Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2014-09-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2014-09-08 12:51 GMT+00:00 Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl: Hi, Often when processing music imported from Sibelius I have the problem that Sibelius doesn't seem to care whether a tie connects notes of the same pitch. As a consequence, some Sibelius users have become lazy and always

Treating a tie as a slur

2014-09-08 Thread Johan Vromans
Hi, Often when processing music imported from Sibelius I have the problem that Sibelius doesn't seem to care whether a tie connects notes of the same pitch. As a consequence, some Sibelius users have become lazy and always use a tie even when the pitches differ. LiliPond emits an error message

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2014-09-08 Thread Urs Liska
Maybe you could ask the people at NeoScores. They are working on (or have aleady released?) a MusiXML cleaning tool. IIUC this is one type of issues they might addtess. Urs On 8. September 2014 14:51:18 MESZ, Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl wrote: Hi, Often when processing music imported

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Il 13/11/2010 09:45, David Kastrup ha scritto: Valentin Villenavevalen...@villenave.net writes: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Johan Vromansjvrom...@squirrel.nl wrote: Is there a reason why LP doesn't flag this as an error? Yes, because users might want to set

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Lilypond would see if that were the case. What, are you implying that LilyPond should decide that #1: a~ b ...means a slur BUT #2: \set tieWaitForNote = ##t a~ b c d | e1 | a, ...means a tie BUT #3: a~ b c d [insert 42

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net writes: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Lilypond would see if that were the case. What, are you implying that LilyPond should decide that #1: a~ b ...means a slur Means bad input. Configurable to be treated as

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:38 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Means a tie, as indicated by the user. Oh. So, setting tieWaitForNote would disable the automatic-slurs feature? Means bad input.  Configurable to be treated as a slur to b. Then it would no longer be bad input, would it? I

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net writes: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:38 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Means a tie, as indicated by the user. Oh. So, setting tieWaitForNote would disable the automatic-slurs feature? They would be mutually exclusive, and both off by default,

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Johan Vromans
Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net writes: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Lilypond would see if that were the case. What, are you implying that LilyPond should decide that ... This seems haphazard to me. Perhaps I misunderstood your comment? I

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Jan Warchoł
2010/11/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net writes: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:38 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Means a tie, as indicated by the user. Oh. So, setting tieWaitForNote would disable the automatic-slurs feature? They would be

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Johan Vromans wrote Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:36 PM Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net writes: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Lilypond would see if that were the case. What, are you implying that LilyPond should decide that ... This seems

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: a~ b should not be silently ignored, but issue a warning or error. Ok, I've opened two tracker pages: one about the warning message, and another one about the tie-turned-slur feature request:

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-13 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net writes: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl wrote: Is there a reason why LP doesn't flag this as an error? Yes, because users might want to set tieWaitForNote = ##t in which case a ~ b will wait for another a in order

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-12 Thread Johan Vromans
Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes: We all know the difference between a tie and a slur, but some people are lax and some composer software packages don't really care... After automatic conversion of sibelius scores to lilypond I often have ties where a slur is needed, i.e., between

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl wrote: Is there a reason why LP doesn't flag this as an error? Yes, because users might want to set tieWaitForNote = ##t in which case a ~ b will wait for another a in order to close the tie. Cheers, Valentin.

Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-11 Thread Johan Vromans
We all know the difference between a tie and a slur, but some people are lax and some composer software packages don't really care... After automatic conversion of sibelius scores to lilypond I often have ties where a slur is needed, i.e., between notes of different pitch. LilyPond ignores such a

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-11 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl wrote: We all know the difference between a tie and a slur, but some people are lax and some composer software packages don't really care... After automatic conversion of sibelius scores to lilypond I often have ties where a

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-11 Thread Johan Vromans
Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net writes: Are you referring to something like http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=461 ? Not quite. I was referring to two really different notes (e.g. a and b). These should not be tied but it would be nice if a ~ b was treated as a ( b )

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-11 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 11.11.2010 17:20, schrieb Johan Vromans: Valentin Villenavevalen...@villenave.net writes: Are you referring to something like http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=461 ? Not quite. I was referring to two really different notes (e.g. a and b). These should not be