Re: Tuplet number collision when slurred

2020-01-12 Thread Knute Snortum
Not exactly what you asked for, but I think this looks better and is less confusing: {\clef alto \tupletDown \tuplet 3/2 {a8-3( g-2 f-1)}} --- Knute Snortum (via Gmail) On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 9:14 AM Jean-Julien Fleck wrote: > > Hello, > > I've got into a strange behavior of a \tuplet that can

Re: Tuplet number note size/font

2019-09-19 Thread Andrew Bernard
Sorry. I am guilty of using imprecise language. I use custom notehead stencils to achieve the look of the notes we want. Not a replacement custom font such as yours. [It's very successful but I confess I have never been able to make good breve noteheads.] This sort of thing: % for unfilled no

Re: Tuplet number note size/font

2019-09-19 Thread Abraham Lee
Hey, Andrew! On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 6:43 PM Andrew Bernard wrote: > I am trying to use notes in tuplet numbers, fairly standard. I use a > custom font for my scores and this may be interfering, but when I use > say 16. or 8 for the note the stem length is almost zero and it looks ugly. > > How

Re: Tuplet number and articulation

2018-01-27 Thread Ben
On 1/27/2018 10:29 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: 2018-01-27 15:26 GMT+01:00 Ben : On 1/26/2018 11:32 PM, Tiago Pereira wrote: Hi, everybody! In the example below, the tuplet number is moved upwards when the articulation is added. How to prevent this from happening? \relative c' { \stemUp

Re: Tuplet number and articulation

2018-01-27 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-01-27 15:26 GMT+01:00 Ben : > On 1/26/2018 11:32 PM, Tiago Pereira wrote: > > Hi, everybody! > > In the example below, the tuplet number is moved upwards when the > articulation is added. How to prevent this from happening? > > \relative c' { > \stemUp > \tuplet 3/2 4 { > c8 d e f

Re: Tuplet number and articulation

2018-01-27 Thread Ben
On 1/26/2018 11:32 PM, Tiago Pereira wrote: Hi, everybody! In the example below, the tuplet number is moved upwards when the articulation is added. How to prevent this from happening? \relative c' {     \stemUp     \tuplet 3/2 4 {     c8 d e f g a b c d e f g     c,,8^> d e f^> g a b^> c d e^

Re: Tuplet number and articulation

2018-01-27 Thread Ben
On 1/26/2018 11:32 PM, Tiago Pereira wrote: Hi, everybody! In the example below, the tuplet number is moved upwards when the articulation is added. How to prevent this from happening? \relative c' {     \stemUp     \tuplet 3/2 4 {     c8 d e f g a b c d e f g     c,,8^> d e f^> g a b^> c d e^

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-17 Thread David Kastrup
David Wright writes: > On Fri 15 Apr 2016 at 10:23:55 (+0200), David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Which would usually involve triplet brackets rather than hacking this >> into partial note values at measure boundaries. Which is how it was >> done in the score I have been singing this from. > > Surely o

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri 15 Apr 2016 at 10:23:55 (+0200), David Kastrup wrote: > "Phil Holmes" writes: > > - Original Message - > > From: "David Kastrup" > > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:04 AM > >> Simon Albrecht writes: > >>> On 15.04.2016 00:51, Thomas Morley wrote: > (1) The TupletNumbers are a

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-04-16 16:30 GMT+02:00 Trevor Daniels : > > Thomas Morley wrote Friday, April 15, 2016 11:25 PM > >> Agreed. I never considered to disallow tuplets over line-break. >> Gould has nothing to say about it? (I still don't own the book...) > > She has a complete chapter devoted to tuplets. She talk

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Thomas Morley wrote Friday, April 15, 2016 11:25 PM > Agreed. I never considered to disallow tuplets over line-break. > Gould has nothing to say about it? (I still don't own the book...) She has a complete chapter devoted to tuplets. She talks of tuplets across barlines (can be sub-divided with

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Nice! One minor thing: If space allows, I would move the `3' a bit >> nearer to the center to reduce the curvature of the slur. > > You mean move the `3' nearer to the staff, right? Yep. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gn

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-15 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-04-15 19:07 GMT+02:00 David Nalesnik : > Even if it is unlikely that an era of music which favors bow notation would > require tuplets across bars or line breaks, it still makes sense to allow > them for consistency. Agreed. I never considered to disallow tuplets over line-break. Gould has n

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-15 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-04-15 7:25 GMT+02:00 Werner LEMBERG : > >> Meanwhile I recoded it (using make-bow-stencil which is not >> available in 2.18.2) making things way easier. > > Nice! One minor thing: If space allows, I would move the `3' a bit > nearer to the center to reduce the curvature of the slur. You mean

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-15 Thread David Nalesnik
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 15.04.2016 10:23, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Josquin des Prez? I've sung some Missa from him with wildly augmented triplets crossing a number of bars. Timing them accurately took some math because at that speed there was no n

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-15 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 15.04.2016 10:23, David Kastrup wrote: Josquin des Prez? I've sung some Missa from him with wildly augmented triplets crossing a number of bars. Timing them accurately took some math because at that speed there was no natural flow any more really. That would be early 16th century. Wouldn't

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: [...] > "Phil Holmes" writes: > >> So to notate it for singers today, you could do it any way that you >> choose to make it look sensible. > > Which would usually involve triplet brackets rather than hacking this > into partial note values at measure boundaries. Which is

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "David Kastrup" > To: "Simon Albrecht" > Cc: "Thomas Morley" ; > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:04 AM > Subject: Re: Tuplet number direction > > >> Simon Albr

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-15 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Simon Albrecht" Cc: "Thomas Morley" ; Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:04 AM Subject: Re: Tuplet number direction Simon Albrecht writes: On 15.04.2016 00:51, Thomas Morley wrote: (1) The TupletNumber

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > On 15.04.2016 00:51, Thomas Morley wrote: >> (1) The TupletNumbers are always inside the bow, I coded no >> possibility to print the Number cutting the bow. >> I maybe add it later. >> (2) What to do at line-break? > > Wouldn’t it better do disallow line-breaks during tup

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Meanwhile I recoded it (using make-bow-stencil which is not > available in 2.18.2) making things way easier. Nice! One minor thing: If space allows, I would move the `3' a bit nearer to the center to reduce the curvature of the slur. Would that be possible? Werner _

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-14 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 15.04.2016 00:51, Thomas Morley wrote: (1) The TupletNumbers are always inside the bow, I coded no possibility to print the Number cutting the bow. I maybe add it later. (2) What to do at line-break? Wouldn’t it better do disallow line-breaks during tuplets (i.e. \override TupletBracket.bre

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-14 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-04-13 23:28 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : > 2016-04-13 15:06 GMT+02:00 Richard Shann : >> Thanks Abraham, that's most informative. >> Thinking about it, I wonder if I've missed something: is there a way to >> say typeset the tuplet bracket like a slur, with the tuplet number >> inside? > > I once

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-14 Thread Richard Shann
5/4 2 { a b c, d e a b, c d, e } > > \break > > } > > > > > > \layout { > > indent = 0 > > \tupletBracketToSlur > > \omit Staff.TimeSignature > > > > \omit Score.BarNumber > > } > > > > > > > > \s

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-14 Thread Richard Shann
uot; } > } > > > \score { > { \tupletUp \music } > \header { piece = "TupletBracket forced UP" } > } > > > \score { > { \tupletDown \music } > \header { piece = "TupletBracket forced DOWN" } > } >

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-14 Thread tisimst
Richard, On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Richard Shann-2 [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n189594...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > On Wed, 2016-04-13 at 23:28 +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: > > 2016-04-13 15:06 GMT+02:00 Richard Shann <[hidden email] >

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-14 Thread Richard Shann
On Wed, 2016-04-13 at 23:28 +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2016-04-13 15:06 GMT+02:00 Richard Shann : > > Thanks Abraham, that's most informative. > > Thinking about it, I wonder if I've missed something: is there a way to > > say typeset the tuplet bracket like a slur, with the tuplet number > > in

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 14.04.2016 06:19, Werner LEMBERG wrote: is there a way to say typeset the tuplet bracket like a slur, with the tuplet number inside? I once made the attached code. Very nice! LSR? Actually, I would even like to see this directly in lilypond! Such triplet slurs are used very often in the en

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> is there a way to say typeset the tuplet bracket like a slur, with >>> the tuplet number inside? >> >> I once made the attached code. > > Very nice! LSR? Actually, I would even like to see this directly in lilypond! Such triplet slurs are used very often in the engraving epoch lilypond trie

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-04-13 23:54 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht : > On 13.04.2016 23:28, Thomas Morley wrote: >> >> 2016-04-13 15:06 GMT+02:00 Richard Shann: >>> >>> Thanks Abraham, that's most informative. >>> Thinking about it, I wonder if I've missed something: is there a way to >>> say typeset the tuplet bracket lik

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 13.04.2016 23:28, Thomas Morley wrote: 2016-04-13 15:06 GMT+02:00 Richard Shann: Thanks Abraham, that's most informative. Thinking about it, I wonder if I've missed something: is there a way to say typeset the tuplet bracket like a slur, with the tuplet number inside? I once made the attache

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-04-13 15:06 GMT+02:00 Richard Shann : > Thanks Abraham, that's most informative. > Thinking about it, I wonder if I've missed something: is there a way to > say typeset the tuplet bracket like a slur, with the tuplet number > inside? I once made the attached code. Maybe you can adapt it to fi

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Noeck
Hi, perhaps this goes into the right direction: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-10/msg00325.html I thought I've seen more of this in the snippets, but I couldn't find anything. HTH, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 13.04.2016 15:06, Richard Shann wrote: Thinking about it, I wonder if I've missed something: is there a way to say typeset the tuplet bracket like a slur, with the tuplet number inside? That would be great to have, and I think has been requested some times already. But I assume this would r

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Richard Shann
Thanks Abraham, that's most informative. Thinking about it, I wonder if I've missed something: is there a way to say typeset the tuplet bracket like a slur, with the tuplet number inside? The reason I ask is that I came to this section of the manual because when typesetting 18th c. music the tuplet

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Abraham Lee
Richard, et al, Many grob properties are given a function (like tuplet-number::calc-direction) rather than a static value (like UP) when the property depends on many factors. In other words, by default, it's as if the 'direction property was set with \override TupletNumber.direction = #tuplet-num

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Richard Shann
On Wed, 2016-04-13 at 19:51 +1000, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Above or below what object? > I think the direction of the tuplet bracket and number are calculated relative to the notes in the tuplet, though whether these constitute a single object or not, I'm not sure. Richard > > Andrew > > >

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Richard Shann
On Wed, 2016-04-13 at 11:00 +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Richard Shann" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 10:37 AM > Subject: Tuplet number direction > > > >I wonder if someone could illuminate the tuplet direction property - I > > wanted to put the t

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Richard Shann" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 10:37 AM Subject: Tuplet number direction I wonder if someone could illuminate the tuplet direction property - I wanted to put the tuplet number above rather than below and looked up: http://lilypond.org/

Re: Tuplet number direction

2016-04-13 Thread Andrew Bernard
Above or below what object? Andrew On 13/04/2016, 19:37, "lilypond-user on behalf of Richard Shann" wrote: put the tuplet number above rather than below ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lil

Re: tuplet number

2016-01-19 Thread David Kastrup
Stanton Sanderson writes: >> On Jan 18, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Malte Meyn wrote: >> >> >> >>> Am 18.01.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: >>> In 2.18, >>> >>> Tuplet - no number\override TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f >> >> Setting the stencil to ##f is exactly what \omit does ;) (\omi

Re: tuplet number

2016-01-19 Thread David Kastrup
Stanton Sanderson writes: > How does one revert \omit TupletNumber to allow the number to appear for a > specific tuplet? In the following example, I would like to show the tupet > number in the second measure. Thanks in advance. > > Stan > > \version "2.19.35" > \relative c'' { > c

Re: tuplet number

2016-01-18 Thread Stanton Sanderson
> On Jan 18, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Malte Meyn wrote: > > > >> Am 18.01.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: >> In 2.18, >> >> Tuplet - no number\override TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f > > Setting the stencil to ##f is exactly what \omit does ;) (\omit already > exists in 2.18). A third

Re: tuplet number

2016-01-18 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 18.01.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: > In 2.18, > > Tuplet - no number\override TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f Setting the stencil to ##f is exactly what \omit does ;) (\omit already exists in 2.18) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lil

Re: tuplet number

2016-01-18 Thread Stanton Sanderson
Mark Thanks for the very complete answer. Malte’s method ( \undo \omit TupletNumber ) is almost too obvious! Both work exactly aa hoped. Stan > On Jan 18, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > > Stan, > > In 2.18, > > Tuplet - no bracket \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibili

Re: tuplet number

2016-01-18 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 18.01.2016 um 23:46 schrieb Stanton Sanderson: > How does one revert \omit TupletNumber to allow the number to appear for a > specific tuplet? There are two options: 1. If you want to omit only one TupletNumber you can use \once: … \once \omit TupletNumber \tuplet … 2. Revert the \

RE: tuplet number

2016-01-18 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Stan, In 2.18, Tuplet - no bracket \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f Tuplet - no number \override TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f Tuplet - number \revert TupletNumber #'stencil Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailt

Re: Tuplet Number Down

2014-10-13 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Abraham, 2014-10-13 21:03 GMT+02:00 Abraham Lee : > P.S. Can anyone tell us why TupletNumber supports the 'direction property > at all? I tried them all (UP, DOWN, CENTER, RIGHT, LEFT) and it did nothing. > I can't tell. Probably for historical reasons. Actually, tuplet numbers are always pl

Re: Tuplet Number Down

2014-10-13 Thread Abraham Lee
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Urs Liska wrote: The point of this is you don't want the tuplet *number* down but the whole thing. Knute, In other words, instead of "TupletNumber", use "TupletBracket". You can also use the shortcut "\tupletDown" :) Regards, Abraham P.S. Can anyone tell

Re: Tuplet Number Down

2014-10-13 Thread Urs Liska
The point of this is you don't want the tuplet *number* down but the whole thing. Am 13. Oktober 2014 20:13:01 MESZ, schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider : >2014-10-13 20:08 GMT+02:00 Knute Snortum : > >> I want the tuplet number to be below the notes. I am evidently doing >> something wrong. >> > >

Re: Tuplet Number Down

2014-10-13 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-10-13 20:08 GMT+02:00 Knute Snortum : > I want the tuplet number to be below the notes. I am evidently doing > something wrong. > Try : \version "2.18.2" \language "english" \relative c' { \tweak direction #DOWN \tuplet 3/2 { c8 d c } c4 c c } HTH, Pierre _

Re: tuplet number placement and ornament

2012-05-01 Thread James
Hello, On 1 May 2012 08:52, James wrote: > Hello, > > On 1 May 2012 08:31, Nick Payne wrote: >> On 01/05/12 17:06, James wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> On 1 May 2012 06:12, Nick Payne  wrote: On 01/05/12 14:32, Werner LEMBERG wrote: In the following, even though I've t

Re: tuplet number placement and ornament

2012-05-01 Thread James
Hello, On 1 May 2012 08:31, Nick Payne wrote: > On 01/05/12 17:06, James wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> On 1 May 2012 06:12, Nick Payne  wrote: >>> >>> On 01/05/12 14:32, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >>> >>> In the following, even though I've turned off the tuplet bracket >>> stencil, the tuplet

Re: tuplet number placement and ornament

2012-05-01 Thread Nick Payne
On 01/05/12 17:06, James wrote: Hello, On 1 May 2012 06:12, Nick Payne wrote: On 01/05/12 14:32, Werner LEMBERG wrote: In the following, even though I've turned off the tuplet bracket stencil, the tuplet number is still placed as though the stencil was there: [...] I want the number there, b

Re: tuplet number placement and ornament

2012-05-01 Thread James
Hello, On 1 May 2012 06:12, Nick Payne wrote: > On 01/05/12 14:32, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > In the following, even though I've turned off the tuplet bracket > stencil, the tuplet number is still placed as though the stencil > was there: >>> >>> [...] I want the number there, but

Re: tuplet number placement and ornament

2012-04-30 Thread Nick Payne
On 01/05/12 14:32, Werner LEMBERG wrote: In the following, even though I've turned off the tuplet bracket stencil, the tuplet number is still placed as though the stencil was there: [...] I want the number there, but not have it displaced upwards as if the bracket was still there and avoiding th

Re: tuplet number placement and ornament

2012-04-30 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> In the following, even though I've turned off the tuplet bracket >>> stencil, the tuplet number is still placed as though the stencil >>> was there: > > [...] I want the number there, but not have it displaced upwards as > if the bracket was still there and avoiding the mordent. I found > su

Re: tuplet number placement and ornament

2012-04-30 Thread Nick Payne
On 30/04/12 16:47, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: "Nick Payne" To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:39 AM Subject: tuplet number placement and ornament In the following, even though I've turned off the tuplet bracket stencil, the tuplet number is still placed as though

Re: tuplet number placement and ornament

2012-04-30 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi again, > Since the number is positioned according to where the bracket would be, > you could override 'positions of TupletBracket: > > \relative c'' { >\set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) >\times 2/3 { > g8 fis g > \override TupletBracket #'positions = #'(3.34

Re: tuplet number placement and ornament

2012-04-30 Thread David Nalesnik
Nick, > In the following, even though I've turned off the tuplet bracket >> stencil, the tuplet number is still placed as though the stencil was >> there: >> >> \version "2.15.37" >> >> \relative c'' { >>\set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) >>\override TupletBracket #'stenc

Re: tuplet number placement and ornament

2012-04-29 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Nick Payne" To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:39 AM Subject: tuplet number placement and ornament In the following, even though I've turned off the tuplet bracket stencil, the tuplet number is still placed as though the stencil was there: \version "2.1

Re: tuplet number

2010-10-13 Thread James Bailey
On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Alex Jones wrote: > I am using the expression to not display the tuplet number > \override TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f > > but at some point later in the score I want that number to be displayed again > and when I use what I figured was the appropriate reactivation