Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 3/26/21, 5:41 PM, "lilypond-user on behalf of Valentin Petzel" wrote: Your points about beaming and grouping are reasonable, but the idea is not replacing tuplet with such a notation, but making such notation easier. And there are many cases where the default grouping

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Petzel writes: > I’m not really sure why you’d call it invasive. It would change > nothing about the way Lilypond works, but just add power to the input > language. The input language is a comparatively direct representation of the music expressions, so you are not adding power to the

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Valentin Petzel
I’m not really sure why you’d call it invasive. It would change nothing about the way Lilypond works, but just add power to the input language. Your points about beaming and grouping are reasonable, but the idea is not replacing tuplet with such a notation, but making such notation easier. And

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Christian Masser writes: > Hi David! > > Fully understanding that you would probably be the one that would > (have or not have to) implement this mess, No, that isn't it. I am not really all that conservative: there have been loads of stuff I squeezed into the existing syntax, usually trying

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Christian Masser
Hi David! Fully understanding that you would probably be the one that would (have or not have to) implement this mess, instead of trying to answer every single question you asked, I'd like to make a technical proposal of how those notes could be rendered. (And just for context: I very well

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Martinrinconbotero
> Things like these should be easy in Lilypond, considering it's sheer > flexibility and hackability. And if I were a composer writing in 5/6, > i would probably be happy if I could just write "c2 d6 e6 |". Except when it wouldn’t be easy to notate

Re: musicxml2ly problem as of 2.20.0

2021-03-26 Thread Jacques Menu
Calling lilypond same the way doesn’t solve the original issue, though: /Applications/LilyPond-2.22.0-1.app/Contents/Re sources/bin/lilypond dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib/libintl.8.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/LilyPond-2.22.0-1.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond

Re: musicxml2ly problem as of 2.20.0

2021-03-26 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Jean, Thanks a lot, that idea didn’t come to me, and it works fine. Thanks for the workaround! JM > Le 26 mars 2021 à 18:09, Jean Abou Samra a écrit : > > Doesn't ring any bell here :-( Any Mac OS experts out there? > > > And, what happens if you run >

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Christian Masser writes: > Just adding my two cents to this debate. In my humble opinion it's pretty > clear what "12" in this context means as Lilypond's syntax is always about > the divisor. c4 is always a quarter of a whole note. Therefore c12 would > always be a twelth of a whole note, thus

Re: Renaissance guitar tablature issues (previously was next issue with renaissance guitar tablature - lines representing sustained notes)

2021-03-26 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
If anyone is going to attempt to create a function or engraver for adding those slashes automatically there is a thread Urs started last summer about Indicating duration with lines where there might be some code worth reusing for this. > 26 mars 2021 kl. 21:01 skrev Jean Abou Samra : > >

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Christian Masser
Just adding my two cents to this debate. In my humble opinion it's pretty clear what "12" in this context means as Lilypond's syntax is always about the divisor. c4 is always a quarter of a whole note. Therefore c12 would always be a twelth of a whole note, thus a third of a quarter note. And c7

Re: Wavy lines - contemporary notation

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 26/03/2021 à 20:57, Rachel Green a écrit : How can I create a wavy line as in this picture? Best, Rachel \relative c   {   \time 6/4   \clef C   \override NoteHead.style = #'harmonic   c’1 r4 r4   } Something like this? \version "2.23.2" mySquiggle = \tweak parent-alignment-X #RIGHT

Re: Wavy lines - contemporary notation

2021-03-26 Thread Karlin High
On 3/26/2021 2:57 PM, Rachel Green wrote: How can I create a wavy line as in this picture? A past post with code for a "Decaying squiggle" might be a starting point. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA

Re: Renaissance guitar tablature issues (previously was next issue with renaissance guitar tablature - lines representing sustained notes)

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Hello, Le 26/03/2021 à 15:23, bart deruyter a écrit : Hey, - thanks for the idea, but after some thought, I'm afraid it won't work. Glissandi don't seem to be the right tool anyway since in the regular staff I'd have to hide it, and when I'd need a real 'glissando' as glissando, I'd have

Wavy lines - contemporary notation

2021-03-26 Thread Rachel Green
How can I create a wavy line as in this picture? Best, Rachel \relative c { \time 6/4 \clef C \override NoteHead.style = #'harmonic c’1 r4 r4 } Scan Mar 26, 2022.pdf Description: Scan Mar 26, 2022.pdf

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Kevin Barry writes: > I think the convenience of this feature does not justify the added > complexity. It's mostly the conceptual vagueness that is the problem here. There are no actual note values corresponding graphically to the input in an unambiguous manner, so LilyPond would need to do

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Kevin Barry
I think the convenience of this feature does not justify the added complexity. Kevin

Re: musicxml2ly problem as of 2.20.0

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 26/03/2021 à 17:57, Jacques Menu a écrit : Hello Jean, I get the same problem with 2.22.0-1: The version of Python that comes in the bundle is: *menu@macbookprojm*: /Applications/LilyPond-2.22.0-1.app/Contents/Resources/bin > ls -sal python*    0 lrwxr-xr-x@ 1 menu  admin       45 Jan

Re: musicxml2ly problem as of 2.20.0

2021-03-26 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Jean, I get the same problem with 2.22.0-1: The version of Python that comes in the bundle is: menu@macbookprojm: /Applications/LilyPond-2.22.0-1.app/Contents/Resources/bin > ls -sal python* 0 lrwxr-xr-x@ 1 menu admin 45 Jan 10 15:49 python3 ->

Re: musicxml2ly problem as of 2.20.0

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 26/03/2021 à 17:28, Jacques Menu a écrit : Hello folks, I have the following version: menu@macbookprojm: ~/libmusicxml-git/soundnotation/Beispiel1 > lilypond -v GNU LilyPond 2.20.0 Copyright (c) 1996--2015 by Han-Wen Nienhuys Jan Nieuwenhuizen and others. This program is free

musicxml2ly problem as of 2.20.0

2021-03-26 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello folks, I have the following version: menu@macbookprojm: ~/libmusicxml-git/soundnotation/Beispiel1 > lilypond -v GNU LilyPond 2.20.0 Copyright (c) 1996--2015 by Han-Wen Nienhuys Jan Nieuwenhuizen and others. This program is free software. It is covered by the GNU General Public

Renaissance guitar tablature issues (previously was next issue with renaissance guitar tablature - lines representing sustained notes)

2021-03-26 Thread bart deruyter
Hey, - thanks for the idea, but after some thought, I'm afraid it won't work. Glissandi don't seem to be the right tool anyway since in the regular staff I'd have to hide it, and when I'd need a real 'glissando' as glissando, I'd have to unhide it. I'm sure it would end up being a real mess,

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 26/03/2021 à 14:26, Jean Abou Samra a écrit : Le 26/03/2021 à 12:43, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 for 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 and so on. LilyPond is a notation program first, and your

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 26/03/2021 à 12:43, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 for 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 and so on. LilyPond is a notation program first, and your proposal does not map to notation since tuplets also

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Hello! Currently Lilypond only supports powers of 2 for specifying duration. Could we use the other numbers for common divisions? For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 for 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 and so on. This would be quite

Re: Issue with repeat tremolo

2021-03-26 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
Sorry for the noise. I had taken a similar approach following a snippet in the documentation, that uses \voiceOne and \voiceTwo. Simply removing those two commands works perfectly. On mar. 26 2021, at 12:02 pm, Martín Rincón Botero wrote: > I was trying several things with gap-count to see if

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 >>> for 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 >>> and so on. >> >> LilyPond is a notation program first, and your proposal does not map >> to notation since tuplets also involve

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 >> for 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 >> and so on. > > LilyPond is a notation program first, and your proposal does not map > to notation since tuplets also involve choices of beaming and >

Re: Issue with repeat tremolo

2021-03-26 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
I was trying several things with gap-count to see if it affected it in any way (it doesn't) and forgot to remove the \revert command. I paste it again without it. \version "2.20.0" \context PianoStaff = "pianostaff" << \context Staff = "RHStaff" { \repeat tremolo 8 { \voiceOne 32 \ottava 0 {

Issue with repeat tremolo

2021-03-26 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
Hello all, it seems I stumbled with this bug https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/2383. The following code produces error messages (sorry, in Spanish) and bad output: \version "2.20.0" \context PianoStaff = "pianostaff" << \context Staff = "RHStaff" { \repeat tremolo 8 { \voiceOne 32

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Petzel writes: > Hello! > > Currently Lilypond only supports powers of 2 for specifying > duration. Could we use the other numbers for common divisions? > > For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 for > 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets, Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Werner, I just suggested these value as this seems to be what is commonly found with music (and it is rhythmically viable nontheless). Basically we’re rounding a division to the nearest power of 2 (it does not make a lot of sense to use 7 4th notes or something like 15 8th notes for such

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread ebenezer
Hello, Does \scaleDurations not already fit the bill? See the section "Scaling durations" at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation-big-page On 2021-03-26 02:19, Valentin Petzel wrote: Hello! Currently Lilypond only supports powers of 2 for specifying duration. Could we use

Re: Default markup text fontsize

2021-03-26 Thread Robert Schmaus
Aha, I see now what I did wrong .. I used \set instead of \override ... > On 25. Mar 2021, at 21:20, Valentin Petzel wrote: > > Okay, can you check if this works on your installation? > > Am Donnerstag, 25. März 2021, 21:00:13 CET schrieb Robert Schmaus: >> That’s what I thought too at first.

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets,Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Currently Lilypond only supports powers of 2 for specifying > duration. Could we use the other numbers for common divisions? > > For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 > for 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 > and so on. > > This would