Mike Solomon wrote
> If lilypond.org were to propose multiple development versions (say 5
> instead of 1), each offering a different set of experimental features
> (including the canonical development version), and if lilypond.org offered
> information on which versions were in need of testing by w
Urs Liska wrote
> Step out of the dark and tell the world what we do!
I use LilyPond for alternative music notation systems like Clairnote:
http://clairnote.org/
http://clairnote.org/sheet-music/
and TwinNote (which was my previous focus):
http://clairnote.org/twinnote/
http://clairnote.org/twinn
SoundsFromSound wrote
> I wonder how the [Gittip] system works and how effective it could be for
> FLOSS development.
I have been keeping my eye on Gittip. It's basically a tool that lets
individuals make ongoing weekly payments to other individuals (or
organizations) to support whatever work the
Looks like David beat me to it with a more elegant approach.
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If I understand you correctly, you could use "cond" as shown below, and use
your other arguments in place of "SYSTEM" or "STAFF".
HTH,
-Paul
\version "2.17.95"
foo = #(define-music-function( P L arg )
(string?)
(cond
((equal? arg "system")
#{
\
safvet wrote
> Can someone give me a pointer as to how to install musicxml2ly on a Mac,
> and how to execute same? I have looked at the usage.pdf, but I can't find
> installation instructions.
Hi, musicxml2ly is actually included as part of the LilyPond.app that you
download from the LilyPond web
Hi all,
While figuring out how to use non-standard clef definitions, I found this
snippet:
"Using non-standard clef positions and adding customized clef definitions"
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=401
But it seems outdated as it doesn't use the "add-new-clef" function. So I've
created a
Paul Morris wrote
> However, I think you could put these definitions at the beginning of
> 'mymusic' and tag them, and then use the tag to include or exclude the
> definitions depending on which clefs you wanted. (Then you'd only have to
> use tags in one place rather
Urs Liska wrote
> I didn't really follow this thread, but wouldn't the following be
> possible?
>
> music = {
> Some music }
>
> trad = { \music }
>
> custom = {
> custom-clef-definition
> \music
> }
Hi Urs, Thanks for the thought, but it seems this won't work. Adding
either a new or ch
David Kastrup wrote
> Paul Morris <
> paul@
> > writes:
>
>> Currently you have to make changes in the music (the content) for
>> custom clefs to work, whether that's defining a new clef with a
>> non-standard name,
>
> A definition of a new c
David Kastrup wrote
> I don't understand the problem. I have no clue what you are trying to
> achieve and why. You want some clefs to print different clefs than
> asked for when in a different staff. Why?
Ok, sounds like my examples were too tiny to make things clear. The custom
staves I'm wor
dak wrote
> Paul Morris <
> paul@
> > writes:
>
>> Ideally the way to handle this *very* *very* marginal issue, would be
>> to have the default settings for middleCPosition and clefPosition for
>> each kind of clef, loaded at the staff level for each s
Below is my attempt to use a custom engraver to set custom clef settings but
only when the clefs appear in a particular custom staff context.
It doesn't quite work since the setting changes take effect too late. The
first note after the new clef is placed on the staff before the change to
"m
Hi everyone,
Say you have a custom staff that needs custom settings for each of the
different clefs, namely "middleCPosition" to put the notes on the right lines
and spaces, and "clefPosition" to put the clef in the right vertical position.
You can put these settings into a variable and use th
Bric wrote
> So... this is all quite amazing and powerful.But the interplay
> between the multiplicity of notes, and the singularity of "\markup" is
> something to finesse further.
So far we're just adding a markup before or after the whole string of music
we're passing to the music function
Davide Liessi-2 wrote
> I'm pleased to announce that Frescobaldi and python-poppler-qt4 have been
> included in MacPorts!
Congrats Davide! This is great news. Thanks for all your work on this. I
successfully completed a frescobaldi-devel install from MacPorts using your
helpful guide.
The onl
Bric wrote
> So, can one throw in conditionals?
>
> (1) Can one, for instance, check/manifest the pitch and duration of
> '#the-music' ? And based on those values are, write something or not?
>
> (2) And how DOES one write something extra? For example, add a note, or
> add a \markup (again,
Bric wrote
> but none of them work. Obviously, I don't know where scheme ends and
> lilypond code begins, in the above, and I don't even know scheme that
> well. (By the way, I think I read the relevant parts of the
> documentation, as much as I could find. I couldn't find stuff on this
> l
Urs Liska wrote
> The issue is that the LSR file is written for 2.14, and the syntax has
> changed in the meantime: \markuplines is now \markuplist.
> That's what David is referring to with his advice to use convert-ly.
The only indication that I could find on the LSR site that the snippets are
f
David Kastrup wrote
> Minimally simpler:
>
> revertboo = \undo \boo
Thanks David! Those are nice improvements to know. I looked up \undo and
\temporary to better familiarize myself with them. Here they are in the
docs for anyone interested:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation
Paul Morris wrote
> \version "2.17.29"
>
> boo = { \override NoteHead.color = #red }
> revertboo = { \revert NoteHead.color }
>
> { a' \boo dis' e' fis' g \revertboo b }
And this can even be simplified to this:
\version "2.17.29"
Bric wrote
> I want the ability to distribute the effect of "\boo" to a SET of notes.
>
> Such as \boo { dis' e' fis' g' }
>
> where all the four notes are affected by boo.
>
> I tried using
>
> boo = { \override NoteHead.color = #red }
>
> and then \boo dis' e' fis' g \revert
>
> but th
David Kastrup wrote
> Uh, we do have a manual that can be edited, improved, and evolve over time
> with different versions of LilyPond...
Right, but formal documentation is not the same as more informal
Q&A/support, and they have different levels of editing
accessibility/difficulty and quality exp
janek.lilypond wrote
> Q&A sites like StackExchange are better for sharing Q&A knowledge than
> mailing lists because they allow to edit information, update it,
> remove duplicates, and make order.
I think this is a good point. The mailing list is sufficient and fine, but
it's probably not opti
Carl Sorensen-3 wrote
> (map (lambda (x) (cdr x)) (delete (list 'closepath) commandlist))
>
> should be able to be replaced by
>
> (map cdr (delete (list 'closepath) commandlist))
Yes indeed, good point!
Thanks,
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On Oct 28, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote:
> I haven't tried to rewrite your code, but when I first learned Scheme I
> was told that anytime you saw lots of set! expressions in the code, you
> were trying to write procedural code (I.e. c) instead of functional code
> (Scheme). Your code
David Kastrup wrote
> "De-bug" means removing bugs.
I agree with David here. Having bugs implies something is broken and
doesn't work, not just that the layout is not exactly what you'd want (which
is always somewhat subjective).
"Janek Warchol wrote
> Note that what we're talking about here
Carl Sorensen-3 wrote
> Cool idea!
Thanks!
>>- allow "unconnected" paths with multiple segments. (i.e. allow (r)moveto
>>in the middle of the path expression)
>
> Seems to allow simplification of complex stencils.
Indeed, it lets you put things where you want them in the first place, both
in r
Hi David N,
David Nalesnik-2 wrote
> Thank you for posting this!
>
> In the process of working on adding niente circles to Ferneyhough hairpins
> (Issue 3357), I noticed that these hairpins don't work with line breaks.
> (They are simply duplicated.) The routine which draws them uses
> make-co
Wilbert Berendsen-4 wrote
> What do you think of a third main mode:
> - Preview mode (just point and click, as it has been)
> - Publish mode (no point and click)
> - Debug mode: this mode listens to the settings in the Debug mode panel.
I think this makes sense. My only suggestion is to consider
Hi all,
While working on a snippet for the "make-connected-path-stencil" function[1] I
got to thinking about whether it would be possible to write a function that
would have all of its benefits but none of its limitations. A function that
would combine the benefits of make-connected-path-ste
Thomas Morley-2 wrote
> many thanks for your snippet.
> It has a very useful description!
Hi Harm,
Glad you like it.
Thomas Morley-2 wrote
> Though, two suggestions:
> 1) I'd rename the note-head-stencil. 'diamond is already taken for a
> note-head-style
> 2) The stem-attachment while using this
Thomas Morley-2 wrote
> There are some snippets using 'path'
> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=path
Indeed, I have found them very helpful!
Thomas Morley-2 wrote
> Would be nice to have one with 'make-connected-path-stencil'
Ok, here we go:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=891
I "d
Thomas Morley-2 wrote
> Why not simply:
>
> \markup \stencil
>#(make-connected-path-stencil
> '((0 2) (2 2))
> 0.1
> 1
> 1
> #f ;; <-- error if set to #t
> #t)
>
> Maybe including the error-log
Sounds good, and good call on using \markup.
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David Kastrup wrote
> Paul Morris <
> paul@
> > writes:
>
>> 2. Setting connect to #t gives this GUILE error (this seems like a bug):
>> Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting empty list): closepath
>
> Try making a report (including example) focu
David Kastrup wrote
> Thomas Morley <
> thomasmorley65@
> > writes:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> 2013/10/20 Paul Morris <
> paul@
> >:
>>> Hi all, I'm trying to use make-connected-path-stencil, but it'
Hi all, I'm trying to use make-connected-path-stencil, but it's not working as
expected, in two ways. Here's a tiny example:
\version "2.17.28"
myStencil =
#(let* ((A 0) (B 1))
(make-connected-path-stencil
'((A B) (B B) (A A)) ;; <-- variables can't be used in pointlist?
Janek Warchoł wrote
> I'd like to hear your opinions. Do you like it? Should it be added
> to official LilyPond distribution?
Looks good to me! Nice work. I'd say yes and yes.
What other "modes of specifying control-points position" do you have in
mind?
Thanks!
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Davide, Thanks for the portfile and the easy to follow guide for it! I
successfully upgraded to the new Frescobaldi 2.0.11 using your portfile for
the first time. It all went smoothly. A big improvement over doing it
manually as I had done it before.
The app bundle is a nice bonus. I just r
Congrats on the release! Props, kudos, and thanks to everyone who
contributes to Frescobaldi, and while I'm at it, LilyPond as well.
The new features look great. I know my eyes are really going to appreciate
the new scheme highlighting! :-) The mac app bundle is a nice bonus.
Cheers,
-Paul
Paul Morris wrote
> I realized it needs to be improved so that it will also handle \breve and
> \longa note durations correctly. I'll include some examples of using the
> "(x11-color 'orange)" style colors to help make it more obvious that
> that's an option.
Onno Zweers wrote
> Would it be an idea to post the code in the snippets database?
Hi Onno, Glad this is working for you. I was thinking I would add it to
the snippet database (LSR). I realized it needs to be improved so that it
will also handle \breve and \longa note durations correctly. I'll
Jacques Menu-2 wrote
> Also, entering the spec data could be done in a GUI window as an
> extension.
I could see this being integrated into Frescobaldi, perhaps?
Nice work, btw!
-Paul
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Eluze wrote
> I don't think LP fails, it's just that the vertical spacing isn't
> corrected with the \staffSize macro (which btw can be simplified to
>
> staffSize = #(define-music-function (parser location new-size) (number?)
> #{
> \set fontSize = #new-size
> \override StaffSymbol #'st
Kevin wrote
> I have searched and searched, but I can't to seem find any documentation
> on the actual file structure, with all the various elements, in one place.
Have you come across this page on "file structure"?
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/file-structure
HTH,
-Paul
Paul Morris wrote
> (Hmmm... this might be something to add to the guide.)
And done.
-Paul
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garrettm30 wrote
> After all of those instructions, I have successfully gotten Frescobaldi to
> launch, but it seems to have trouble pairing with LilyPond. When I go into
> the Preferences -> LilyPond Preferences, and set the "LilyPond version to
> use", I click add, point it to the LilyPond app, a
Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote
> Thanks Paul, your code is much better than the one I was going to put.
> Looks like a Christmas tree :)
Thanks Pierre, and thanks for figuring out how to do the note heads in the
first place! That was a clever solution.
I've made the changes you suggested, and ma
SoundsFromSound wrote
> This is perfect Paul, it's exactly what I need for a project that just
> landed on my desk tonight! Man, you're a SCHEME machine! I'll get there
> someday...right? :)
>
> Thank you so much for sharing that code with us!
Thanks Ben! Glad you can use the code. Sounds like
David Kastrup wrote
> Might make more sense to add it to LilyPond's own snippet base, I guess.
> Obviously, we have no limitations how new any snippets may be there.
Sounds good.
David Kastrup wrote
> Well, I try keeping the global name space uncluttered, but if you see an
> actual potential for
David Kastrup wrote
> Looks fine. \colorizeDir is not actually being used as a tweak here,
> but then that makes pretty little sense anyway.
Ok, I've added it here:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=889
Since it requires 2.17 I had to comment out the whole thing, and add a
single note to get t
Onno Zweers wrote
> One question though. I intend to apply this effect to many different
> lilypond scores. Currently I include a stylesheet.ly from all my
> Lilypond files to produce the colors. It would be great if I could just
> add some code to my stylesheet to get this outline effect, inste
dak wrote
> You can add it wherever you want. I don't see it making any sense as an
> addition to LilyPond proper as it is a rather special use case. It may
> still be nice as a snippet as it is simple, flexible, and powerful. The
> use cases also show \tweak as an internal workhorse for both tw
Hi David and Kieren,
Thank you for the tips! That was fast!
(resending since this message did not show up on the list with my first
attempt...)
Best,
-Paul
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In a text markup, is it possible to make only the first letter of a word bold? I tried using \bold as shown below, but an unwanted space appears after the bold letter. I could probably shift the letters around manually to correct for the space, but is there a better way?Greetings,-Paul\version "2
Oops, I see you're working with the \path markup command rather than the
stencil expression 'path' (which is off in scheme land).
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Hi Ming, I assume you have seen this snippet that documents the use of
\path?
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=623
Here is a website that I've found helpful for figuring out cubic-bezier
curve values:
http://cubic-bezier.com
Good luck! :-)
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Thomas Morley-2 wrote
> Is this really valid code?
Good question. I don't actually know... It does seem odd that a \layout
block can go inside a \midi block like that.
Cheers,
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Hi David,
David Nalesnik-2 wrote
> I've never been able to edit my snippets after they have been approved.
> What you can do is post a new snippet: copy the old one, change it, and
> give it a title like "Defining a Custom Staff Context [corrected]." The
> person who reviews it will then replace
Janek Warchoł wrote
>> Ah, I see over on the dev forum that this is already in the works:
>> https://codereview.appspot.com/13578045/
>
> Indeed. Suggestions on appropriate wording welcome!
Ok, I'll put it on my to-do list and see what I can do, but I don't think
I'll have time for it in the nea
Aha! I think this explains why I get this:
warning: cannot find or create new `StaffTwinNote'
when I use music that includes my custom staff context in a \midi block.
Everything still worked fine, so I did not look further into it before.
I see where the problem lies now, but I don't think
It works in Frescobaldi on a mac. That might be your best bet, and you'd get
all the other great benefits of using Frescobaldi:
http://www.frescobaldi.org/
The downside is that installing it on the mac is not a simple process, but
there is a good guide:
https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/
Here's a discussion of \relative mode:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/learning/simple-notation
"The easiest way to enter notes is by using \relative mode. In this mode,
the octave is chosen automatically by assuming the following note is always
to be placed closest to the previous not
Just FYI, I'm also getting the bug with the "Select a standard chord:" box.
(Click-hold-drag does work, at least on the first time you try it.)
Firefox 24, OSX 10.8
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Very cool and well done! A nice use of LilyPond.
Here are a couple of small suggestions:
- On the results page why not include a sentence about what the red notes
mean? That way the user doesn't have to leave that page to remind
themselves.
- Why not include a tiny link to the .ly source file
On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
> Thank you! Now all I need is more hackers and users/people giving
> feedback, like you :-)
Glad to help. :-)
>> One thing that is counter-intuitive (maybe you're already aware of
>> this), is that selecting a different note duration from
Nice progress on Schikkers list! It seems like it is coming along well.
One thing that is counter-intuitive (maybe you're already aware of this), is
that selecting a different note duration from the palette changes the currently
selected note. My expectation was that it would only apply to n
I have Finale 2007 and it does appear that it will import from Rhapsody. Let
me know if you'd like me to import and export as musicXML.
-Paul
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I was able to successfully install frescobaldi using macports on OSX 10.8. I
had to install XCode for the first time, and I did not run into the error
you're seeing. I don't know how to troubleshoot it.
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I also prefer blog.lilypond.org
But lilypondblog.org would be fine, and it looks like the path of least
resistance and the more likely outcome given the previous discussion.
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Urs Liska wrote
> BTW: How can I read such properties in a Scheme function, i.e. determine
> where we are in a piece when a function is executed?
> I didn't find it in the manual ...
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/extending/object-properties
> says that object properties are st
Using Frescobaldi 2.0.10 (mac), when I paste into a LibreOffice document or
an email message I get the colored text (but not the raw html). I haven't
been able to get the raw html. Pasting into a plain text editor does not do
it.
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> Paul Morris paulwmorris.com> writes:
>
> > > Yes. If you set them to an empty list, the code uses the extents
> > > \override Accidental #'horizontal-skylines = #'()
> >
> > Thanks for the tip. I tried it and the result was that the spa
Yes. If you set them to an empty list, the code uses the extents
\override Accidental #'horizontal-skylines = #'()
Thanks for the tip. I tried it and the result was that the space between the accidentals and notes collapsed:Changing the X-extent settings did not have an effect on the space betw
anging such skyline settings, in general? What is a "pair of skylines" that these settings take? Am I just getting ahead of the documentation here?Rendering the code snippet below in 2.16 and 2.17 shows the difference between them. Thanks in advance for any advice on this!-Paul Morris%% B
Nels Daily wrote
> I am wanting to use different fonts than the default Century Schoolbook.
> Century schoolbook is a naturally large typeface, and the glyphs in
> LilyPond have
> been designed to match it. I want to use other fonts by enlarging the
> default
> document text size without altering t
Andrew Bernard wrote
> As a result of this thread, I have decided the need is there for a
> macports bundle for frescobaldi, one that includes all the dependencies
> with no headaches. This seems to be what people want, short of a Mac GUI
> installed. I'll start in on that project tomorrow.
Thi
data works for a given
case, then it's the safer choice of the two. Thanks for the explanation.
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the function to return a
value, but ly:grob-property-data would not. Is that right?
Thanks again,
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e page requested is not in cache, the
cache engine “captures” the html produced by WordPress and puts it on file."
Phil Holmes wrote:
> However, I honestly don't think it's a case of just asking someone and admin
> being given. As others have said, what about the load on the server?
e page requested is not in cache, the
cache engine “captures” the html produced by WordPress and puts it on file."
Phil Holmes wrote:
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> being given. As others have said, what about the load on the server?
it could be at www.lilypond.org/blog/ on the lilypond.org domain and
to some extent integrated into the main LilyPond website. (i.e. make it
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n be shifted up to avoid a line through the middle of the rest. (However,
on one of the staves they appear in their usual position even though there is
no line to avoid.)
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hank you! This will do the trick.
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the overrides on and off when there
are more than one voice on a staff, at least now this is only needed for rests
that are longer than a whole rest, which do not occur that often.
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I did some experimenting with this snippet:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=638
And I think it might be a good way to convert chromatic note name input to
traditional note name input. No midi conversion required. Here's how it
works:
Add the following two language definitions to: scm/define
ericoschm...@yahoo.com.br wrote
> Sorry for the delay, here's the file i had been doing some testing.
Thanks for posting your file. I now see that re-setting the language like
this
\language english
overwrites the changes that were made by
#(ly:parser-set-note-names parser dodecaPitchNames)
Hmmm, I remember running into the "No module named sip" problem back when I
was trying to install the dependencies manually. When I switched to using
MacPorts I installed python using it (following the instructions on the
Frescobaldi site), which is a step that is not included in Philippe's guide.
flup2 wrote
> I don't "install" it like a Unix program. I just expand the archive in the
> Applications folder. That way, the path to frescobaldi binary looks like:
> /Applications/frescobaldi/frescobaldi (the first "frescobaldi is the
> folder name, the second one is the binary itself).
I've adde
ericoschm...@yahoo.com.br wrote
> And, lets say i get it back to lilypond with the correct pitches
/
> and tritones
/
> , but the notes enharmonically wrong according to the key signature (lets
> say, e flats in a Emaj key, where should be d sharps).
> Doesnt lilypond has an "smart" transpose func
Here's more explanation of the dodecaPitchNames snippet:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=619
This part:
#(ly:parser-set-note-names parser dodecaPitchNames)
Calls dodecaPitchNames, which as I understand it, basically takes something
like this as its input (the default pitchnames list):
purposes of placing
it on the staff, but with a sharp alteration attached.)
This is a completely different way of achieving a chromatic staff than the
"staffLineLayoutFunction" approach that is used in MNP-scripts.ly and
twinnote-scripts.ly. As I mentioned before:
Paul Morris wrote
>
dak wrote
> So in case you are using 2.17.16 or newer, it would be nice if you
> checked that this "first pitch like absolute" rule works even when
> starting with an f sharp.
I gave this a try in 2.17.18 with the test code below, and "first pitch like
absolute" still works even with a default sca
ericoschm...@yahoo.com.br wrote
>>>(Rookie scheme tip: a single quote (') is not the same as a backtick (`).
This tripped me up!)
>
> did i use the wrong one somewhere???
No you're fine, I just got them confused and it took awhile to figure out
what was wrong. So just a cautionary tale for the
ericoschm...@yahoo.com.br wrote
> But i really am confused with those different plataforms for the same
> list:
> nabble, gnu, and mail-archive
> which is the one i should actually be browsing?
I think it's basically just a matter of personal preference. I'm trying out
nabble at the moment.
-Pau
With some help from these snippets:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=784
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=619
I worked out how to redefine the note names, and make the default scale (the
scale that is represented by the staff) a chromatic scale. See the snippet
below. This avoids the in
Paul Morris wrote
> First you'd want to confirm that \relative mode makes its decision about a
> note's octave *after* such an override of a note though.
On second thought, I don't think this approach will work since \relative
mode is on the input side of things and \over
Hi Érico,
Érico Schmitt wrote
> Problem comes when using the \relative mode. Lilypond's octaves in this
> mode
> is based in the diatonic scale, so it will place the next note in the
> closest position possible (a fourth up or down).
>
> If my "fi" note is set as an f#, and i input { do fi }
Urs Liska wrote
> Am Dienstag, den 14.05.2013, 22:14 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup:
>> Derek <
> cushy@
> > writes:
>>
>> > Sorry David, I don't understand what you are trying to say here.
>>
>> Never mind, it was just an attempt at a bad joke.
>>
> I found it really funny. Especially with this
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