Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 25.05.2017 um 16:46 schrieb msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca: This thread: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-01/msg00248.html User wants to engrave a chord they describe as "Gm7(b5)/F" and is told to type g : m7.5- / f Note the desired output does not contain a colon or hyphen

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Thomas Morley
' 2017-05-25 16:46 GMT+02:00 : > On Thu, 25 May 2017, Thomas Morley wrote: >> I vaguely remember such threads. >> Though, could you give some examples (or links) so it is present here as >> well? Hi Mathew, thanks for collecting the links, examples and your comments about it. Let me add some o

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread mskala
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Mats Behre wrote: > While this is true, in order to support things like transposition (which I for > one use frequently) I think you will have to devise formats for input and > internal representation (they may be the same) that identifies both all Yes, if you're doing transpo

Unofficial MusicXML test suite access problem

2017-05-25 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello folks, — For your information — The links in that page: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/input/regression/musicxml/collated-files.html seem to be broken or to lead to a zip archive containing an empty « home » directory. The same holds for: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Matthew (et al.), > Request for "rootless slash chords” > the user will enter something like > \chordmode { c c/e c/g } > to get the desired output of > C /E /G Definitely on my wish list. > with LilyPond doing some kind of translation to not show roots when there's > a slash, but what wou

Re: Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread tisimst
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Jan-Peter Voigt [via Lilypond] < ml+s1069038n20...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > just to summarize what I was talking about recently at the Music Encoding > Conference in Tours. Yes, I am working on an API to provide a generalized > plug for modules that are able to

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread mskala
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Thomas Morley wrote: > I vaguely remember such threads. > Though, could you give some examples (or links) so it is present here as well? Request for "rootless slash chords" from 2014 but brought up in a thread here last month: https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/

Re: Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread David Wright
On Thu 25 May 2017 at 12:09:16 (+0200), Mats Behre wrote: > If the only purpose is to export to Finale or Sibelius the score itself may > well be a solution - there is software like SmartScore or PhotoScore that is > able convert it to their formats. Of course, they cost money, so your friend >

Re: Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread David Wright
On Thu 25 May 2017 at 18:34:24 (+1000), Don Gingrich wrote: > On Thu, 25 May 2017 09:08:35 Richard Shann wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 17:45 +1000, Don Gingrich wrote: > > > If not, then I suggest that this is a "lock-in" similar > > > to that of some of the M$ programs. > > > > There is a cruc

Re: Accidentals.sharp with number

2017-05-25 Thread Emrecan
I can write text. \markup{ \combine \musicglyph #"accidentals.sharp" \hspace #0.1 \super \musicglyph #"eight" } Result: #⁸ I will write a fuction like this but I can't. Can you help me, what is wrong? sharptwo= #(list(make-musicglyph-markup "sharp") (make-musicglyph-markup

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Mats, > Even though the average user doesn't think of an intermediate representation > a program that can do manipulations still needs a representation it can work > with. Yes! Thanks, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Matthew (et al.), > This is why I think the chord names -> music -> chord names flow is a problem. The fact that this flow exists is great, IMO. The fact that this is the *only* flow is clearly a problem. > Real users When talking about users, unnecessary and fallacious qualifications like “

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Harm, > Am I correct you did all by chord-exceptions? Correct. The polychord notation requires a hack (and I never finished that portion). Cheers, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Harm, > Could you give a pseudo-code-example demonstrating something > for which current LilyPond fails? Using the current codebase, how can I get the following *exactly* in Lilypond? C /B/Bb Thanks, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: w

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Harm, > could you demonstrate what you want to see printed for the above chord? Different context(s), different output(s). See my answer to Simon’s similar question. > Looks for me like you try to insist on a specific voicing > for the C⁷ part, how _could_ this be specified? does exactly t

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Simon (et al.), >>C4/3 / Db > Corresponding to ? Correct. > Adhering to standards would result in C7/Db, wouldn’t it? *Which* standards? 1. In my musical theatre and jazz charts, you are correct: I would want C7/Db to be written to the chord symbol line. 2. In my new “classical”/“art

Re: Fwd: [Frescobaldi] GSoC Project "Add Support for Git Workflows to Frescobaldi" introduction (Urs Liska)

2017-05-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 25.05.2017 um 14:04 schrieb Leszek Wroński: > > Guys, > > apologies if I've missed something obvious, but what is the intended > place for discussing the very welcome 'Add Git support to Frescobaldi' > project? Here? The Frescobaldi forum? The wiki (but where?)? Well, the "natural" place for

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 25.05.2017 um 06:26 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Except contains a huge amount of information that cannot currently be input in \chordmode (as far as I know). Nor can it be output, as far as I know. What you mention, is a specific voicing of a C7/E, and doesn’t chord notation by design leave

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 25.05.2017 um 05:58 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Definitely not! What if I want a C7 in second inversion over a Db? In pseudo-harmonic-analysis code, that would be C4/3 / Db Corresponding to ? Other question: You say yourself that that’s non-standard writing, and more harmonic analysis

Re: Fwd: [Frescobaldi] GSoC Project "Add Support for Git Workflows to Frescobaldi" introduction (Urs Liska)

2017-05-25 Thread Leszek Wroński
Guys, apologies if I've missed something obvious, but what is the intended place for discussing the very welcome 'Add Git support to Frescobaldi' project? Here? The Frescobaldi forum? The wiki (but where?)? (I just have a minor requst: it would be convenient if we could create and change branches

Re: Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello Don, Urs and all, just to summarize what I was talking about recently at the Music Encoding Conference in Tours. Yes, I am working on an API to provide a generalized plug for modules that are able to write MusicXML, MEI, Humdrum and others. I am not familiar with ABC, but maybe one can wo

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-05-25 5:58 GMT+02:00 Kieren MacMillan : > Hi Simon (et al.), > >>> added bass note >>> inversions >> I’m under the impression that in chord notation those are actually the same > > Definitely not! What if I want a C7 in second inversion over a Db? In > pseudo-harmonic-analysis code, that woul

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi Matthew, 2017-05-25 3:39 GMT+02:00 : > On Wed, 24 May 2017, Charles Winston wrote: >> I’m participating in the Google Summer of Code working on improving >> LilyPond’s internal representation of chords. The goal here is to create a >> data structure that will represent a chord’s semantics be

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-05-25 6:00 GMT+02:00 Kieren MacMillan : > Hi Harm, > >> Once I tried to get Brandt-Roemer namings. > > Have you seen my B-R stylesheet? It’s almost a complete representation. Hi Kieren, I don't have it stored here, but seem to remember having seen it on the list here some time ago. Am I corr

Re: Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread Mats Behre
If the only purpose is to export to Finale or Sibelius the score itself may well be a solution - there is software like SmartScore or PhotoScore that is able convert it to their formats. Of course, they cost money, so your friend may not be willing to go down that path ... Mats __

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-25 Thread Mats Behre
On 2017-05-25 06:52, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: On Thu, 25 May 2017, Charles Winston wrote: On May 25, 2017, at 12:26 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Except contains a huge amount of information that cannot currently be input in \chordmode (as far as I know). Ultimately, as long as we end up

Re: SVG icons for use in Frescobaldi

2017-05-25 Thread Urs Liska
This is not only to bump the issue but to add to it. I would like to display icons for openLilyLib packages in Frescobaldi's (WIP) package list (see attached screenshot if this message is actually let through to the list). My idea is to look into the package for an icon and display a default if th

Re: Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 25.05.2017 um 10:51 schrieb Andrew Bernard: > Hi Don, > > You cannot call this 'lock-in' because nobody has forced you to use > lilypond and you have not paid anything for it, and there is no intent > on the part of the lilypond project to capture you and your money. I > am unable to see how t

Re: Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Don, You cannot call this 'lock-in' because nobody has forced you to use lilypond and you have not paid anything for it, and there is no intent on the part of the lilypond project to capture you and your money. I am unable to see how the concept of deliberate commercial 'lock-in' applies to ope

Re: Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread David Kastrup
Don Gingrich writes: > On Thu, 25 May 2017 09:08:35 Richard Shann wrote: >> On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 17:45 +1000, Don Gingrich wrote: >> > If not, then I suggest that this is a "lock-in" similar >> > to that of some of the M$ programs. >> >> There is a crucial difference, you are entitled, indeed,

Re: Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread Don Gingrich
On Thu, 25 May 2017 09:08:35 Richard Shann wrote: > On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 17:45 +1000, Don Gingrich wrote: > > If not, then I suggest that this is a "lock-in" similar > > to that of some of the M$ programs. > > There is a crucial difference, you are entitled, indeed, encouraged to > write such an

Re: Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread Richard Shann
On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 17:45 +1000, Don Gingrich wrote: > If not, then I suggest that this is a "lock-in" similar > to that of some of the M$ programs. There is a crucial difference, you are entitled, indeed, encouraged to write such an exporter. Richard _

Re: Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 25.05.2017 um 09:45 schrieb Don Gingrich: > I've been looking and looking and I cannot > find any useful references to export file > formats from LilyPond. That's not completely true (see below) > > Now, I will agree that LilyPond's PDF output > is very good looking and is actually my prefer

Export to ?????

2017-05-25 Thread Don Gingrich
I've been looking and looking and I cannot find any useful references to export file formats from LilyPond. Now, I will agree that LilyPond's PDF output is very good looking and is actually my preferred sheet music, But the sad reality it that there are people who do exist who use tools other tha

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-25 Thread David Kastrup
msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca writes: > On Wed, 24 May 2017, Simon Albrecht wrote: >> > This is one reason that putting advertising for the LilyPond Web >> > site in every PDF document by default may not be such a great idea. >> > It makes LilyPond appear to have a meaningful connection with the >> > c