Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-04 Thread Alexander Kobel
[repost to -user; I guess the attachments were too large. What's the maximum message size for the mailing list?] On 2010-09-03 10:47, Werner LEMBERG wrote: will font's hyphen be acceptable for lyrics as a _minimally_ acceptable. I think the answer is yes. However, this is my feeling and not

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-03 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Kobel writes: > On 2010-09-03 10:50, Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote: >> On Fri 03 Sep 2010, 10:09 David Kastrup wrote: >>> Obviously (to me), different character slots are required for the >>> extensible hyphens in lyrics, and a text hyphen. A long lyric hyphen, >>> for example, can't have th

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-03 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2010-09-03 10:50, Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote: On Fri 03 Sep 2010, 10:09 David Kastrup wrote: Obviously (to me), different character slots are required for the extensible hyphens in lyrics, and a text hyphen. A long lyric hyphen, for example, can't have the thickness of a normal text hyphen, or

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-03 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Fri 03 Sep 2010, 10:47 Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > I'd say that minimally acceptable for lyrics is far too short for > > text (and acceptable for text is too long for lyrics). > > I disagree. A hyphen is a hyphen is a hyphen, so to say. It must has > the font's default hyphen length and must no

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-03 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Fri 03 Sep 2010, 10:09 David Kastrup wrote: > "Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: > > acceptable for text is too long for lyrics). > > Text does not have variable length hyphens. Dashes of various length > carry different meanings in text: hyphen, range dashes, ellipsis. Yes, i knew that: -, –, — (or

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> > I think that the font should provide the minimally acceptable >> > hyphen. > > I'd say that minimally acceptable for lyrics is far too short for > text (and acceptable for text is too long for lyrics). I disagree. A hyphen is a hyphen is a hyphen, so to say. It must has the font's default h

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-03 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2010-09-03 10:09, David Kastrup wrote: "Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: On Fri 03 Sep 2010, 09:14 Werner LEMBERG wrote: @ David: What I'm not quite sure about yet: Do you - in general - think the font glyph should or should not be used? I think that the font should provide the minimally accepta

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-03 Thread David Kastrup
"Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: > On Fri 03 Sep 2010, 09:14 Werner LEMBERG wrote: >> >> @ David: What I'm not quite sure about yet: Do you - in general - >> >> think the font glyph should or should not be used? >> > I think that the font should provide the minimally acceptable >> > hyphen. >> I secon

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-03 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Fri 03 Sep 2010, 09:14 Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> @ David: What I'm not quite sure about yet: Do you - in general - > >> think the font glyph should or should not be used? > > I think that the font should provide the minimally acceptable > > hyphen. > I second that. I'd say that minimally accept

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> @ David: What I'm not quite sure about yet: Do you - in general - >> think the font glyph should or should not be used? > > I think that the font should provide the minimally acceptable > hyphen. I second that. > If it gets shorter than that, no hyphen should be used at all. Yep. > Whether

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Kobel writes: > On 2010-09-02 18:03, David Kastrup wrote: > >> You might actually be better off with overlaps (implemented as >> dashing with slightly negative distance). Or with not using such a >> font at all. Which is not likely anyway. > > True, true. Didn't think about this. I'

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2010-09-02 18:03, David Kastrup wrote: You could easily overlap multiple dash glyphs in order to arrive at arbitrary lengths. This won't work for fonts with uncommonly designed dashes, say one slightly slanted to the top, like a / with less height. So what? Perhaps scale horizontally?

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Thu 02 Sep 2010, 17:52 Alexander Kobel wrote: > On 2010-09-02 16:46, David Kastrup wrote: > >"Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: > >>Dash glyph will be the same length all the way. > > You have a point here. I personally don't like this feature too > much: if syllables are too close, I'd rather not h

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Kobel writes: > On 2010-09-02 16:46, David Kastrup wrote: >> "Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: >> >>> On Thu 02 Sep 2010, 15:25 Alexander Kobel wrote: Seriously: I still think it's not The Right Thing (tm) that LyricHyphens don't use the dash glyph of the LyricText font, for the >>

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2010-09-02 16:46, David Kastrup wrote: "Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: On Thu 02 Sep 2010, 15:25 Alexander Kobel wrote: Seriously: I still think it's not The Right Thing (tm) that LyricHyphens don't use the dash glyph of the LyricText font, for the sake of easy reproduction of nice results. [

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread David Kastrup
"Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: > On Thu 02 Sep 2010, 15:25 Alexander Kobel wrote: >> Seriously: I still think it's not The Right Thing (tm) that >> LyricHyphens don't use the dash glyph of the LyricText font, for the >> sake of easy reproduction of nice results. (Read: You can't just > LyricHyphen

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Alex, > Arrgh! Don't you see that the lines are rounded with different corner sizes? > Looks terrible at 6400% zoom, as bad as on my homemade A-1 borderless > color-proofed metal-foil wallpaper prints! ;-) Yes, but I foolishly thought I was the only obsessive-compulsive person on this li

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Thu 02 Sep 2010, 15:25 Alexander Kobel wrote: > Seriously: I still think it's not The Right Thing (tm) that > LyricHyphens don't use the dash glyph of the LyricText font, for the > sake of easy reproduction of nice results. (Read: You can't just LyricHyphen may vary in length, i like this a lot

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2010-09-02 15:09, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Robert, As I sad, the problem is, that the usual dash (-) symbol is not really looking like the hyphen. My question was, how to archieve it to display a hyphen which looks very similar to the one generated by lilypond. (Which seems to be rather a

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Robert, > As I sad, the problem is, that the usual dash (-) symbol is not really > looking like the hyphen. My question was, how to archieve it to display > a hyphen which looks very similar to the one generated by lilypond. > (Which seems to be rather a line than a character). \version "2.13.

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Thu 02 Sep 2010, 20:01 Robert Clausecker wrote: > As I sad, the problem is, that the usual dash (-) symbol is not really > looking like the hyphen. My question was, how to archieve it to display > a hyphen which looks very similar to the one generated by lilypond. > (Which seems to be rather a l

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Alexander Kobel
[cross-posted from -user to bug-, see footnote] On 2010-09-02 13:51, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Wouldn't this be easier? [...] << \relative { g'2 f } \addlyrics { \override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #0.75 "Pro - phe" -- tan } Well, yes, but it doesn't really give the expected output

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Robert Clausecker
As I sad, the problem is, that the usual dash (-) symbol is not really looking like the hyphen. My question was, how to archieve it to display a hyphen which looks very similar to the one generated by lilypond. (Which seems to be rather a line than a character). Yours, Robert Clausecker Am Do

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Robert: Wouldn't this be easier? \version "2.13.31" << \relative { g'2 f } \addlyrics { phe -- tan } >> << \relative { g'2 f } \addlyrics { \override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #0.75 "Pro - phe" -- tan } >> Hope this helps! Kieren. __

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-02 Thread Robert Clausecker
Thank you for your response. I just wanted to know, whether there is an easier way to archieve this? Yours, Robert Clausecker Am Donnerstag, den 02.09.2010, 01:06 +0100 schrieb Neil Puttock: > On 31 August 2010 13:42, Robert Clausecker wrote: > > > I want to write a small snippet for demo

Re: Add prefix to lyrics

2010-09-01 Thread Neil Puttock
On 31 August 2010 13:42, Robert Clausecker wrote: > I want to write a small snippet for demonstration purposes, which > contains lyrics. The problem is, that the first measure of the cited > fragment is the second syllable of a word (Pro - phe - ten, the "Pro" is > missing). In order to increase

Add prefix to lyrics

2010-08-31 Thread Robert Clausecker
Hi guys! I want to write a small snippet for demonstration purposes, which contains lyrics. The problem is, that the first measure of the cited fragment is the second syllable of a word (Pro - phe - ten, the "Pro" is missing). In order to increase the readability of this snippet, I wanted to use a