Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2014-09-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2014-09-08 12:51 GMT+00:00 Johan Vromans : > Hi, > > Often when processing music imported from Sibelius I have the problem > that Sibelius doesn't seem to care whether a tie connects notes of the > same pitch. As a consequence, some Sibelius users have become lazy and > always use a tie even w

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2014-09-08 Thread Urs Liska
Maybe you could ask the people at NeoScores. They are working on (or have aleady released?) a MusiXML cleaning tool. IIUC this is one type of issues they might addtess. Urs On 8. September 2014 14:51:18 MESZ, Johan Vromans wrote: >Hi, > >Often when processing music imported from Sibelius I hav

Treating a tie as a slur

2014-09-08 Thread Johan Vromans
Hi, Often when processing music imported from Sibelius I have the problem that Sibelius doesn't seem to care whether a tie connects notes of the same pitch. As a consequence, some Sibelius users have become lazy and always use a tie even when the pitches differ. LiliPond emits an error message wh

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: >>> a~ b >> should not be silently ignored, but issue a warning or error. Ok, I've opened two tracker pages: one about the warning message, and another one about the tie-turned-slur feature request: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/de

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Johan Vromans wrote Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:36 PM Valentin Villenave writes: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Lilypond would see if that were the case. What, are you implying that LilyPond should decide that ... This seems haphazard to me. Perhaps I misundersto

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Jan Warchoł
2010/11/14 David Kastrup > Valentin Villenave writes: > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:38 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Means a tie, as indicated by the user. > > > > Oh. So, setting tieWaitForNote would disable the "automatic-slurs" > > feature? > > They would be mutually exclusive, and both o

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Johan Vromans
Valentin Villenave writes: > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Lilypond would see if that were the case. > > What, are you implying that LilyPond should decide that > ... > This seems haphazard to me. Perhaps I misunderstood your comment? I don't know what exactly tieWait

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Villenave writes: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:38 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Means a tie, as indicated by the user. > > Oh. So, setting tieWaitForNote would disable the "automatic-slurs" > feature? They would be mutually exclusive, and both off by default, resulting in a warning inste

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:38 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Means a tie, as indicated by the user. Oh. So, setting tieWaitForNote would disable the "automatic-slurs" feature? > Means bad input.  Configurable to be treated as a slur to b. Then it would no longer be "bad input", would it? I was abo

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Villenave writes: > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Lilypond would see if that were the case. > > What, are you implying that LilyPond should decide that > > #1: > a~ b > > ...means a slur Means bad input. Configurable to be treated as a slur to b. > BUT > >

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Lilypond would see if that were the case. What, are you implying that LilyPond should decide that #1: a~ b ...means a slur BUT #2: \set tieWaitForNote = ##t a~ b c d | e1 | a, ...means a tie BUT #3: a~ b c d [insert 42 measures here w

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-14 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Il 13/11/2010 09:45, David Kastrup ha scritto: Valentin Villenave writes: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Johan Vromans wrote: Is there a reason why LP doesn't flag this as an error? Yes, because users might want to set tieWaitForNote = ##t in which case "a ~ b" will wait

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-13 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Villenave writes: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Johan Vromans wrote: >> Is there a reason why LP doesn't flag this as an error? > > Yes, because users might want to set tieWaitForNote = ##t in which > case "a ~ b" will wait for another "a" in order to close the tie. Lilypond would

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Johan Vromans wrote: > Is there a reason why LP doesn't flag this as an error? Yes, because users might want to set tieWaitForNote = ##t in which case "a ~ b" will wait for another "a" in order to close the tie. Cheers, Valentin.

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-12 Thread Johan Vromans
Johan Vromans writes: > We all know the difference between a tie and a slur, but some people are > lax and some composer software packages don't really care... > > After automatic conversion of sibelius scores to lilypond I often have > ties where a slur is needed, i.e., between notes of differen

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-11 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 11.11.2010 17:20, schrieb Johan Vromans: Valentin Villenave writes: Are you referring to something like http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=461 ? Not quite. I was referring to two really different notes (e.g. a and b). These should not be tied but it would be nice

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-11 Thread Johan Vromans
Valentin Villenave writes: > Are you referring to something like > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=461 ? Not quite. I was referring to two really different notes (e.g. a and b). These should not be tied but it would be nice if a ~ b was treated as a ( b ) . It's not a big is

Re: Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-11 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Johan Vromans wrote: > We all know the difference between a tie and a slur, but some people are > lax and some composer software packages don't really care... > > After automatic conversion of sibelius scores to lilypond I often have > ties where a slur is needed,

Treating a tie as a slur

2010-11-11 Thread Johan Vromans
We all know the difference between a tie and a slur, but some people are lax and some composer software packages don't really care... After automatic conversion of sibelius scores to lilypond I often have ties where a slur is needed, i.e., between notes of different pitch. LilyPond ignores such a