It's more subtle than that. LYEDITOR is heeded but EDITOR is not. I'd wager
that's a bug.
But the plot thickens now. Running evince from the terminal, it at least
tries to use gvim via LYEDITOR. If I run the PDF from Nautilus, the GNOME
file viewer, nothing happens. Somehow Nautilus is unable to
Current progress. Perhaps I have hit a bug on Debian 9, hence the bonkers
inducing behaviour. Using EDITOR has no effect. But if I set LYEDITOR to
use gvim, it nearly works. This makes no sense to me.
Here's what I have for LYEDITOR, based on the NR:
export LYEDITOR='gvim --remote
27 on Debian, whose official version is 24. Just maybe.]
Andrew
On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 at 18:34, Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> Well now I am officially going nuts. I used Frescobaldi for years until it
> recently slowed down to unacceptably ling editor response times (tens of
> seconds to
Hi Pang,
This won't help for MIDI, as has been pointed out, but you did not specify
that.
Here's my function for metronome marks, which allows you to use notes in
them. I have a whole bunch of related functions, some with boxes, some with
additional text parameters and so on. You can obviously
Well now I am officially going nuts. I used Frescobaldi for years until it
recently slowed down to unacceptably ling editor response times (tens of
seconds to position the cursor, in only 20 pages of code). This was
discussed on the list. Not yet resolved. Needs work.
So I happily moved over to
Hi Richard,
This came up in relation to something I was doing only a week or so ago.
Have a look here:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2019-02/msg00297.html
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Solved. It's right-broken-padding set to false that does the trick.
\override TextSpanner.bound-details.right-broken.padding = ##f
\override TextSpanner.bound-details.right.padding = #11
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Is the proper answer to this LSR 954? If so, how could one put the text at
the start and the end, not in the middle? And change the line style to
dashed or different?
Andrew
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I am attempting to use a text spanner as an indicator for a repeated
section. I need it to stop at the barline, and not on the next note.
Shortening it by using padding on the right affects the first line as well,
which is not wanted. How does one do this properly?
And my usual question, is there
Hi Lukas,
Works like a charm.
Andrew
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 at 23:57, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:
>
> Applying \general-align #Y #CENTER to the associated text (not to the
> brackets) seems to me to yield best results. Does this help you?
>
>
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Thanks Werner,
In the current case, it's just for a text preface, so it should be alright.
It's a fascinating area. I have learned a lot today.
Andrew
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 21:54, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> ... please be aware that Unicode characters U+Exxx are from the
> Private Use Area
Hello Werner,
My requirement now solved: I downloaded a redistributable of the SMuFL font
Bravura from the official github repo. It has more accidentals than I
dreamed of existing. The lilypond ones are 'Stein-Zimmerman' (whatever that
is!) and semisharp and semiflat are U+E280 and U+E282.
Hi Werner,
Thanks for all this really precious information. Noto Sans is really good.
But I am barking up the wrong tree it appears to me. Symbola and Noto Sans
cover this Unicode block, but the semisharp is the form of a sharp with a 4
for quartersharp. I was hoping to find the symbol I use,
Hi Werner,
Circular meaning implying the existence of something already that I don't
have. Because you said you just ran emacs and looked. I found it is part of
Suse. Thanks.
I am looking at Symbola, but 1D132 is a very small sharp with a 4, which is
valid, but not the normal lilypond semisharp
HI Werner,
This is all great, but isn't it a bit circular? I run emacs 27.0.50 on
Debian 9. I don't have the Musica font you refer to, and it's not built in.
Could you tell me where you got that from?
Andrew
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 17:29, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>
> In Emacs, move the cursor to
.script-priority = #0
a''4\1\upbowAcb
a8^.\2\upbowAcb
s8
\bar "."
}
\score {
\new Staff { \treble }
\layout {}
}
%=
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 14:32, Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> Is my problem that this is a markup and not a proper articulation?
>
>
Is my problem that this is a markup and not a proper articulation?
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Hi Abraham,
I was in fact using markup, so this answer is excellent, and I eventually
found \semisharp. But it actually came up when I wanted to use a semisharp
in a text document, and I was surprised to find that although defined as
Unicode 1D132, no font that I can find has a glyph at that code
More work on this. I have made a first approximation to this more boldened
upbow using markup paths. I am happy with this, but there is something
missing. We use a lot of extended stems (eccentric yes, but that's how the
style is for this work). For my new upbow something goes wrong with the
For my work, the default upbow and downbow markings are OK, and standard,
yes I know, but we want something more along the gutsier style of Boosey &
Hawkes, as for example in the Bartok String Quartet 3, image attached. The
upbow is much more masculine, and italicized compared to the spindly thin
Is there any way to instruct lilypond to always place accents above a note
first, and then blowing marks? They are all Scripts. I am fully aware of
LSR 447 and 965 but I have thousands and I don't want to \tweak each one.
LSR 255 does not seem to apply, for some reason. If I specify string number
Thank you Pierre. That also solves my problem in my code where these is too
much space between the letter and the semisharp.
Appreciated!
Andrew
On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 19:14, Pierre Perol-Schneider <
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How about:
>
> {
> dih4
>
OK. I am using it in markup. I found \semisharp, which answers the question.
Now, how to align the semisharp higher here:
{
dih4
^\markup { "D"\semisharp }
}
Andrew
On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 17:22, Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> I need to use the quarter tone sharp symbol
I need to use the quarter tone sharp symbol in text. Does anybody know of
any font that supports this? The Unicode is 1D132.
Andrew
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Hi Ralph,
Thanks for this. I came up with the same thing. But, my score is very
tight, and grace notes take up space and tend to push positioning around. I
was hoping there may be a solution with some sort of note head engraver for
putting accents on notes. I think Nicholas Sceaux did something
There was a question identical to this asked in 2017 with not a reply.
To indicate string playing portamento, my composer uses a small glissando
line coming up to the note, not attached to any previous note. What's the
best way to do this? Can it be achieved with using hidden grace notes
(which
What's the way to align the brackets here rendered as markup paths with the
centre of the associated text, without hardcoding numbers. Is there a
self-alignment-y property or similar?
I may change the size of the font, and the length and shape of the
brackets, so I am after something generic.
Hi Harm,
This is great. It locates unterminated glissandi, but in my case it was
just stupidity - they were at the end of the score with no note following.
This amazing code of yours does not, in my setting at least, locate or
catch the 'programming error: overwriting glissando' issue.
Thanks so
should I look
for?
Andrew
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 23:01, Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> I get this:
>
> programming error: overwriting glissando
> continuing, cross fingers
> warning: unterminated glissando
> warning: unterminated glissando
> Preprocess
I get this:
programming error: overwriting glissando
continuing, cross fingers
warning: unterminated glissando
warning: unterminated glissando
Preprocessing graphical objects..
What does this mean actually? How can a glissando be unterminated - surely
it connects to the next available note. I
Hi Pierre,
Marvellous. Works nicely in a quick try out. I'll put it to industrial use
test it further.
This is one of those functions that would be good as a snippet on LSR.
Andrew
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I want to have markup such as ST over the clefs at the start of each page
in a section of the string quartet I am doing. This is to indicate ongoing
ST technique over extended sections, as a reminder to the player. Clefs
don't appear to support markup. Rehearsal marks would be fine, but I only
get
Back up again. Perhaps a network outage somewhere between Australia way
down here and the archive.
Thanks all!
a
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I know that one - that's not it.
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 11:51, Kieren MacMillan <
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
> I have noticed in the past that once a search is done, you can’t trigger a
> new search from the "Namazu" [result] page; instead, you must return to the
> initial page
Anything I search for here at the archives produces n9o results:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/
Is the archive system down?
I tried three different browsers on two different computers.
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Hello All,
Didn't this come up in 2015 on the list here:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-06/msg00168.html
Is it that the Ubuntu lilypond is broken (still)?
FWIW though, on my pristine Ubuntu 18.10, clicking the PDF just does
nothing. nada. All works great on Debian 9.
Hi David,
I set this up on Ubuntu 18.10 (no 18.04 left on my machines, sorry) and
although I do not get error messages from Document Viewer, emacs is not
invoked. So, not working for me, but in a different way.
Each to his own, and there are pros and cons each way, but I eventually
became tired
Hi David,
What version of lilypond are you using?
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Ubuntu Gnome versions:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1065431/how-to-find-current-version-of-gnome-for-ubuntu-18-04-from-internet
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Hi David,
Use the About page in Settings to find out which Gnome version you have.
I upgraded all my 18.04 Ubuntu systems to 18.10, so I can't recall what
Gnome release came with 18.04.
Andrew
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 04:17, David Sumbler wrote:
>
> I couldn't seem to find whether I was
Hi Reggie,
This is just my personal code for a string quartet I am doing, and my use
case may be a little different to normal, as I have to set it all up to be
able to do SP->NAT->SP continuous as well as plain SP->NAT, and ST->NAT,
and so on, so there are more parts to this than just my initial
Thank you everybody for all this help. It's fantastic, many ideas here, and
I have learned so much. All good!
Andrew
On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 20:45, David Kastrup wrote:
> Andrew Bernard writes:
>
> > Hi David,
> >
> > Really great advice and useful to know. However, I h
Hello Andrew,
Why are quartertones technically wrong?
My current string quartet is full of them. String players can do them just
fine.
Andrew
On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 21:46, N. Andrew Walsh
wrote:
>
> (And yes, I know quartertones are technically wrong.
>
Hi David,
Really great advice and useful to know. However, I have a long section run
of spanners for sul ponticello to natural. I did'nt want to tweak every
occurrence for literally a hundred times, or call a function for each
spanner each time. So it's kind of 'semi-permanent'.
Andrew
Hello Pierre,
This is helpful. I deduce from this that you can only use revert on
bound-details as a while if you override it as a complete alist to begin
with, not as separate overrides for each sub-property as I had. That's an
important thing to know.
Of course, to revert the other overrides,
I have a text spanner set up nicely to do sul ponticello -> nat. All works
beautifully. But how does one revert the overrides use to achieve this to
go back to a plain text spanner without undoing each and every line? Can't
you just revert bound-details?
Searching the list archives did not reveal
Hi Craig,
For example:
\version "2.19.82"
{
c''4 \once \override BreathingSign.Y-offset = 4 \breathe
c'' c'' c''
}
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Hi David,
Thanks. Pretty much the same situation here. I was hoping I could change a
margin on the fly - I believe this can be done in TeX. But I iwll ahve to
have a separate book/bookpart/whatever and stitch the score together. This
is simple to do but very inconvenient when I am making lots of
Hi Urs,
Thanks. I have tried this in the past but it's a hack and never looks
right, and this time I have cross page glissandi to deal with as well. Not
an optimal solution.
Andrew
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 06:55, Urs Liska wrote:
>
> Am 04.02.19 um 13:06 schrieb Andrew Bernard:
> >
Hi Saul,
I am trying to avoid shrinking the page. It's already hard enough to read
at the normal size for the rest of the score.
Thanks anyway!
Andrew
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 06:29, Saul Tobin wrote:
> The size reduction for a single system strategy is simple to do within a
> single Lilypond
Hi Aaron,
Thanks for taking so much care with this answer. But there's a problem. The
viola solo in this (New Complexity) score for a quartet is incredibly dense
and fills the whole page to the point that I have to have zero bottom
margin. There's very high ledger notes and very low ones, so that
HI Valentin,
OK. But am I on the right track in general? Seems very complex for a
conceptually simple thing to want to do, so I am concerned I am way out
here.
Andrew
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 22:15, Valentin Villenave
wrote:
> On 2/4/19, Andrew Bernard wrote:
> > So now I can selecti
Partially answering my own question, I now see that the \unset idea does
not work, and you have to reset the keep alive interfaces list to the
initial list. [I got the unset idea from some archive posts.]
So now I can selectively show a stave containing only rests, but what about
one containing
I want to remove some staves containing only rests and yet retain others in
my quartet score. [When there is a long solo I want the other parts
suppressed, but when just one instrument is at rest I want the empty staff
to show in the set of four].
The keepAliveInterface must have something to do
Hi Robert,
You asked to centre the chord, but then if you add barline offset it's not
centred, so I am a bit confused what you mean. although the picture makes
it clear.
I just wanted to say that there are often times when you really do want to
centre a chord or a rest in a single, especially
HI Chris,
That makes sense. I also like to preserve the composer's own notation where
possible. And as said, it's not actually wrong! Good old Sousa!
Andrew
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 16:43, Christopher R. Maden wrote:
>
> I’m transcribing Sousa’s “A Typical Tune of Zanzibar,”[*] and I’m trying
>
I am doing a long string quartet. The full score sits nicely in the middle
of an A4 landscape page with a generous top margin. But there's a solo
viola part that's very dense and the staves fill out the whole page very
tightly right to the bottom, and it looks clumsy because there is lots of
space
Hi Christopher,
This comes up reasonably often. May I ask why you don't simply start the
piece with the treble clef? If you immediately change to treble, what is
the point of having the bass clef at this point? It's a musical decision up
to you, but it always strikes me as a bit unnecessary. Any
Hi David,
Thanks very much for this. In this case, I was simply over-tired!
All the best!
Andrew
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Oh. Stupid. Working too hard! I neglected to realise the grace note time
value sets the value for the next note where it was not specified, as I
added in the grace afterwards.
Many apologies for some particularly stupid noise. How I wish we could
delete posts sometimes.
Andrew
Adding the grace note in this bar cause ca bar check error and pushes it
out. For as long as I have lived grace notes take no time. What am I
missing? Must be working too hard!
Andrew
%
\version "2.19.82"
treble = {
\time 1/4
aih'16^-^>_\sfz \tuplet 3/2 {
f'([ d'')
\grace gis8
Hi Urs,
I'd be happy to do the Berg, as I am doing string quartet engraving at the
moment, so I am all set up. How much music do you need?
Andrew
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Hi Urs,
Speaking as a harpsichord player myself, can we not have Bach on the piano
please? Keyboard will do fine.
We take so much care to be precise in engraving and notation and such
topics, let's keep the musicology at a similar high standard. Sorry, this
is a major peeve of mine, and ignores
Hi Ben,
In all this time I never noticed that! I'm indebted to you.
Andrew
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 10:04, Ben wrote:
>
> Yes, you can change the music view paper yellow color here:
>
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Can it be changed (the Music View, not the editor window)?
I prefer white, not the paper yellow. I have never found an option for this
in F.
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Hi Klaus,
Look up grob in the Notation Reference index.
grob
LilyPond objects which represent items of notation in the printed output
such as note heads, stems, slurs, ties, fingering, clefs, etc are called
‘Layout objects’, often known as ‘GRaphical OBjects’, or grobs for short.
They are
Hi Caio,
For 2.19.82 refer to Section 4.1.1 Configuruing the system. It explains
what to do to enable point and click from the PDF viewer program, and how
to set the EDITOR variable to make emacs go to the right line and column. I
don't think it says it there and assumes you know what you are
most prepress then goes straight to press without intermediary.
Andrew
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 00:04, wrote:
> Andrew Bernard:
> > Are the prints for repro. or for handling?
>
> Aren't all prints "handled" ?
>
>
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> On Mon, 28 Jan 2019, 18:18 Andrew Bernard
>> Hello Federico,
>>
>> Thanks for the input. Current score is only ten pages of string quartet
>> music. Complex yes, but not vast. It suddenly stated after a Debian 9
>> update.
>>
>> I love Frescobaldi, b
Let's hear more from the OP.
Are the prints for repro. or for handling?
Andrew
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 21:45, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> Uh, the resolution is where it aims, not where it hits and the ink
> spreads out. And of course the result is a lot less resistant against
> eventual
o dom 27 gen 2019 alle 1:58, Andrew Bernard
> > ha scritto:
> >> But since an upgrade to Debian 9 and as the complexity of my current
> >> score increases, F. has slowed down to a molasses like rate and has
> >> sadly become unusable.
> >
> > Are you s
Hello Federico,
Thanks for the input. Current score is only ten pages of string quartet
music. Complex yes, but not vast. It suddenly stated after a Debian 9
update.
I love Frescobaldi, but the very sluggish response now of the text editor
is unusable, and I have had to abandon it for Emacs.
Hi Folks,
The Epson P800 has nine tanks (oneupmanship!) including a _matte black_ ink
tank, and an eight channel printhead. Resolution is up to 2880 x 1400 dpi,
so I can't see how there could be a problem printing sharp lines.
Not double sided, but unless the OP tells us more about his budget,
Hi Karl,
Spaeking as a former IT Consultant, the first thing one generally needs to
know before being able to help a client is your projected budget. Otherwise
it's hard to know if you want a Heidelberg press or a desktop inkjet. Let
us know.
I am unable to understand why you need to print
Hi Karl,
Can I ask why you don't use matte paper?
Andrew
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Thanks David!
Interestingly, the following line appears in the lilypond mode elisp:
lilypond-mode.el:;;; Inspired on auctex
Andrew
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 12:11, David Kastrup wrote:
>
>
> You wouldn't want it to try. Really, somebody™ should rewrite Emacs'
> LilyPond support using some of
Frescobaldi has a great formatting function that indents all the code very
nicely and nearly flawlessly.
But since an upgrade to Debian 9 and as the complexity of my current score
increases, F. has slowed down to a molasses like rate and has sadly become
unusable. [I have never seen that before
Jan 2019 at 23:32, Aaron Hill wrote:
> On 2019-01-25 3:36 am, Andrew Bernard wrote:
> > Do TextSpanners support shorten-pair?
> >
> > The NR for 2.19.82 says:
> >
> > shorten-pair (pair of numbers)
> > The lengths to shorten on both sides a hairpin or text-
Do TextSpanners support shorten-pair?
The NR for 2.19.82 says:
shorten-pair (pair of numbers)
The lengths to shorten on both sides a hairpin or text-spanner such as a
pedal bracket. Positive values shorten the hairpin or text-spanner, while
negative values lengthen it.
This does not work:
What is the best way to add flags and options to the lilypond compile
command in the emacs lilypond mode?
Also, regarding the failure to widen the buffer after the narrowing that
takes place in certain cases, I see in the archives the suggestion to wrap
the instances of narrow-to-region in a
Thanks so much David and off list repliers.
I'm deeply grateful for the generous help on this amazing list.
Here's what works nicely:
\version "2.19.82"
harmonicNote =
\tweak NoteHead.stencil #ly:text-interface::print
\tweak NoteHead.font-size #1
\tweak NoteHead.text #(markup #:musicglyph
Hi Andrew,
I was anticipating this coming up immediately after the OP question. I was
looking at Smufl and there is a whole page of specialist harp symbols. I
imagine people would want all of those if they want the muffle.
I don;'t know enough to say how one would gp about proving them, and
I have many chords where a note is a harmonic. I use the following for the
note inside the chord:
\tweak NoteHead.stencil #ly:text-interface::print
\tweak NoteHead.font-size #1
\tweak NoteHead.text #(markup #:musicglyph "noteheads.s0mi")
How can I make this into what I am tempted to call
I'd like to try to use Atom with point and click from lilypond PDF output.
What would one set LYEDITOR to to achieve this?
As a long term emacs user, my affections are beginning to be swayed by
Atom. A nice editor and improving all the time.
Andrew
Valentin,
Thanks so much! Works great.
For some reason the use of extra-spacing-width has never penetrated my
cranium.
Andrew
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 18:27, Valentin Villenave
wrote:
>
> Isn’t that just a matter of
> \override Staff.Clef.extra-spacing-width = #'(-1 . 0)
> ? (and it should
In my very dense quartet score, I encounter the issue shown in the image
here where the clef is too tight. What is the magical incantation out of
the space-alist spell box to address this? [Another section of the IR I
find hard to understand, especially as that section says it's more
complicated
Hi Saul,
Thanks, but you missed the point, sorry. There's a thread about the
\espressivo mark <> and how to adjust it. That's what I am referring to,
not the text word 'espressivo'.
Dynamics are different to Script, which is what \espressivo is. I am
wanting to snug up and align a 'p' and '<>'
Hi Rachel,
Could you accept a coda symbol? Then something like this can be done:
%==
\version "2.19.82"
treble = {
c''4
}
bass = {
\clef bass
\once \override Script.outside-staff-priority = ##f
\once \override Script.Y-offset = 6
c4_\coda
}
\score {
<<
\new Staff {
There's a Unicode symbol for this somewhere. I'll find it.
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 16:53, Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> Hi Rachel,
>
> Could you accept a coda symbol? Then something like this can be done:
>
> %==
> \version "2.19.82"
>
> treble = {
>
Hi Rachel,
I feel sure this came up on the list a while ago. Try an archive search.
I'm not quite sure what keywords would work. Others may remember who were
in on that thread.
Andrew
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 16:10, Rachel Knight wrote:
> How would I create this harp muffle symbol and place
HI Ming,
A usage problem. Read the NR section 1.3.3 Expressive Marks as Lines and
see the section Arpeggio. You will immediately see what's wrong.
Andrew
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 23:27, MING TSANG wrote:
>
> I coded arpeggio variant and is not working. Am I use them wrongly?
>
> \version
Hi All,
Now that we have a great espressivoII function, I want to put a dynamic
next to the espressivo, on the left, at the same level. How do we do this?
This is not specific to expressivo - how does one line up a dynamic and a
script on the same horizontal level and snugged up to each other?
Hi Aaron,
This is excellent. Highly useful for me.
In order to disseminate this, I believe it should go in openlilylib. That's
better in my view than a snippet because then you can include the actual
code in your project. I'd be happy to format it all up and code it
according to the standard for
and
they want a mile!
Andrew
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 11:59, Ben wrote:
> On 1/22/2019 7:45 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote:
>
> What is the current best practice for scaling espressivo indicators,
> making them longer?
>
> There's a scale function in the archives from
Hi Aaron,
This would be great to go in the openlilylib library when ready, Thanks for
your help. I am sure that once available, many people will use this. It can
go alongside my pedal decoration code there (down with the help of several
others). Pedals have been somewhat neglected in lilypond,
What is the current best practice for scaling espressivo indicators, making
them longer?
There's a scale function in the archives from Harm, but I wonder if there
is a mechanism built in to 2.19.82 and so on?
Andrew
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Hi Giammaria,
No, it's a valid English word!
Andrew
On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 19:58, Gianmaria Lari
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> P.S. To Andrew: well as you saw my english it's pretty imprecise. So if
> you will be patient from me you will teach a lot of new words
>
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Hi Gianmaria,
I am indebted to you for introducing me to the word escamotage. I have
never heard it before!
Andrew
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Mea culpa.
It's built in to 2.19.82.
Apologies for the noise.
Andrew
On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 12:52, Andrew Bernard
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> But it's a very large chunk of Scheme for a relatively small matter, yet
> another bit of complex code to look after locally. Is this functionalit
LSR 745 does a nice job of providing for complex compound meter time
signatures.
But it's a very large chunk of Scheme for a relatively small matter, yet
another bit of complex code to look after locally. Is this functionality
built in to lilypond by now?
Andrew
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