Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-21 Thread Walt North
necessary engraver to create the invisible grobs used for alignment. It appears to me in your example that actually the lyrics are just being spaced evenly without alignment to anything. Nullvoice is intended for your use case. On Fri, Sep 20, 2

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Saul Tobin
cs } >>> >> >>> << >>> \new NullVoice = "verseB" { \break \verseLyricsMelody } >>> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "verseB" { \verseOneLyrics } >>> >>> >> >>> >>> &g

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Walt North
o me in your example that actually the lyrics are just being spaced evenly without alignment to anything. Nullvoice is intended for your use case. On Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 6:06 PM Walt North wrote: Am I missing something?  It seems like

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Walt North
evenly without alignment to anything. Nullvoice is intended for your use case. On Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 6:06 PM Walt North wrote: Am I missing something?  It seems like using devnull to align lyrics to does pay attention to ties.  Ties do s

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Saul Tobin
> >> >> >> >> >> >> } >> >> >> >> On 9/20/2024 4:58 PM, Saul Tobin wrote: >> >> My understanding is that Devnull is not intended for alignment of lyrics >> because it does not have the necessary engraver to create the inv

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Walt North
ight wrote: On Fri 20 Sep 2024 at 15:05:51 (-0700), Walt North wrote: Am I missing something?  It seems like using devnull to align lyrics to does pay attention to ties.  Ties do seem to be honored when using voice for alignment. Below is a stripped down example with screenshot. \version "2.2

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Vaughan McAlley
es not have the necessary engraver to create the invisible > grobs used for alignment. It appears to me in your example that actually > the lyrics are just being spaced evenly without alignment to anything. > Nullvoice is intended for your use case. > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 6:06 PM

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Saul Tobin
being spaced evenly without alignment to anything. > Nullvoice is intended for your use case. > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 6:06 PM Walt North wrote: > >> Am I missing something? It seems like using devnull to align lyrics to >> does pay attention to ties. Ties do se

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread David Wright
On Fri 20 Sep 2024 at 15:05:51 (-0700), Walt North wrote: > Am I missing something?  It seems like using devnull to align lyrics > to does pay attention to ties.  Ties do seem to be honored when using > voice for alignment. > > Below is a stripped down example with screenshot

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Walt North
024, 6:06 PM Walt North wrote: Am I missing something?  It seems like using devnull to align lyrics to does pay attention to ties.  Ties do seem to be honored when using voice for alignment. Below is a stripped down example with screenshot. \version "2.24.2"

Re: devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Saul Tobin
is intended for your use case. On Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 6:06 PM Walt North wrote: > Am I missing something? It seems like using devnull to align lyrics to > does pay attention to ties. Ties do seem to be honored when using voice > for alignment. > > Below is a stripped do

devnull with lyrics and ties

2024-09-20 Thread Walt North
Am I missing something?  It seems like using devnull to align lyrics to does pay attention to ties.  Ties do seem to be honored when using voice for alignment. Below is a stripped down example with screenshot. \version "2.24.2" \language "english" \layout {   indent = 0

Re: RehearsalMarks, slurs and ties overlapping

2024-06-15 Thread Federico Sarudiansky
Yes, playing with different combinations of ##f (an idea I've never thought about) and different values seems to do the trick. Thanks, Leo. El vie, 14 jun 2024 a las 12:27, Leo Correia de Verdier (< leo.correia.de.verd...@gmail.com>) escribió: > Setting > \override Score.RehearsalMark.outside-s

Re: RehearsalMarks, slurs and ties overlapping

2024-06-14 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Leo (and Federico!), > Setting > \override Score.RehearsalMark.outside-staff-priority = ##f > could perhaps also be an option. Oh, yes… much better than my “nuclear” \ignore option! %%% SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.25.11" \layout { \context { \Score \override RehearsalMark.outside

Re: RehearsalMarks, slurs and ties overlapping

2024-06-14 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
Setting \override Score.RehearsalMark.outside-staff-priority = ##f could perhaps also be an option. > 13 juni 2024 kl. 16:49 skrev Federico Sarudiansky : > > Hi again, Kieren! > > Excellent! However I wonder if there is a more general approach. Something > «allowing» the slurs not taking th

Re: RehearsalMarks, slurs and ties overlapping

2024-06-13 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Federico, > How can I overlap the perfect tie (slur) in A with the mark position in B and > C so to use the .whiteout and .layer properties to put the slur/tie behind > the mark and save some vertical space? Maybe something like this…? %%% SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.25.11" \relative c'''

Re: RehearsalMarks, slurs and ties overlapping

2024-06-13 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Federico, > However I wonder if there is a more general approach. Something «allowing» > the slurs not taking the rehearsal marks into consideration when defining its > shape parameters. This is fairly “nuclear”, but: %%% SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.25.11" ignoreV = \propertyTweak verti

Re: RehearsalMarks, slurs and ties overlapping

2024-06-13 Thread Federico Sarudiansky
Hi again, Kieren! Excellent! However I wonder if there is a more general approach. Something «allowing» the slurs not taking the rehearsal marks into consideration when defining its shape parameters. All the best! F. El jue, 13 jun 2024 a las 11:28, Kieren MacMillan (< kie...@kierenmacmillan.in

RehearsalMarks, slurs and ties overlapping

2024-06-13 Thread Federico Sarudiansky
Hi. Please consider the following: \version "2.25.15" \relative c''' { g1~ \mark \default g1 \override Score.RehearsalMark.outside-staff-priority = #1 \override Tie.outside-staff-priority = #2 g1~ \mark \default g1 \override Slur.outside-staff-priority = #2 g1 ( \mark \default e1 )

Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Charlie Ma
I just joined this group and have learned so much already. First time answering. Hope this is right (works for me anyway.) Butter Cream: for the first tie put the first b-flat in the same "voice." for the 2nd tie use \repeatTie. \repeat volta 2 { 4 8 ~ r8 << { bes4~ } \\ { s4 } >> |

RE: Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Welcome! From: Butter Cream Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:29 PM To: Leo Correia de Verdier ; Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods Thank you! I will implement your suggestions. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G

Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Butter Cream
Mrotek Cc: Butter Cream ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods Also: your tie needs to end in the same voice it started. \new Voice and the <<\\>> construct both create other voices. If you remove \new Voice = “melody” from your first attempt it will

Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
tter Cream > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 1:29 PM > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Ties across voices; tried two methods > > Hi ponders, I have a piece of music with alternative ending. The last measure > prior to the alternative is a single voice has a tied note to b

RE: Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Butter, Use \repeatTie See https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/long-repeats#normal-re peats Mark From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org On Behalf Of Butter Cream Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 1:29 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Ties

Ties across voices; tried two methods

2024-01-24 Thread Butter Cream
Hi ponders, I have a piece of music with alternative ending. The last measure prior to the alternative is a single voice has a tied note to both endings. I'v e tried two methods but both methods produce similar error: {with no tie} Any help would be appreciated. *.ly:100:42: warning: unterminat

Re: Tweaking completion ties

2023-07-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> It didn’t work in the \alterBroken command (perhaps because it’s accessed > before line breaking?) \alterBroken does not support subproperties yet. Best, Jean signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Tweaking completion ties

2023-07-25 Thread Michael Seifert
Thanks, that’s good to know. In the end, while playing with \alterBroken I discovered that I could increase Tie.details.vertical-distance-penalty-factor to get the effect I wanted. It didn’t work in the \alterBroken command (perhaps because it’s accessed before line breaking?) but it

Re: Tweaking completion ties

2023-07-24 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Hi, If you just want to tweak both parts of the broken tie that extends over the line break, you should simply put the override before the note where it starts, like this: \version "2.24.1" \relative c' { 1~ 1~ 1~ 1~ \override Tie.direction = #UP 1~ \break 1 R1*3 } If you want to adj

Tweaking completion ties

2023-07-24 Thread Michael Seifert
Hello everyone, Is there an easy way to tweak the “completion ties” that are created at the start of a new system when a line break occurs during a tie? I haven’t been able to figure out what the correct “handle” is for these objects. In the example below, I can modify the

Re: broken slurs shorter than ties

2023-06-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Suprisingly, no – at least I couldn't find an entry.  I've now created >> >> https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6631 > > And there is now https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/2043 > > See, if you report problems, there is a chance they actually get > fixed :-) Wi

Re: broken slurs shorter than ties

2023-06-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le vendredi 16 juin 2023 à 20:21 +, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > Suprisingly, no – at least I couldn't find an entry.  I've now created > > https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6631 And there is now https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/2043 See, if you report problem

Re: broken slurs shorter than ties

2023-06-16 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Cough, cough. I have found this to work: > > ``` > \version "2.25.5" > > #(set-default-paper-size "a6") > > { > d'4 e' g' d' | > d'4 e' g' d'( ~ | > \once \override Staff.KeySignature.break-visibility = #all-invisible > \break > d'4) e' f' d' | > d'4 e' f' d' | > } > ``` Very int

Re: broken slurs shorter than ties

2023-06-16 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le vendredi 16 juin 2023 à 05:37 +, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > In my opinion, the worst flaw of LilyPond's otherwise excellent > formatting, a flaw that essentially everyone encounters rather > quickly, is that broken slurs are almost always shorter than broken > ties (it

broken slurs shorter than ties

2023-06-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
In my opinion, the worst flaw of LilyPond's otherwise excellent formatting, a flaw that essentially everyone encounters rather quickly, is that broken slurs are almost always shorter than broken ties (it should be exactly the opposite), which is butt ugly and sometimes really hampers readab

Re: How to control ties direction between chords

2023-04-21 Thread Volodymyr Prokopyuk
Thank you Brian and Willian for your working solution! [image: image.png] Thank you, Vlad On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 5:12 PM William Rehwinkel < will...@williamrehwinkel.net> wrote: > Dear Vlad, > > Inserting ^~ and _~ to the individual notes in the chord should work > nicely, Like so. > > Thanks,

Re: How to control ties direction between chords

2023-04-21 Thread William Rehwinkel via LilyPond user discussion
Dear Vlad, Inserting ^~ and _~ to the individual notes in the chord should work nicely, Like so. Thanks, -William \version "2.25.2" \relative { \clef treble \key c \major \time 4/4 << \new Voice = voiceOne \relative { \voiceOne 4 8 } \new Voice = voiceTwo \rel

How to control ties direction between chords

2023-04-21 Thread Volodymyr Prokopyuk
Hi, How can I force the lower tie to be placed downward in the below code snippet? I've tried \once \tieDown but with no luck. \version "2.25.3" \relative { \clef treble \key c \major \time 4/4 << \new Voice = voiceOne \relative { \voiceOne 4~ 8 } \new Voice = voi

Re: Quirk with short, but not too short, ties

2023-01-02 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 at 05:28, Aaron Hill wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I noticed a peculiar quirk with how short ties are handled in LilyPond. > Take a look at the attached image (source code provided below). Notice > that the ties are not positioned the same. I suspect it might b

Quirk with short, but not too short, ties

2023-01-02 Thread Aaron Hill
Hi folks, I noticed a peculiar quirk with how short ties are handled in LilyPond. Take a look at the attached image (source code provided below). Notice that the ties are not positioned the same. I suspect it might be because the Fs are not the same distance away from each other, so in one

Re: How to engrave this (screenshot attached) 12/8 time (looks like an arpeggio with ties)

2022-09-16 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Thank you! On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 10:12 PM Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > > How to engrave this (screenshot attached) 12/8 time (looks like an > > arpeggio with ties) > > Exactly. Look up the Notation Reference Index under 'arpeggio and > ties'... > > > Werner

Re: How to engrave this (screenshot attached) 12/8 time (looks like an arpeggio with ties)

2022-09-16 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> How to engrave this (screenshot attached) 12/8 time (looks like an > arpeggio with ties) Exactly. Look up the Notation Reference Index under 'arpeggio and ties'... Werner

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-27 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 23/07/2022 à 12:49, Lukas-Fabian Moser a écrit : >>>> >>>> Hi Andrew, >>>> >>>> Am 23.07.22 um 03:49 schrieb Andrew Bernard: >>>>> I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in different >>>>> voices. I know tha

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-27 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2022-07-27 1:41 am, Thomas Morley wrote: I stumbled across a certain condition. In tie-column::add_tie there is (> (car (ly:grob-spanned-column-rank-interval tie-column)) (car (ly:grob-spanned-column-rank-interval tie-column))) How could this ever be true? L

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-27 Thread Thomas Morley
t; Am 23.07.22 um 03:49 schrieb Andrew Bernard: > > >> I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in different > > >> voices. I know that there was a Google Summer of Code task that could > > >> not be completed. > > > > > > A few w

Re: invisibly short ties in multiple voices

2022-07-26 Thread Jim Cline
Hi Knute, that's great, thanks very much!--Jim

Re: invisibly short ties in multiple voices

2022-07-26 Thread Knute Snortum
On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 11:03 AM Jim Cline wrote: > > I am frequently getting ties that are so short as to be invisible. This > was discussed in a previous thread, and I was happily using the solution > given by > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-02/msg00069.h

invisibly short ties in multiple voices

2022-07-26 Thread Jim Cline
I am frequently getting ties that are so short as to be invisible. This was discussed in a previous thread, and I was happily using the solution given by https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-02/msg00069.html, which is to insert \once \override Score.NoteColumn.X-offset = 1.5

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-26 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Sa., 23. Juli 2022 um 19:15 Uhr schrieb Jean Abou Samra : > > > > Le 23/07/2022 à 12:49, Lukas-Fabian Moser a écrit : > > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > Am 23.07.22 um 03:49 schrieb Andrew Bernard: > >> I know that we can't natively make ties between

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-24 Thread William Rehwinkel
that don't make sense to me from a semantical perspective. Ties across voices is such a thing. How would that make sense? Yes, there has been a master in the past who did it, but nevertheless, it has (in developer speak) has a smell. Should I omit or correct that in my score? After all ties describe

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-23 Thread Andrew Bernard
five part works. Andrew On 24/07/2022 3:27 am, Stephan Schöll wrote: But from time to time I encounter things that don't make sense to me from a semantical perspective. Ties across voices is such a thing. How would that make sense? Yes, there has been a master in the past who did it, but

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-23 Thread William Rehwinkel
deas solutions. But from time to time I encounter things that don't make sense to me from a semantical perspective. Ties across voices is such a thing. How would that make sense? Yes, there has been a master in the past who did it, but nevertheless, it has (in developer speak) has a smell. Sh

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-23 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 23/07/2022 à 19:14, Jean Abou Samra a écrit : to = #(define-music-function (ctx mus) (symbol? ly:music?)    (make-music 'ContextExclusiveMusic 'target ctx 'element mus)) P.S. With some parser fiddling (and at the cost of making \to a reserved identifier), it should be possible to give \to a

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-23 Thread Stephan Schöll
go. And then we have this fantastic list that comes up with ideas solutions. But from time to time I encounter things that don't make sense to me from a semantical perspective. Ties across voices is such a thing. How would that make sense? Yes, there has been a master in the past who did it, but neve

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-23 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 23/07/2022 à 12:49, Lukas-Fabian Moser a écrit : Hi Andrew, Am 23.07.22 um 03:49 schrieb Andrew Bernard: I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in different voices. I know that there was a Google Summer of Code task that could not be completed. A few weeks ago, I

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-23 Thread William Rehwinkel
I second Kieren's sentiment, thanks for this extension Lukas-Fabian. I'll remember this extension if the need for it pops up! -William On 7/23/22 06:49, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: Hi Andrew, Am 23.07.22 um 03:49 schrieb Andrew Bernard: I know that we can't natively make ties b

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-23 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Lukas! As someone who writes/engraves a LOT of keyboard music: THANK YOU!! Excited that there might even be a Slur version in the [near] future. Best, Kieren.

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-23 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Andrew, Am 23.07.22 um 03:49 schrieb Andrew Bernard: I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in different voices. I know that there was a Google Summer of Code task that could not be completed. A few weeks ago, I sent you the following privately (I was too timid to po

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-22 Thread Andrew Bernard
I was just asking. It is possible to do open source to an agreed roadmap, but that's not how it is for LilyPond, so now I know. On 23/07/2022 4:42 pm, Jean Abou Samra wrote: Le 23/07/2022 à 08:11, Andrew Bernard a écrit : I thought there may be a roadmap that contributors create? Or is curren

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-22 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 23/07/2022 à 08:11, Andrew Bernard a écrit : I thought there may be a roadmap that contributors create? Or is current development just more or less ad hoc? Like most community-driven free software projects, LilyPond is developed as a hobby by contributors who do that each for their own reas

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-22 Thread Andrew Bernard
I thought there may be a roadmap that contributors create? Or is current development just more or less ad hoc? I am aware that it is currently a difficult problem, as I said. On 23/07/2022 4:04 pm, Jean Abou Samra wrote: It's not possible to answer your question, as most plans to develop fun

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-22 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 23/07/2022 à 03:49, Andrew Bernard a écrit : I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in different voices. I know that there was a Google Summer of Code task that could not be completed. This is such a critical feature for keyboard music. When there are hundreds of such

Re: Ties between voices

2022-07-22 Thread William Rehwinkel
ot;Slur_performer"     }   } } End of snippet -William On 7/22/22 21:49, Andrew Bernard wrote: I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in different voices. I know that there was a Google Summer of Code task that could not be completed. This is such a critical feature for

Ties between voices

2022-07-22 Thread Andrew Bernard
I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in different voices. I know that there was a Google Summer of Code task that could not be completed. This is such a critical feature for keyboard music. When there are hundreds of such ties in major pieces, it is just too tedious to d

Re: Ties between voices

2022-06-03 Thread Andrew Bernard
Complete coincidence. Andrew Kevin Cole wrote on 4/06/2022 4:28 AM: On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 2:10 PM Andrew Bernard mailto:andrew.bern...@mailbox.org>> wrote: I've been away from LilyPond for a long time. Can we now make ties and or/slurs between notes in different voic

Re: Ties between voices

2022-06-03 Thread Andrew Bernard
Thanks Jean, I recall this now. A pity this hit a brick wall. In my scores I need it a lot. Dorico does it with ease, so I am going to have to go back to that. Sigh. Jean Abou Samra wrote on 4/06/2022 5:49 AM: See the recent thread https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2022-05/msg

Re: Ties between voices

2022-06-03 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 3 juin 2022 à 20:09, Andrew Bernard a écrit : > > I've been away from LilyPond for a long time. Can we now make ties and > or/slurs between notes in different voices? I can't seem to find any > documentation on this. See the recent thread https://lists.gnu.

Ties between voices

2022-06-03 Thread Andrew Bernard
I've been away from LilyPond for a long time. Can we now make ties and or/slurs between notes in different voices? I can't seem to find any documentation on this.

RE: Help with ties and accidentals

2022-03-26 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Keith, Been there, done that. You are welcome. Continue to play with Lilypond. It shall reward your efforts. Mark From: KEITH LYNN [mailto:klyn...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 7:00 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek ; Lilypond-User Mailing List Subject: RE: Help with ties

RE: Help with ties and accidentals

2022-03-26 Thread KEITH LYNN
> See the attached. > > > > Mark > > > > From: KEITH LYNN [mailto:klyn...@comcast.net] > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 6:28 PM > To: Mark Stephen Mrotek ; Lilypond-User Mailing > List > Subject: RE: Help with ties

RE: Help with ties and accidentals

2022-03-26 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Keith, See the attached. Mark From: KEITH LYNN [mailto:klyn...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 6:28 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek ; Lilypond-User Mailing List Subject: RE: Help with ties and accidentals Sorry for the mistake on the links Original - Music <h

RE: Help with ties and accidentals

2022-03-26 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Subject: RE: Help with ties and accidentals Sorry for the mistake on the links Original - Music <http://69.246.129.36/002.jpg> Lilypond Input - Input <http://69.246.129.36/input1.jpg> Ouput - Output <http://69.246.129.36/input2.jpg> On 03/26/2022 9:12 PM KEIT

RE: Help with ties and accidentals

2022-03-26 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
: Help with ties and accidentals Mark, I'm trying to reproduce the following sheet music Original <http://69.246.129.36/002.jpg> I'm using this code to try to produce it Lilypond file <http://69.246.129.36/002.jpg> And it's produc

RE: Help with ties and accidentals

2022-03-26 Thread KEITH LYNN
t; > > > > > > > Keith, > > > > > > > > Please provide a minimum working code of what you want. > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > F

Re: Help with ties and accidentals

2022-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
KEITH LYNN writes: > Mark, > I'm trying to reproduce the following sheet music > > Original http://69.246.129.36/002.jpg > > I'm using this code to try to produce it > > Lilypond file http://69.246.129.36/002.jpg > > And it's producing this result > > Output http://69.246.129.36/002.jpg > That's

RE: Help with ties and accidentals

2022-03-26 Thread KEITH LYNN
code of what you want. > > > > Mark > > > > From: KEITH LYNN [mailto:klyn...@comcast.net] > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 3:22 PM > To: Mark Stephen Mrotek > Subject: RE: Help with ties and accidentals > > > Thanks Mark. Is there a way

Re: Help with ties and accidentals

2022-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
KEITH LYNN writes: > I am having trouble trying to produce a tie between a flat note and a > non flat note of the same pitch. That sounds like a misunderstanding of what "tie" means. Ties are used for connecting several notes of the same pitch into a single note of the c

RE: Help with ties and accidentals

2022-03-26 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Keith, Please provide a minimum working code of what you want. Mark From: KEITH LYNN [mailto:klyn...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 3:22 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Subject: RE: Help with ties and accidentals Thanks Mark. Is there a way to prevent the natural symbol

Help with ties and accidentals

2022-03-26 Thread KEITH LYNN
I am having trouble trying to produce a tie between a flat note and a non flat note of the same pitch. For example, I want to tie a bes to a b, but instead of producing the tie symbol, it places a natural symbol in front of the second note. How do I stop that? Thanks.

Re: Ambitus_engraver causes ghost laissezVibrer ties on first note of Voice

2022-03-23 Thread Jeff Olson
\grace{ s } before the first note will fix this, as will putting the whole thing into a single note chord . I suppose that the Ambitus_engraver creates the Ambitus Note Heads in the same timestep as the first Note Column, which results in them being acknowledged by the engravers for semi-ties. Cheers

Re: Ambitus_engraver causes ghost laissezVibrer ties on first note of Voice

2022-03-23 Thread Valentin Petzel
s, as will putting the whole thing into a single note chord . I suppose that the Ambitus_engraver creates the Ambitus Note Heads in the same timestep as the first Note Column, which results in them being acknowledged by the engravers for semi-ties. Cheers, Valentin Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2022, 06

Ambitus_engraver causes ghost laissezVibrer ties on first note of Voice

2022-03-22 Thread Jeff Olson
Do you like ghosts? Putting an LV tie on the first note of a Voice in which there is an ambitus generates two unwelcome "ghost" LV ties floating unattached above and below the note, in addition to the desired single LV tie that is properly attached to the note.  Here is the MWE

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

2022-01-09 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 09/01/2022 à 19:06, Richard Shann a écrit : On Sun, 2022-01-09 at 12:48 -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Richard, I guess this means it is not a well-known feature. Not well-known, likely… but sure seems like a bug and not a feature to me.  =) It seems to me like a superset of these tw

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

2022-01-09 Thread Richard Shann
delines which suggest > > what choice should be made? > > It is traditional to place ties on whole notes as if they had stems: > above if the stems would go down, below if the stems would go up. So > the question here reduces to the question of which side the stems > would be o

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

2022-01-09 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Richard, > I guess this means it is not a well-known feature. Not well-known, likely… but sure seems like a bug and not a feature to me. =) > Does anyone have an idea if there are guidelines which suggest > what choice should be made? It is traditional to place ties on whole no

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

2022-01-09 Thread Richard Shann
Do you > > have some code you can send us? > > > > Cheers, > > Valentin > > > > Am Sonntag, 9. Jänner 2022, 13:34:48 CET schrieb Richard Shann: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Has anyone experienced the direction of ties on a series of tied > > >

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

2022-01-09 Thread Thomas Morley
schrieb Richard Shann: > > Hi, > > > > Has anyone experienced the direction of ties on a series of tied notes > > on the center line of the staff flipping direction, seemingly at > > random? > > > > I attach an example, but I haven't been able to cut the file con

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

2022-01-09 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hi Richard, It is hard to try to understand the problem with just some pictures. Do you have some code you can send us? Cheers, Valentin Am Sonntag, 9. Jänner 2022, 13:34:48 CET schrieb Richard Shann: > Hi, > > Has anyone experienced the direction of ties on a series of tied notes

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

2022-01-09 Thread Knute Snortum
On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:36 AM Richard Shann wrote: > > Hi, > > Has anyone experienced the direction of ties on a series of tied notes > on the center line of the staff flipping direction, seemingly at > random? I suspect you are using a tie without a direction character. This

Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

2022-01-09 Thread Richard Shann
Hi, Has anyone experienced the direction of ties on a series of tied notes on the center line of the staff flipping direction, seemingly at random? I attach an example, but I haven't been able to cut the file concerned down while keeping the effect - if I delete the lyrics for exampl

Re: ties with accidental split over lines

2021-11-26 Thread David Zelinsky
and I have found a bunch of cases where broken ties intersect the accidental. But I'm happy to defer to others with much more experience than I have. :) -David Knute Snortum writes: > I think it is the slur that is lower, not the accidental that is > higher, and I think its placement

Re: ties with accidental split over lines

2021-11-26 Thread Knute Snortum
ur"}) % 5 } -- Knute Snortum On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 6:34 PM David Zelinsky wrote: > > When a tie on an accidental is split over two systems, Lilypond shows > the accidental on both notes (which I think is correct), but then > positions the tie on the second note very high, so a

ties with accidental split over lines

2021-11-25 Thread David Zelinsky
When a tie on an accidental is split over two systems, Lilypond shows the accidental on both notes (which I think is correct), but then positions the tie on the second note very high, so as to clear the accidental. This looks wrong, since ties are generally supposed to be close to the note head

Re: Scriabin Sonata n. 2: passage with chords, voices and ties

2021-11-13 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi, Am 13.11.21 um 01:55 schrieb Leo Correia de Verdier: Since ties can only occur between noteheads in the same voice, you have to ”fake” it by introducing hidden noteheads in one of the voices that can hold the tie, for instance like: \version "2.22.0" \relative c&#

Re: Having problems with phrasing and ties combined

2021-09-15 Thread David Kastrup
Knute Snortum writes: > -- > Knute Snortum > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 5:52 AM Paul Hodges wrote: > >> As an aside to that, I wonder if it would be worth while to restrict >> access to older manuals by Google. > > I doubt we'd be able to do that, but... A suitable robots.txt file should be ab

Re: Having problems with phrasing and ties combined

2021-09-15 Thread Knute Snortum
-- Knute Snortum On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 5:52 AM Paul Hodges wrote: > As an aside to that, I wonder if it would be worth while to restrict > access to older manuals by Google. I doubt we'd be able to do that, but... > A Google search (which I often use > to include other sources of informatio

Re: Having problems with phrasing and ties combined

2021-09-15 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Hodges writes: > Thanks for the updates; I have places they will help! > > On simultaneous slurs, I guess that the identifiers were introduced in > 2.20, later than I've revisited that part of the manuals - the 2.18 > learning manual still states the prohibition. 2.19.29 for \= commit cf

Re: Having problems with phrasing and ties combined

2021-09-15 Thread Paul Hodges
Thanks for the updates; I have places they will help! On simultaneous slurs, I guess that the identifiers were introduced in 2.20, later than I've revisited that part of the manuals - the 2.18 learning manual still states the prohibition. As an aside to that, I wonder if it would be worth while

Re: Having problems with phrasing and ties combined

2021-09-15 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Hodges writes: > It's not causing your problem, but why use phrasing slurs: " \(" "\)? > Plain slurs: "(" ")" are that bit easier to write and read. They are, > as far as I know, identical in behaviour They aren't. They are typographically outward from normal slurs and are played d

Re: Having problems with phrasing and ties combined

2021-09-15 Thread Paul Hodges
ht maybe that was my problem? Ties are indicated by ~ and that's that; there cannot be a problem there. Chords can be tied on all notes by placing it after the whole chord, or you can place it after individual notes in the chord for special requirements. It's not causing y

Re: Having problems with phrasing and ties combined

2021-09-14 Thread Carlos Martinez
Ok! thanks. I need to learn how to update on a Mac when using frescobaldi. > On Sep 14, 2021, at 18:17, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > Le 15/09/2021 à 01:15, Carlos Martinez a écrit : >> Is it this? >> >> Starting lilypond 2.18.2 [nameofile.ly ]... >> Processing >> `/var/fold

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