Re: Segmentation Fault in 2.18 (was Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?)

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Scott
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:27:53AM +, Richard Shann wrote: > I just came across a workaround for this LilyPond crash - adding I have been getting very occasional segfaults with Lily since at least 2.17. I have never been able to create a minimal example because as soon as I change anything

Re: Segmentation Fault in 2.18 (was Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?)

2014-02-27 Thread Richard Shann
I just came across a workaround for this LilyPond crash - adding \once \override MultiMeasureRestNumber #'transparent = ##t before the multi-measure rests in the second voice results in the typesetting finishing correctly. I came across this because I was getting the number printed twice in some

Segmentation Fault in 2.18 (was Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?)

2014-02-01 Thread Richard Shann
On Thu, 2013-11-14 at 21:14 +0100, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote: > On 14.11.2013 16:19, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > >> there is an update of this snippet in the mail archives and I will post > >> my version later. > > > > Fantastic, thank you! :-) > so, here is the version I regularly use ... in fac

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/20 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2013/11/20 Urs Liska : >>> Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. That looks painful. >>> >>> They noticed too ;-) >>> http://www.finalemusic.

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > 2013/11/20 Urs Liska : >> Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: >>> To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. >>> That looks painful. >> >> They noticed too ;-) >> http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/rolls-tremolos-jari-williamsson-an

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/20 Urs Liska : > > "Janek Warchoł" schrieb: >>2013/11/20 Urs Liska : >>> Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo >>notehead mess. That looks painful. >>> >>> They noticed too ;-) >>> >>http://www.finalemusic.com/

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread Urs Liska
"Janek Warchoł" schrieb: >2013/11/20 Urs Liska : >> Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: >>> To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo >notehead mess. >>> That looks painful. >> >> They noticed too ;-) >> >http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/rolls-tremolos-jari-william

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/20 Urs Liska : > Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: >> To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. >> That looks painful. > > They noticed too ;-) > http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/rolls-tremolos-jari-williamsson-and-finale-2014/ Fascinating - so

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.11.2013 12:03, schrieb SoundsFromSound: To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. That looks painful. The duplicate rests section didn't register with my brain until a few seconds later. I certainly prefer the 2014 "look" more with the merging, for sure,

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-15 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/11/15 Wilbert Berendsen : > Op Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:52:06 +0100 > Urs Liska schreef: > >> Hi all, >> >> this has just appeared: >> http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/quick-peeks-at-finale-2014-consolidate-rests/ >> >> and I think what they describe as inferior behaviour in Finale 2012 >> is (near

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:52:06 +0100 Urs Liska schreef: > Hi all, > > this has just appeared: > http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/quick-peeks-at-finale-2014-consolidate-rests/ > > and I think what they describe as inferior behaviour in Finale 2012 > is (nearly) exactly what we have to do (OK, we do

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Henning Hraban Ramm writes: > Am 2013-11-14 um 23:26 schrieb Phil Burfitt : > >> I may be stating the obvious...but I've always used b4\rest (or >> whatever note position you want the rest) in one voice and s4 in the >> other voices. Not that elegant, but simple. > > But doesn’t that play the b4

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-11-14 um 23:26 schrieb Phil Burfitt : > I may be stating the obvious...but I've always used b4\rest (or whatever note > position you want the rest) in one voice and s4 in the other voices. Not that > elegant, but simple. But doesn’t that play the b4 in MIDI? Greetlings, Hraban --- fiëé

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Caio Barros
2013/11/14 Michael Rivers > I've always used Phil's solution (manually placing one rest and using s for > the other), but, come to think of it, it would be nice for this to be done > automatically. > After typing a full orchestral movement and solving the merge problem with just one copy + paste

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
On 14.11.2013 16:19, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: >> there is an update of this snippet in the mail archives and I will post >> my version later. > > Fantastic, thank you! :-) so, here is the version I regularly use ... in fact, this is taken from some e-mail on this list some time ago. It also

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Michael Rivers
I've always used Phil's solution (manually placing one rest and using s for the other), but, come to think of it, it would be nice for this to be done automatically. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Learn-from-Finale-2014-seriously-tp153908p153952.html Sent

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Burfitt" writes: > Johan Vromans wrote > >>> rr = >>> #(define-music-function >>>(parser location dur) >>>(ly:duration?) >>>#{ \tweak direction #CENTER r$dur #}) >>> >>> would seem saner. >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. I needed >> >>#{ \tweak #'direction #'CENTER r$dur #})

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Phil Burfitt
Johan Vromans wrote rr = #(define-music-function (parser location dur) (ly:duration?) #{ \tweak direction #CENTER r$dur #}) would seem saner. Thanks for the suggestion. I needed #{ \tweak #'direction #'CENTER r$dur #}) but it sure looks nice(r). Do you know how to make the dur

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Johan Vromans writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> rr = >> #(define-music-function >>(parser location dur) >>(ly:duration?) >>#{ \tweak direction #CENTER r$dur #}) >> >> would seem saner. > > Thanks for the suggestion. I needed > > #{ \tweak #'direction #'CENTER r$dur #}) > > but

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Johan Vromans
David Kastrup writes: > rr = > #(define-music-function >(parser location dur) >(ly:duration?) >#{ \tweak direction #CENTER r$dur #}) > > would seem saner. Thanks for the suggestion. I needed #{ \tweak #'direction #'CENTER r$dur #}) but it sure looks nice(r). Do you know how to

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/11/13 15:05, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote: there is an update of this snippet in the mail archives and I will post my version later. Fantastic, thank you! :-) You're right, but I would take this as a proposal to add this as a standard command to lily. Yes, I agree. In fact for optimal usabi

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Joseph, Am 14.11.2013 14:45, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling: > "Please note that multi-measure rests are not automatically combined." there is an update of this snippet in the mail archives and I will post my version later. > In addition, it hardly matches the ease of the Sibelius/Finale feat

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Johan Vromans writes: > For this purpose I once wrote a function: > > rr = > #(define-music-function >(parser location dur) >(ly:duration?) >#{ \oneVoice #(make-music 'RestEvent 'duration dur) \voiceOne #} > ) rr = #(define-music-function (parser location dur) (ly:duration?)

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/11/13 11:16, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote: there is a snippet in LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 which did this for a long time. "Please note that multi-measure rests are not automatically combined." In addition, it hardly matches the ease of the Sibelius/Finale features if the u

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Johan Vromans
Urs Liska writes: > But I often have to do things like > > << > { > \voiceOne d'4 \oneVoice r \voiceOne d' > } > \new Voice { > \voiceTwo d4 s d > } >>> For this purpose I once wrote a function: \dual { g'4 \rr4 g' } { d'4 s d' } -- Johan rr = #(define-music-func

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread SoundsFromSound
To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. That looks painful. The duplicate rests section didn't register with my brain until a few seconds later. I certainly prefer the 2014 "look" more with the merging, for sure, but my eyes didn't process that as "standout" f

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.11.2013 11:08, schrieb Karl Hammar: Urs Liska: Does anybody have an idea how one could improve this situation for LilyPond? You have to be more specific, what is it you want ? I'm not wanting anything specific, just raise this issue. It seems that there already _is_ a solution, so every

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.11.2013 11:16, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hi Urs, there is a snippet in LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 which did this for a long time. To me it seems, that finale learned from lilypond ;) I adapted it and integrated it in my own always-to-load-extensions and use it in all my c

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Karl Hammar
Urs Liska: > this has just appeared: > http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/quick-peeks-at-finale-2014-consolidate-rests/ > > and I think what they describe as inferior behaviour in Finale 2012 is > (nearly) exactly what we have to do (OK, we don't have to manually drag > rests to an appropriate plac

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Urs, there is a snippet in LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 which did this for a long time. To me it seems, that finale learned from lilypond ;) I adapted it and integrated it in my own always-to-load-extensions and use it in all my choral transcriptions. Best, Jan-Peter Am 14.11

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Eluze
Urs Liska wrote > > More elegant in use would be something that checks for any rest if there > is a rest of the same length at the same position in time and them > performs such a merge automatically. > Something similar to \mergeDifferentlyHeadedOn. > I don't have the slightest idea how to real

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Matthias Böhringer
Hello list, Am 14.11.2013 10:00, schrieb flup2: It would be a great idea (although I haven't idea about the way to implement it into LilyPond). But there actually are two ways to merge the rests auomagically! Search the list (archives) for "merge rests" and/or "merge rest engraver". I don't

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread flup2
It would be a great idea (although I haven't idea about the way to implement it into LilyPond). But I noticed how ugly the tremelo-notehead collision is, with Finale 2014 default settings ;-) Philippe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Learn-from-Finale-201