middlemusic \with UP } { bottommusic > \with DOWN } > \splitUDD { topmusic \with UP } { middlemusic \with DOWN } { bottommusic > \with DOWN } > etc. If I was better

midi volume: default, crescendo, dynamic context, multiple staff

2016-11-01 Thread Gianmaria Lari
What's the default midi volume in case I don't specify an absolute dynamic mark (like \p \f etc)? Is there any way to change this default value? A crescendo mark that's not ending with an absolute dynamic mark how much does increase or decrease the midi volume? In case I separate the dynamics

Re: Making a Hairpin end close to the end of a Score

2016-11-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Chris, we use to always keep communication on-list, except in special circumstances. Thus everybody will be able to follow and see whether there has been a solution, or look it up in the archives. So ‘reply all’. On 01.11.2016 23:02, Christopher Heckman wrote: On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 28.10.2016 21:50, Noeck wrote: Btw, having the new list syntax in mind I wondered whether this would work in recent development versions: \compoundMeter 4/4,1/3 But it does not the 4/4 translates to (4 . 4) and not (4 4). \compoundMeter (4,4),(1,3) does not work either. Can this list syntax

Re: Making a Hairpin end close to the end of a Score

2016-11-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 31.10.2016 06:10, Jay Anderson wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Christopher Heckman wrote: I stumbled on this hack, and it doesn't appear to be anywhere online. As is, you can't have a hairpin run until the very end of a score; it will stop before the

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Tuesday, November 01, 2016 4:11 PM > I want to rename the \voiceXXX constructs > as well. The old ones will be available still but no longer promoted > and/or documented prominently, instead using something like \voiceUp, > \voiceDown, \inner \voiceUp, \inner \VoiceDown ...

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, A fascinating thread, for a number of reasons… Regardless of how the individual functions are ultimately named, might I recommend we add a *lot* of syntactic sugar? I have custom functions called “splitX” (workhorses in my code), which remove the need for me to remember how to code

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-10-28 1:46 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : > 2016-10-27 13:40 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : >> >> This concerns << ... \\ ... \\ ... ... >> >> >> If we have more than one voice, voices are assigned in order: >> >> 1/2, 1/2/3, 1/2/3/4, 1/2/3/4/5, 1/2/3/4/5/6 ...

RE: Exited with return code -1073741819.

2016-11-01 Thread Andrew Bernard
HI Folks, I am not sure for whom you mean error prone - the user, or the compiler. It seems like after many many repetitions of the variable constructs representing each bar lilypond just loses the plot and runs out of resources. It's probably a really obscure bug. It's a use case hardly worth

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread David Kastrup
David Wright writes: > >> Now the Voice contexts are still going to be assigned sequentially as >> "1"/"2", "1"/"2"/"3", "1"/"2"/"3"/"4" (nothing else makes sense really). >> So in order not to cause confusion by having "1"/"2"/"3"/"4" correspond >> to

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread David Wright
On Tue 01 Nov 2016 at 17:11:30 (+0100), David Kastrup wrote: > "Phil Holmes" writes: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "David Kastrup" > > To: "Trevor Daniels" > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, November 01,

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > "Br. Samuel Springuel" writes: > >> I'd default the flag to the old behavior while the new one is being >> worked on and then default it to the new behavior once a stable state >> has been reached. > > I don't see that "the new one"

Re: Exited with return code -1073741819.

2016-11-01 Thread David Wright
On Tue 01 Nov 2016 at 15:23:21 (+0100), David Kastrup wrote: > "Andrew Bernard" writes: > > Hi Ming, > > We have been through this before, I am sorry to say. You write > > lilypond code in a way that compiles, yes, but it is pathological in > > the extreme, to put it

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread David Kastrup
"Br. Samuel Springuel" writes: > I'm not a heavy user, so take my thoughts with whatever grain of salt > you want, but this is how I would naively expect these constructs to > work: > > << \\ \\ \\ >> > The voices would be entered in order from top to bottom. In this way

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "David Kastrup" > To: "Trevor Daniels" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 2:42 PM > Subject: Re: Changing voice order... > > > >> There are by

Re: BendSpanner-engraver

2016-11-01 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mar 1 nov 2016 alle 16:02, Thomas Morley ha scritto: Federico, in a private mail you asked about Ties in interplay with bends. General excluding tied notes from being bend is possible but not a good idea (see some of the examples in

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Trevor Daniels" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 2:42 PM Subject: Re: Changing voice order... There are by now two components to my proposal: fading out \voiceOne ...

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Br. Samuel Springuel
I'm not a heavy user, so take my thoughts with whatever grain of salt you want, but this is how I would naively expect these constructs to work: << \\ \\ \\ >> The voices would be entered in order from top to bottom. In this way the physical structure of the code would resemble the structure

Re: BendSpanner-engraver

2016-11-01 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-10-20 12:11 GMT+02:00 Marc Hohl : > Am 13.09.2016 um 22:41 schrieb Thomas Morley: > [...] >> >> 2016-09-13 8:33 GMT+02:00 Marc Hohl : > > >>> I hope to find the source somewhere to provide you a scan of how it >>> should >>> look like. >> >> >> Would be

Re: Question for a FLOSS licensing session

2016-11-01 Thread David Kastrup
Edward Ardzinski writes: > After reading these replies I may not be wiser...but it did occur to > me that there might be a flaw in my thinking as I do the "programming" > with Frescobaldi. Does that have an impact on any of these issues? > Would have been changed

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread David Kastrup
"Trevor Daniels" writes: > Simon Albrecht wrote Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:42 AM > >>On 27.10.2016 13:40, David Kastrup wrote: >>> This concerns << ... \\ ... \\ ... ... >> >>> >>> If we have more than one voice, voices are assigned in order: >>> >>> 1/2, 1/2/3,

Re: Exited with return code -1073741819.

2016-11-01 Thread David Kastrup
"Andrew Bernard" writes: > Hi Ming, > > > > We have been through this before, I am sorry to say. You write > lilypond code in a way that compiles, yes, but it is pathological in > the extreme, to put it mildly. You set each and every bar as a > variable, and when

Re: Question for a FLOSS licensing session

2016-11-01 Thread Edward Ardzinski
After reading these replies I may not be wiser...but it did occur to me that there might be a flaw in my thinking as I do the "programming" with Frescobaldi. Does that have an impact on any of these issues? Would have been changed looking back to the "old days" when I used my own editor I wrote

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Simon Albrecht wrote Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:42 AM >On 27.10.2016 13:40, David Kastrup wrote: >> This concerns << ... \\ ... \\ ... ... >> >> >> If we have more than one voice, voices are assigned in order: >> >> 1/2, 1/2/3, 1/2/3/4, 1/2/3/4/5, 1/2/3/4/5/6 ... >> >> while the documentation

RE: Slur too long

2016-11-01 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Simon, Strangely no, although perhaps I need to look more closely now that you say so. But no obvious vertical spacing errors arise from my extensive usage, and I am pretty sure I would be quick to complain! :-) Odd, this, then. Andrew -Original Message- From: Simon Albrecht Sent:

RE: Exited with return code -1073741819.

2016-11-01 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Ming, We have been through this before, I am sorry to say. You write lilypond code in a way that compiles, yes, but it is pathological in the extreme, to put it mildly. You set each and every bar as a variable, and when there are several voices, introduce new parallel voices in every

Re: Exited with return code -1073741819.

2016-11-01 Thread MING TSANG
Andrew,Here is the .ly file. I did further compile, now the error appear on left piano bar 54. Thank you for your help. Immanuel,Ming From: Andrew Bernard To: MING TSANG Cc: Lilypond-usermailinglist Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Slur too long

2016-11-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 01.11.2016 00:30, Andrew Bernard wrote: Hi Ilja, Like Harm, I do not think the slur is too long in this case. That is right that it extends past the stem and over the flag. There is a very powerful slur shape function called \shapeII in the openlilylib project. You may want to look into

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
Now I’ve read up the whole thread, I might add some clarification on my thoughts. On 01.11.2016 11:42, Simon Albrecht wrote: The current mechanism at least provides consistency between the \voiceOne, \voiceTwo… command names and the order in << \\ \\ >>. And I don’t see how strict top-down

Re: Changing voice order...

2016-11-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 27.10.2016 13:40, David Kastrup wrote: This concerns << ... \\ ... \\ ... ... >> If we have more than one voice, voices are assigned in order: 1/2, 1/2/3, 1/2/3/4, 1/2/3/4/5, 1/2/3/4/5/6 ... while the documentation is quite explicit that, ordered from top to bottom, assignments should be