v. 2.11 for new users [WAS: Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef]

2008-11-16 Thread Jonathan Kulp
There is a point in the development course from stable to next stable, where people should move to the current development release and forget the old one. These days too many people uses 2.10 and its old documentation. If a new user wants to start using LilyPond, I undoubtedly send him to

Re: v. 2.11 for new users [WAS: Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef]

2008-11-16 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Jonathan Kulp wrote: I imagine that the reason many people still start out with 2.10.33 (on Linux at least) is because 2.10.33 is the version in the repositories or is even pre-installed in the distro (e.g. Ubuntu Studio). For these cases there should perhaps be a warning about correct

Re: v. 2.11 for new users [WAS: Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef]

2008-11-16 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/16 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is a point in the development course from stable to next stable, where people should move to the current development release and forget the old one. These days too many people uses 2.10 and its old documentation. If a new user wants to start

Re: v. 2.11 for new users [WAS: Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef]

2008-11-16 Thread David Stocker
For what it's worth, remember that as documented on this forum, you shouldn't have to uninstall 2.10 on Ubuntu Studio before you install a newer version if you install in your home directory. The 'lilypond' command calls LilyPond from the home directory before it looks for it elsewhere. After

Re: v. 2.11 for new users [WAS: Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef]

2008-11-16 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:03 PM, David Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth, remember that as documented on this forum, you shouldn't have to uninstall 2.10 on Ubuntu Studio before you install a newer version if you install in your home directory. The 'lilypond' command calls

confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-15 Thread chip
I have a piece written for Eb Alto Sax and would like to transpose it to Bass Clef Trombone. I've read a bunch of posts in the archives and am now more confused than ever. It should be relatively easy, as the bass clef bone should be able to read the notes as written, but just change the key

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-15 Thread Jonathan Kulp
For transposing from E-flat to concert pitch, see the docs on transposition, here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Transpose To change it to bass clef, just use a command \clef bass The easiest way to put put music into a different clef/register is to

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-15 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Jonathan Kulp wrote: For transposing from E-flat to concert pitch, see the docs on transposition, here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Transpose To change it to bass clef, just use a command \clef bass The easiest way to put put music into a different

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-15 Thread chip
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that is all there is to it. I changed the clef to Bass and in doing so the notes change position on the staff. I want to have the notes remain in the same positions on the staff in bass clef as they are in treble clef. Only the key signature should

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-15 Thread Jonathan Kulp
wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that is all there is to it. I changed the clef to Bass and in doing so the notes change position on the staff. I want to have the notes remain in the same positions on the staff in bass clef as they are in treble clef. Only the key signature should

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-15 Thread chip
don't think that is all there is to it. I changed the clef to Bass and in doing so the notes change position on the staff. I want to have the notes remain in the same positions on the staff in bass clef as they are in treble clef. Only the key signature should change. The Alto Sax part

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:04:47PM -0700, chip wrote: caused by this code - ... lots of stuff in the copy/pasted section below ... \bar |. } \score { \new

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-15 Thread chip
I have read the bloody manuals, all of them. I finally found the part I need in the part I skipped over because it didn't apply to my work - 3.4 An Orchestral Part. I found the code I needed to see by clicking on the picture of the score fragment, then I saw that the \transpose was in front of

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-15 Thread Graham Percival
Ah, I see the problem. You were looking at the 2.10 docs, which are approximately a thousand hours older than the 2.11 docs. As you might expect from 1,000 hours of work, the 2.11 docs are much easier to read. - Graham On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:38:07PM -0700, chip wrote: I have read the

Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

2008-11-15 Thread chip
So even though I am using 2.10.33 (latest stable I believe) I should be looking at the 2.11 docs? -- Chip Graham Percival wrote: Ah, I see the problem. You were looking at the 2.10 docs, which are approximately a thousand hours older than the 2.11 docs. As you might expect from 1,000 hours

Re: Treble Clef wraps around middle line instead of line 2

2006-11-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor
It's a bug in JPedal that is fixed in the current development release of LilyPondTool. I'll make a release soon. Bert ian_hulin írta: I think this is one for Bert. If I use the Lilypond Tool Viewer to look at/print pdf files produced by Lilypond V2.10-1 the treble clef is wrapped around

Re: stems in the treble clef

2006-03-04 Thread Erik Sandberg
Citerar Annette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I noticed that when I do the examples in the tutorial, the stems in the treble clef go up in your examples and yet when I do them, the stems go down. The only time I can make them go up is when I did that example of deciding where to draw the beam

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