Hello Kaj,
On 17.09.2015 09:27, 70147pers...@telia.com wrote:
First I will declare, that I am not 100 percent sure this is a bug,
but friends of mine, musicians, say it probably is. Also, as I am not
an expert, I have tried to learn by searching on among others Wikipedia.
It is about chords,
2015-09-17 10:47 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht :
> Hello Kaj,
>
> On 17.09.2015 09:27, 70147pers...@telia.com wrote:
>>
>> First I will declare, that I am not 100 percent sure this is a bug, but
>> friends of mine, musicians, say it probably is. Also, as I am not an expert,
>> I have tried to learn by s
\version "2.18.0"
chExceptionMusic = {
%1-\markup { \super "5" }
%1-\markup { \super "5" }
%1-\markup { "5" }
1-\markup { "5" }
}
chExceptions = #(append
(sequential-music-to-chord-exceptions
chExceptionMusic #t)
ignatzekExceptions)
harmonies = \chordmode {
\set chordNameExceptions = #
Thomas Morley writes:
> 2015-09-17 10:47 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht :
>> Hello Kaj,
>>
>> On 17.09.2015 09:27, 70147pers...@telia.com wrote:
>>>
>>> First I will declare, that I am not 100 percent sure this is a bug, but
>>> friends of mine, musicians, say it probably is. Also, as I am not an exper
2015-09-17 11:13 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup :
> Thomas Morley writes:
>
>> 2015-09-17 10:47 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht :
>>> Hello Kaj,
>>>
>>> On 17.09.2015 09:27, 70147pers...@telia.com wrote:
First I will declare, that I am not 100 percent sure this is a bug, but
friends of mine, musi
May be I misunderstood ...
c:5 does not have a 3rd and is therefore indifferent - not minor not
major and therefore is not really a chord. ( i know it with the nick
name "hollow fifths") It is not equal to the c chord but has a special
quality with a "hollow" or crypt sound. It is frequently u
A bug?
\version "2.18.0"
harmonies =
\chordmode {
\set chordNameExceptions =
#(append
powerChordExceptions
ignatzekExceptions)
c:1.5
c^3
c c^3
}
<<
\new ChordNames {
\set chordChanges = ##t
\harmonies
}
\new Staff {
\relative c' { \harmonies }
\break
}
>>
On 17.09.2015 11:3
On 17/09/15 7:56 PM, BB wrote:
A bug?
My reading of the OP is that Kaj is expecting LP's chordmode to be
equivalent to the chord notations that he is used to seeing, which it is
not.
@Kaj, Lilypond's format for /inputting/ chords is described at
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Document
Den 2015-09-17 11:33, skrev Thomas Morley:
2015-09-17 11:13 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup :
Thomas Morley writes:
2015-09-17 10:47 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht :
Hello Kaj,
On 17.09.2015 09:27, 70147pers...@telia.com wrote:
First I will declare, that I am not 100 percent sure this is a bug, but
frie
Thomas Morley writes:
> 2015-09-17 10:47 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht :
>> Hello Kaj,
>>
>> On 17.09.2015 09:27, 70147pers...@telia.com wrote:
>>>
>>> First I will declare, that I am not 100 percent sure this is a bug, but
>>> friends of mine, musicians, say it probably is. Also, as I am not an exper
On 2015-09-17 13:14, Brett Duncan wrote:
@Kaj, Lilypond's format for /inputting/ chords is described at
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/chord-mode/
and I would suggest reading through this carefully to get a clearer
understanding of the results you are seeing, particula
On 17.09.2015 13:30, lilyp...@andis59.se wrote:
On 2015-09-17 13:14, Brett Duncan wrote:
@Kaj, Lilypond's format for /inputting/ chords is described at
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/chord-mode/
and I would suggest reading through this carefully to get a clearer
under
On 17/09/15 9:40 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote:
On 17.09.2015 13:30, lilyp...@andis59.se wrote:
On 2015-09-17 13:14, Brett Duncan wrote:
@Kaj, Lilypond's format for /inputting/ chords is described at
�http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/chord-mode/
and I would suggest reading t
Hi,
why is the number 5 larger than other numbers?
Does Csus4 3 make sense?
\version "2.19.21"
x = \chordmode {
\powerChords
c1:1.5
c1:1.4
c1:4.5
}
<<
\new ChordNames \x
\new Staff \x
>>
Cheers,
Joram
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Am 17.09.2015 um 20:17 schrieb Noeck:
Hi,
why is the number 5 larger than other numbers?
\powerChords from ly/chord-modifiers-init.ly uses \normal-size-super
instead of \super but I’ve no idea why.
Does Csus4 3 make sense?
I’ve seen that once in Cm^sus4 for but it doesn’t make sense
t
If it makes sense in my opinion only just depends on the harmonic
context and on your musical purpose.
Other "names" for Csus4 3 (c e f g) are
Cadd4 (4 is the g in this case),
Em#5addF/C (#5 here is c, f is added and c is the bass note),
Fmaj7 would be f a c e, but
Fmaj7sus2/C is c e f g
(normall
With Cm^sus4 for I have some problems. 4 of cm is f - is it?
But it is not suspended but f is added for the suspended f? Does that
make sense?
I would call (always depending on the context) Cmadd4,
F7sus2/C, D#6no5add2/C.
But C^sus4♭3 is not necessarily wrong (in my oppinion),
as 3 (=e)
Sorry. got something wrong. Here a correction:
... f is added for the suspended es?
es = 3, sus4 means suspend 3 = es and set f instead ...
3 of cm is es.
Am 17.09.2015 23:06, schrieb Blöchl Bernhard:
With Cm^sus4 for I have some problems. 4 of cm is f - is
it? But it is not suspended but Do
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015, Blöchl Bernhard wrote:
> I would call (always depending on the context) Cmadd4, F7sus2/C,
> D#6no5add2/C.
> Always consider the harmonic context!!!
What exactly does the "harmonic context" mean? What would be specific
examples of contexts where it could make sense to call t
Am 18.09.2015 04:10, schrieb msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015, Blöchl Bernhard wrote:
I would call (always depending on the context) Cmadd4,
F7sus2/C,
D#6no5add2/C.
Always consider the harmonic context!!!
What exactly does the "harmonic context" mean? What would be specific
Am Freitag, den 18. September 2015 um 08:05:03 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Blöchl
Bernhard:
> If one "colours" that up you get the bright colourful variety of
> skilled music that began with the development of orchestral events outside
> the churches and cathedrals and in the brothels of New Orleans.
hm
On Fri, 18 Sep 2015, Blöchl Bernhard wrote:
> I tried to make clear that there is not just a single correct name for a
> chord. That is only true for the simplest chords of our simple original folk
When someone enters a set of notes and asks LilyPond to print the chord
name, there's such a thing a
Does Medivial and Renaissance music, Dufay, Ockeghem or Josquin really
use chords in their sheets?
The subject of that thread is "Chords and what they mean".
On 18.09.2015 08:41, Orm Finnendahl wrote:
Am Freitag, den 18. September 2015 um 08:05:03 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Blöchl
Bernhard:
If one
Hi Urs,
>> What's with ? It is Em#5 or C/E
> While we're at being picky, that would have to be Em with a flattened 6 …
While _technically_ correct, you’d definitely want to write Em#5 for any
musical theatre performers/MDs, or most of the jazzers I know.
And changing it to B# isn’t necessaril
Can you really feed some notes to Lilypond and it tells you the name of
the chord? A kind of reverse chord finder? I have not found in the manual.
Is'nt the composer the person to define the desired sound in defining
notes and chord colours?
Again: There is not just one single name for an ess
Am 18.09.2015 um 15:39 schrieb BB:
> What's with ? It is Em#5 or C/E
While we're at being picky, that would have to be Em with a flattened 6 ...
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Hi all,
On Sep 17, 2015, at 10:10 PM, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
> If we are hoping to teach a computer program, i.e. LilyPond, to assign
> correct names to chords, then we have to really say what the
> considerations are that lead one name to be correct over another.
I don’t think anyone he
On Fri, 18 Sep 2015, BB wrote:
> Can you really feed some notes to Lilypond and it tells you the name of the
> chord? A kind of reverse chord finder? I have not found in the manual.
I thought that was the point under discussion. It's in the manual here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documenta
Am 18.09.2015 um 15:52 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
> Hi Urs,
>
>>> What's with ? It is Em#5 or C/E
>> While we're at being picky, that would have to be Em with a flattened 6 …
> While _technically_ correct, you’d definitely want to write Em#5 for any
> musical theatre performers/MDs, or most of
Hi Matthew,
>> Can you really feed some notes to Lilypond and it tells you the name of the
>> chord? A kind of reverse chord finder? I have not found in the manual.
>
> I thought that was the point under discussion. It's in the manual here:
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/nota
Hi Urs,
> Perfect example of "context”.
Exactly!
> I, as a classical musician, will get confused if presented with namings
> that don't follow the harmonic content (given the historical style of
> the music).
> That would be the same for Em-6 (or however you'd spell it out) as bis>.
Yes. In mo
Am 18.09.2015 um 17:06 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
> Hi Urs,
>
>> Perfect example of "context”.
> Exactly!
>
>> I, as a classical musician, will get confused if presented with namings
>> that don't follow the harmonic content (given the historical style of
>> the music).
>> That would be the same f
Hi Urs,
> the question of "simpler" is a question of context (i.e. background on the
> reader's part).
Agreed.
“Simpler” is also a question of practicality: for most pianists I know or have
worked with, Bb7/D is significantly easier to parse at sight than A#7/Cx,
regardless of what comes befo
Hi all!
This thread has evolved in a very interesting direction, and although
the discussion is often, I have to admit, much over my head, as being a,
however interested, but none the less, musical amateur. I will not break
this discussion, so I step into the thread via a side path.
Now I w
Am 18.09.2015 19:53, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com:
...
Csus means it would be fine, if I
could define this once, and then use my definition(s) when entering
the music, instead of, like today, having to enter Csus4 or c:1.4.5,
Do you use a different program?
I checked c:1.4.5 and get a
Sorry - I forgot the M! So once again:
I love all LP users and I do not want to be unpolite - but
R-T-F-M
Am 18.09.2015 21:20, schrieb Blöchl Bernhard:
Am 18.09.2015 19:53, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com:
...
Csus means it would be fine, if I
could define this o
On 2015-09-18 3:20 PM, Blöchl Bernhard wrote:
Am 18.09.2015 19:53, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com:
...
Csus means it would be fine, if I
could define this once, and then use my definition(s) when entering
the music, instead of, like today, having to enter Csus4 or c:1.4.5,
Do you use a diffe
2015-09-18 21:20 GMT+02:00 Blöchl Bernhard :
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 18.09.2015 19:53, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Csus means it would be fine, if I
>> could define this once, and then use my definition(s) when entering
>> the music, instead of, like today, having to enter Csus4 or c:1.
Sorry, I am heavily confused and severely irritated.
Csus4 or c:1.4.5 DOES deliver , say Lilypod is meaning
for c:1.4.5 and csus.
Here my example again:
\version "2.19.25"
theMusic = \chordmode {
c:1.4.5
c:sus4
}
<< \context ChordNames \theMusic
\context Voice \theMusic
So, please
I am just getting off but read your actual posting and your different
interpretation.
For me it is logic to understand, that c:sus will suspend the 3. What
should happen with a chord without a 3? A powerchord. Usually one would
define a substitute for 3, that is not the case with c:sus. Why
Hi Blöchl (et al.),
I agree that it would be interesting to know whether/how one can redefine the
input such that (e.g.) c:5 gives (or or whatever one wants) rather
than (current implementation).
However, modulo a language/communication barrier, I’d like to answer your other
impliciit quest
I just was rereading your post as Charm (in a later post) recommended.
If I interpret you correctly, you would like a personal chord library
yourself? A library you can maintain/care yourself? Good idea! Harm was
sending me a piece of code for arabic scales (many thanks!!! Great!
Works perfect
Kieren MacMillan writes:
> Hi Blöchl (et al.),
>
> I agree that it would be interesting to know whether/how one can
> redefine the input such that (e.g.) c:5 gives (or or
> whatever one wants) rather than (current implementation).
>
> However, modulo a language/communication barrier, I’d like
Hi Kaj, Kieren,
Am 18.09.2015 um 22:47 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
>> The question why c:5 only just gets a "normal" c chord instead of a power
>> chord
> It’s a good question.
> Certainly, composers (like me) who work in musical theatre write C5 to mean
> … so it would be nice to enter the same i
Noeck writes:
> Having different *input* syntax for different people according to their
> taste is more complicated and it's doubtable that this is a good aim for
> LilyPond. Exchanging code gets more complicated and small snippets are
> not necessarily self-consistent. You always would have to s
On 2015-09-19 00:13, David Kastrup wrote:
Noeck writes:
Having different *input* syntax for different people according to their
taste is more complicated and it's doubtable that this is a good aim for
LilyPond. Exchanging code gets more complicated and small snippets are
not necessarily self-c
2015-09-19 1:05 GMT+02:00 <70147pers...@telia.com>:
> On 2015-09-19 00:13, David Kastrup wrote:
>>
>> Noeck writes:
>>
>>> Having different *input* syntax for different people according to their
>>> taste is more complicated and it's doubtable that this is a good aim for
>>> LilyPond. Exchanging
2015-09-19 1:39 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley :
> 2015-09-19 1:05 GMT+02:00 <70147pers...@telia.com>:
>> On 2015-09-19 00:13, David Kastrup wrote:
>>>
>>> Noeck writes:
>>>
Having different *input* syntax for different people according to their
taste is more complicated and it's doubtable tha
The most important thing to understand about the way Lilypond does chords,
is that there are three completely different parts.
1) Input syntax
2) Note sets
3) Chord symbols
1) Input syntax
To ask why writing "Csus" does not produce "Csus"?
Is to ask the wrong question.
Because the Input syntax
On 19 September 2015 at 07:30, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> We have an exception for c:13 already (it leaves off the 11).
It would be great if that actually displayed C13. When a 13th is the
most complicated chord you’re using, you have to trawl the docs and do
a whole lot of experimentation just to
On 19/09/15 8:49 AM, Kaj Persson wrote:
As you wrote Csus ought to mean that the first third is removed, and
nothing else. Among professional musicians, which I am not, but I have
friends who are, this is not the whole truth, there exists a de facto
standard which does not exactly coincide with
Thank you for the interesting analysis and the links. With the flats and
sharps instead of "-es" and "-is" in your code, it is a bit strange.
The m7b5 chord (your example) in the jazz slang usually/often is called
"half diminished" an uses the slashed 0 "ø" symbolically "halving" the
0.I do no
There was a long thread "Lilypond and Jazz chords" in 2009
https://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg48254.html
I have not read it completely, but may be one might find it interesting?
I think one might find many repetitions and may be some additional
aspects?
_
A bit OT:
For anybody having doubts if sus chords are of any use, I found a nice
example in jazz. In Herbie Hancock’s jazz piece Maiden Voyage one can
recognize examples of sus chords covering D7sus, F7sus, Eb7sus, and
F#7sus (C#-13). Lilipond unhappily omits the sus in this combinations.
ht
On 19/09/15 7:52 PM, Blöchl Bernhard wrote:
A bit OT:
For anybody having doubts if sus chords are of any use, I found a nice
example in jazz. In Herbie Hancock’s jazz piece Maiden Voyage one can
recognize examples of sus chords covering D7sus, F7sus, Eb7sus, and
F#7sus (C#-13). Lilipond unhap
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:05:12 +0200
70147pers...@telia.com wrote:
> This should, by means of a translation table, take my input and
> translate it into LP code. So when I write c:sus this will be changed to
> e.g. c:sus4 (or perhaps c:1.4.5) before it is dealt with by LP, and when
> I write c:5
For sure Hancock is giving the sus some specific "colour". I just
listend Maiden Voyage and I am sure he always play a powerchord root
doubled and a 5 with his left hand, not a complete triad. Nothing
strange for modal jazz. And a 7sus chord with the right hand. Not shure,
but it sounds like 7s
On 20/09/15 11:30 AM, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote:
> Just to be clear, in Hancock's piece and other jazz standards, D7sus is
> not simply a 7th chord with the third omitted. As Mark Levine explained
> in the "The Jazz Piano Book" (Sher Music Co. 1989), for D7sus (or simply
> "Dsus" as it appe
On 20.09.2015 03:30, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote:
...
> I suppose that this is because some people (and Lilypond) think that
> C:sus2 is equally as valid or usual interpretation of "sus", and
May be I misundertand this? c:sus2 works with Lilypond and IS a valid
chord often
Blöchl Bernhard writes:
> I think the proper way for reaching your proposed Lilypond redesign is
> to pay a developer ...
Shrug. Indirectly. I'll be submitting a patch to our issue tracker
today, so this change of input syntax will likely appear in a week or
two in development versions.
But t
Am 20.09.2015 um 09:58 schrieb BB:
[...]
The question is more like: if you saw Csus, would you know how to
interpret it musically?
Or would you be stuck in your tracks wondering, "is this a sus2, sus4,
both? something else?"
c:sus is working correctly getting root and 5, but indeed is an
"unc
On 20.09.2015 03:30, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote:
> Just to be clear, in Hancock's piece and other jazz standards, D7sus is
> not simply a 7th chord with the third omitted. As Mark Levine explained
> in the "The Jazz Piano Book" (Sher Music Co. 1989), for D7sus (or simply
> "Dsus" as it ap
Marc Hohl writes:
> Am 20.09.2015 um 09:58 schrieb BB:
> [...]
>>> The question is more like: if you saw Csus, would you know how to
>>> interpret it musically?
>>> Or would you be stuck in your tracks wondering, "is this a sus2, sus4,
>>> both? something else?"
>>
>> c:sus is working correctly
Speaking as a theorist here: while there are automatic chord analysis
functions in many notation programs, in my experience, they are all not yet
sufficiently aware of context (upon which a harmonic analysis is heavily
dependent) and analysis style. It's quite easy to label chords as to the
pure ve
David Kastrup writes:
> Marc Hohl writes:
>
>> Am 20.09.2015 um 09:58 schrieb BB:
>> [...]
The question is more like: if you saw Csus, would you know how to
interpret it musically?
Or would you be stuck in your tracks wondering, "is this a sus2, sus4,
both? something else?"
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 23:52:14 +0200
70147pers...@telia.com wrote:
> You are certainly completely right. The transformation is quite simple,
> so a script in perl or awk or any similar program can easily solve the
> task. But can you use it in an integrated environment, like
> Frescobaldi-LilyPon
Johan Vromans writes:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 23:52:14 +0200
> 70147pers...@telia.com wrote:
>
>> You are certainly completely right. The transformation is quite simple,
>> so a script in perl or awk or any similar program can easily solve the
>> task. But can you use it in an integrated environm
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 14:02:06 +0200
David Kastrup wrote:
> > On paper, we all write Am to designate an A-minor chord. However, in
> > LilyPond we write a:min.
> Probably because it is usually written as a:m instead. "m" and "min"
> are aliases.
True, although that was not what I intended to sta
I absolutely agree! I did not understand as I read that Lilypond now
supports misbehavour of some lazy people with reduced harmonic skills.
There are a bunch of "coloured" sus chords, not just sus4 for every sus
sign.
On 20.09.2015 13:38, Johan Vromans wrote:
So what is the big deal to write
2015-09-20 14:14 GMT+02:00 BB :
> I absolutely agree! I did not understand as I read that Lilypond now
> supports misbehavour of some lazy people with reduced harmonic skills.
>
> There are a bunch of "coloured" sus chords, not just sus4 for every sus
> sign.
No idea if anyone tested my recent pro
Johan Vromans writes:
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 14:02:06 +0200
> David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> > On paper, we all write Am to designate an A-minor chord. However, in
>> > LilyPond we write a:min.
>
>> Probably because it is usually written as a:m instead. "m" and "min"
>> are aliases.
>
> True, althoug
Have fun with testing!
\version "2.19.25"
#(set-global-staff-size 30)
chordtest = \chordmode {
c:sus %power chord Lilypond calls it wrong as C
c:sus3 % power chord Lilypond calls it correctly as C
c:sus5 %power chord Lilypond calls it wrong as C
c:1.4.5 % equal to:
c:sus4
c:1.5.2 % equal
Thomas Morley writes:
> 2015-09-20 14:14 GMT+02:00 BB :
>> I absolutely agree! I did not understand as I read that Lilypond now
>> supports misbehavour of some lazy people with reduced harmonic skills.
>>
>> There are a bunch of "coloured" sus chords, not just sus4 for every sus
>> sign.
>
> No i
2015-09-20 14:38 GMT+02:00 BB :
> Have fun with testing!
>
> \version "2.19.25"
>
> #(set-global-staff-size 30)
>
> chordtest = \chordmode {
>
> c:sus %power chord Lilypond calls it wrong as C
>
> c:sus3 % power chord Lilypond calls it correctly as C
>
> c:sus5 %power chord Lilypond calls it wrong
Hi LilyPond experts,
this is a basic question that I have when I read this thread:
How are chords stored and translated internally?
>From using LP, I know I can write in chordmode and in musicmode and I
can get notes and chordnames:
\chordmode -> \new Staff
\chordmode -> \new ChordNames
{ }
Noeck writes:
> Hi LilyPond experts,
>
> this is a basic question that I have when I read this thread:
> How are chords stored and translated internally?
>
> From using LP, I know I can write in chordmode and in musicmode and I
> can get notes and chordnames:
> \chordmode -> \new Staff
> \chordm
David Kastrup writes:
> Noeck writes:
>
> The reason is that there are additional properties on the individual
> notes in the chord expression recording some of their functional
> relation to the \chordmode entry. Try \displayMusic \music to see them.
>
>> The core of my question is: Can the tr
David Kastrup writes:
>> David announced an own patch. I'm quite confident he will do better
>> work than me.
>
> Depends on what one wants to call "better". The code may be marginally
> nicer.
Phooey. The actual code might be marginally nicer or not, but the main
work was convert-ly rules any
Am 20.09.2015 um 11:10 schrieb David Kastrup:
[...]
Interpreting c:sus as root and 5 feels strange IMHO.
The rule I am using in my current patch (just writing up the
documentation) is that c:sus will add a 4 if no step 2 or step 4 is
added afterwards (step 2 can be 2+ or 2- as well as just 2).
Thank you for the pointer to the two programs I never have heard of
before. Off Topic but very interesting.
As you mentioned Rameau I will add, that the idea of "chord inversion"
goes back to Lippius from Leipzig in Germany "trias harmonica" from 1609
and is not original to Rameau as often sta
Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes:
> Mixing responses from several posters here...
>
>
>
> FWIW, my two cents on the design questions:
>
> Modifying the input syntax such that c:5 means seems ill-advised.
>
> That would be inconsistent with the rest of the input syntax,
> where the first number r
On 21/09/15 7:48 AM, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote:
Modifying the input syntax such that c:5 means seems ill-advised.
I was thinking much the same, until I read something that David Kastrup
wrote:
I think it is not an outlandish expectation, once you see how a:maj and
a:dim and a:min work,
Hi Brett,
> This does raise the question of other "naive" constructions. I have seen on
> some contemporary music charts notations like C2 and C4, which apparently
> meant Cadd2 and Cadd4 respectively (except in one case, where Cadd4 did not
> sound right, and only after hearing a recording did
On 21/09/15 7:48 AM, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote:
> Well, in his explanation of sus chords, Levine indicates that that
> he does not interpret "sus" to be exactly synonymous with "sus4". At
> one point, he wrote "A persistent myth about sus chords is that 'the
> fouth takes the place of the th
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 2:58 AM, BB wrote:
>
> On 20.09.2015 03:30, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> > I suppose that this is because some people (and Lilypond) think that
>> > C:sus2 is equally as valid or usual interpretation of "sus", and
>>
>> May be I misundertand this? c:sus2
Brett Duncan writes:
> On 21/09/15 7:48 AM, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote:
>> Modifying the input syntax such that c:5 means seems ill-advised.
>
> I was thinking much the same, until I read something that David
> Kastrup wrote:
>> I think it is not an outlandish expectation, once you see how a
On 21/09/15 4:44 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
It's really a case of diminuishing returns. The change for x:5 is
definitely affecting the logic of LilyPond, but arguably that can of
worms has been opened with x:13 already. x:5 is more important, but
it's also a lot more likely to be used as basic b
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:55:33 +0200
Blöchl Bernhard wrote:
> What seems like it would be most useful for me would be to forget about
> LilyPond's chord-naming translation from note sets to symbols, and just
> use markup to add symbols of my choice wherever I want them. So that
> raises the questi
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015, Johan Vromans wrote:
> > What seems like it would be most useful for me would be to forget about
> > LilyPond's chord-naming translation from note sets to symbols, and just
> > use markup to add symbols of my choice wherever I want them. So that
> You'll lose the ability to t
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:55:33 +0200
Blöchl Bernhard wrote:
> If c:sus is a simple way to get C5 ...
It is easy to instruct LilyPond that a chord of form must be shown
as minor (e.g., Cm), but can I do the other way around? E.g., define a
'foo' so that X:foo means or whatever notes I want?
-- J
Johan Vromans writes:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:55:33 +0200
> Blöchl Bernhard wrote:
>
>> If c:sus is a simple way to get C5 ...
>
> It is easy to instruct LilyPond that a chord of form must be shown
> as minor (e.g., Cm), but can I do the other way around? E.g., define a
> 'foo' so that X:foo m
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:00:13 +0200
David Kastrup wrote:
> Johan Vromans writes:
> > It is easy to instruct LilyPond that a chord of form must be
> > shown as minor (e.g., Cm), but can I do the other way around? E.g.,
> > define a 'foo' so that X:foo means or whatever notes I want?
>
> Possibl
Johan Vromans writes:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:00:13 +0200
> David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> Johan Vromans writes:
>> > It is easy to instruct LilyPond that a chord of form must be
>> > shown as minor (e.g., Cm), but can I do the other way around? E.g.,
>> > define a 'foo' so that X:foo means or wh
On 2015-09-17 13:40, Simon Albrecht wrote:
On 17.09.2015 13:30, lilyp...@andis59.se wrote:
On 2015-09-17 13:14, Brett Duncan wrote:
@Kaj, Lilypond's format for /inputting/ chords is described at
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/chord-mode/
and I would suggest reading t
Well, time to thank you all for your efforts to get me understand what I
am doing. As (almost) usual there already exists a solution in LilyPond,
but it is hidden by so much else, so you do not find it. In my country
we sometimes say that "you do not see the forest because of all the
trees" (i
On 2015-09-18 21:39, Thomas Morley wrote:
2015-09-18 21:20 GMT+02:00 Blöchl Bernhard :
Am 18.09.2015 19:53, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com:
...
Csus means it would be fine, if I
could define this once, and then use my definition(s) when entering
the music, instead of, like today, having t
On 2015-09-19 05:06, Brett Duncan wrote:
On 19/09/15 8:49 AM, Kaj Persson wrote:
As you wrote Csus ought to mean that the first third is removed, and
nothing else. Among professional musicians, which I am not, but I
have friends who are, this is not the whole truth, there exists a de
facto sta
On 2015-09-19 13:52, Johan Vromans wrote:
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:05:12 +0200
70147pers...@telia.com wrote:
This should, by means of a translation table, take my input and
translate it into LP code. So when I write c:sus this will be changed to
e.g. c:sus4 (or perhaps c:1.4.5) before it is dealt
I think the proper way for reaching your proposed Lilypond redesign is
to pay a developer ...
Am 19.09.2015 23:52, schrieb 70147pers...@telia.com:
On 2015-09-19 13:52, Johan Vromans wrote:
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:05:12 +0200
70147pers...@telia.com wrote:
This should, by means of a translation
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