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Dear all,
I suppose my last mail sounded too technical (thanks Valentin for pointing
this out), so here I'm again with some clarifications:
For the new Lilypond documentation we are looking for a good screen design
(i.e. a mockup image of how the pa
Here's my initial design submission for the docs - it's just a gentle
modification of the CSS file:
- use "Century Schoolbook L" if available to match the LilyPond output
(Georgia is also a good option)
- links are only underlined when hovered upon
- the colors are taken from the Monet "Waterlilies
Am 2008-09-06 um 22:38 schrieb Andrew Hawryluk:
Here's my initial design submission for the docs - it's just a gentle
modification of the CSS file:
- use "Century Schoolbook L" if available to match the LilyPond output
You could also add "TeX Gyre Schola" (the same, as used by up-to-date
TeX
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Hello Andrew,
Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 schrieb Andrew Hawryluk:
> Here's my initial design submission for the docs - it's just a gentle
> modification of the CSS file:
Thanks a lot!
> - use "Century Schoolbook L" if available to match the LilyP
Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 11:49 +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer a
écrit :
> Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 schrieb Andrew Hawryluk:
> > Here's my initial design submission for the docs - it's just a gentle
> > modification of the CSS file:
Cool! I applied it, and made some changes, see
http://git
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:43 PM, John Mandereau
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 11:49 +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer a
> écrit :
>> Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 schrieb Andrew Hawryluk:
>> > Here's my initial design submission for the docs - it's just a gentle
>> > modifica
> Andrew, feel free to suggest a new color for the footer :-)
>
> Cheers,
> John
You could change the footer from #e8ffe8 to #e7efe3 and the border
from #c0ffc0 to #ccd3cc. It looks like the padding/spacing in the
footer could be improved but for now I'm more curious to see Patrick's
design (and o
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Am Samstag, 13. September 2008 schrieb John Mandereau:
> BTW I don't know what "#CCF" was
> supposed to mean as a color.
#rgb is the official CSS color shortcut for #rrggbb, see
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/syndata.html#color-units
> > Actually, on -dev
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:11:20 -0700
"Patrick McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrew has been the only one to submit a design so far, but how are we
> going to decide which design to use if 10 more people submit designs?
What a horrible problem to have. :)
- find any common issues amongst t
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 05:25:33PM -0700, Graham Percival wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:11:20 -0700
> "Patrick McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Andrew has been the only one to submit a design so far, but how are we
> > going to decide which design to use if 10 more people submit designs
On 2008/09/13 01:36 +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> #rgb is the official CSS color shortcut for #rrggbb, see
> http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/syndata.html#color-units
Ah, I'll be less ignorant when I go to bed tonight, as we say in French :-)
> And yet, a font specification sneaked into the .css f
Le vendredi 12 septembre 2008 à 17:32 -0600, Andrew Hawryluk a écrit :
> > Andrew, feel free to suggest a new color for the footer :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > John
>
> You could change the footer from #e8ffe8 to #e7efe3 and the border
> from #c0ffc0 to #ccd3cc.
Thanks, I applied these changes.
> I
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For the new Lilypond documentation we are looking for a good screen design
> (i.e. a mockup image of how the page should look like. You don't need to
> implement it!).
I'm planning on ironing out some font-size sca
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Am Sonntag, 14. September 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For the new Lilypond documentation we are looking for a good screen
> > design (i.e. a mockup image of how
Am 2008-09-14 um 05:18 schrieb Patrick McCarty:
http://uoregon.edu/~pmccarty/texi2html/start.html
The clickable links are:
* Notation Reference
* one big page (for the Notation Reference)
* Developers resources
Looks good so far, but I'd suggest to make the underlining of links a
bit less
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Looks good so far, but I'd suggest to make the underlining of links a bit
> less annoying, esp. in the navigation frame where there are lots of them.
> Something like:
>
> a {
>text-decoration: none;
>
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Am Sonntag, 14. September 2008 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
> Looks good so far, but I'd suggest to make the underlining of links a
> bit less annoying, esp. in the navigation frame where there are lots
> of them.
> Something like:
>
> a {
> text
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Am Sonntag, 14. September 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > Regarding the tables, e.g. "Note names in other languages":
> > I'd suggest
> >
> > th, td {
> >verti
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I also compressed the spacing of the footer and changed the link's
>> appearance, as Reinhold suggested.
>
> Yes, that looks much better. I'm still wondering if we need the line
> "This document was generated by Pa
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Am Sonntag, 14. September 2008 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer:
> > a:hover {
> > /*
> > change the text color like you do
> > hide the underlining/border if you wish, I'd rather not
> > */
>
> I would remove underlining, because the differe
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer
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> Am Sonntag, 14. September 2008 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer:
>> > a:hover {
>> > /*
>> > change the text color like you do
>> > hide the underlining/border
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On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:50:36 Patrick McCarty wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I also compressed the spacing of the footer and changed the link's
> >> appearance, as Reinhold sugge
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
I now added Patrick's design as an alternative stylesheet in git and
triggered a rebuild of the docs on kainhofer.com. This way we can
evaluate at the same time all the designs we get and then decide which
we should use (or which aspects of which design should b
Might as well throw in Jakob Nielson's Top Ten Mistakes in Web
Design.
Patrick
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks, it let me get a good look at it. All in all, so far I prefer
> Patrick's except for unvisited links. It's not obvious enough that they are
> something to click on until I hover. The color is so close to the co
2008/9/17 Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Thanks, it let me get a good look at it. All in all, so far I prefer
> Patrick's except for unvisited links.
OK, two Patricks in one discussion... You just lost me guys :-)
I like the "default" theme's blue-grey colors *very* much, it feels
both c
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Valentin Villenave
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/9/17 Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Thanks, it let me get a good look at it. All in all, so far I prefer
>> Patrick's except for unvisited links.
>
> OK, two Patricks in one discussion... You just lost
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I now added Patrick's design as an alternative stylesheet in git and
> triggered a rebuild of the docs on kainhofer.com. This way we can
> evaluate at the same time all the designs we get and then decide which
> we
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
>
> I now added Patrick's design as an alternative stylesheet in git and
> triggered a rebuild of the docs on kainhofer.com. This way we can
> evaluate at the same time all the designs we get and
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On Thursday 18 September 2008 00:07:13 Valentin Villenave wrote:
> I like the "default" theme's blue-grey colors *very* much, it feels
> both calm and serious.
For my taste, there are too many different shades of bluish gray on the
page, which makes
Le Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:02:55 -0700,
"Patrick McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> http://uoregon.edu/~pmccarty/texi2html/lilypond-index.html
I personally much prefer the 'green' and more 'flashy' version: it still is
quite professional but brings a kind of positive energy AND desire to read m
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:43 PM, John Mandereau
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> - the colors are taken from the Monet "Waterlilies" on the LilyPond homepage
>
> I find it a good idea, even if we might decide to change this image:
> it's a small heavily compressed JPEG image, this is not appealing
>
Andrew Hawryluk wrote:
I just learned that there are a lot of Monet Waterlilies to choose
from, so maybe this will be helpful to anyone on the list with
graphics skills:
With any of the newer browsers you can use pngs with alpha, and take any
image and give it much transparency to the point t
It's nice to see the progress with the new docs! I have 3 comments:
1. Is anyone else wanting "breadcrumbs navigation"? So often after
I've looked something up in the docs, I find myself deep inside
and if I want to switch from NR to IR, for example, I either need
to click up the many dir
I have seen the new design in action and I like it very much, I'd like
to propose a minimum of
padding:10px;
in the
body {
CSS rule. A bit more would be also possible.
Congratulations,
--
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
http://www.paconet.org
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On 2008/09/17, Reinhold Jainhofer wrote:
> On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:50:36 Patrick McCarty wrote:
> > I agree that the language selection should be included in the footer,
> > but I'm not sure how the buildscript will have to be modified.
I'm not sure how to move the lanugage menu into the fo
John Mandereau wrote:
On 2008/09/17, Reinhold Jainhofer wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:50:36 Patrick McCarty wrote:
I agree that the language selection should be included in the footer,
but I'm not sure how the buildscript will have to be modified.
2008/9/20 Francisco Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have seen the new design in action and I like it very much, I'd like
> to propose a minimum of
>
> padding:10px;
I agree; would suggest 1em.
>
> in the
>
> body {
>
> CSS rule. A bit more would be also possible.
>
> Congratulations,
> --
> Franc
2008/9/22 Dmytro O. Redchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/9/20 Francisco Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I have seen the new design in action and I like it very much, I'd like
>> to propose a minimum of
>>
>> padding:10px;
> I agree; would suggest 1em.
Yes, better.
--
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
Hi Reinhold, hi everybody,
I find the new documentation layout very impressive, but there's one
feature I'm still missing: the integrated search function!
In the attached html page I have pasted (in a very basic way) a search
box at the top of the tocframe; this is more or less the kind of
layout
I like the comprehensive navigation of the new layout [1],
but feel there is still something missing.
__
Say I am reading the mailing list, looking at a thread or message.
I see something which gets me thinking about a probl
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Am Freitag, 19. September 2008 schrieb Mark Polesky:
> It's nice to see the progress with the new docs! I have 3 comments:
>
> 1. Is anyone else wanting "breadcrumbs navigation"? So often after
>I've looked something up in the docs, I find myself d
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Am Montag, 22. September 2008 schrieb Robin Bannister:
> So I propose
>
> A
> Replace the (passive) text "Table of Contents" in the TOC panel,
> with the document title, e.g. "Learning Manual".
> This nearly always visible (on biggish screens).
> (And
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Am Montag, 22. September 2008 schrieb Valentin Villenave:
> Hi Reinhold, hi everybody,
>
> I find the new documentation layout very impressive, but there's one
> feature I'm still missing: the integrated search function!
There are many feature that *I
2008/9/22 Reinhold Kainhofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> That's hard, it probably needs AJAX...
I swear I'll look into the AJAX thingy as soon as I get a life (and
that answers your question about my opera, btw...)
There are several resources such as
http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxsearch/samples.htm
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 3:53 PM, John Mandereau
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> IMHO I prefer Patrick's design over Andrew, it's more colorful but still
> serious enough (as Valentin already wrote), and I second Patrick Horgan
> comment on links color: maybe we could make links a bit more blue?
> We
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Andrew Hawryluk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:43 PM, John Mandereau
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- the colors are taken from the Monet "Waterlilies" on the LilyPond
homepage
>>
>> I find it a good idea, even if we might decide to
- Original Message
From: Reinhold Kainhofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 1:35:50 PM
> What exactly do you understand under "breadcrumbs navigation"? The last, say,
> five visited pages? That's not possible in static html pages, as it needs
> session management an
Patrick McCarty wrote:
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 3:53 PM, John Mandereau
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
IMHO I prefer Patrick's design over Andrew, it's more colorful but still
serious enough (as Valentin already wrote), and I second Patrick Horgan
comment on links color: maybe we could
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:34:52 +0200
"Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the meantime, a small basic google search box would mean the world
> to many of us -- or at least myself :-)
Presumably these things are done with google's
site:www.lilypond.org
option. Can you also restric
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It looks great--have you figured out why your css doesn't produce underlines
> with Reinhold's copy of the documentation?
>
> Patrick
Unfortunately, no. :-(
There might be one small detail we missed when implementing
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 04:39:24PM -0700, Graham Percival wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:34:52 +0200
> "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In the meantime, a small basic google search box would mean the world
> > to many of us -- or at least myself :-)
>
> Presumably these thin
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Patrick McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> It looks great--have you figured out why your css doesn't produce underlines
>> with Reinhold's copy of the documentation?
>>
>> Patrick
>
Patrick McCarty wrote:
Okay, I know what the problem is, but the fix is not simple. Our
implementation uses a *persistent* and an *alternate* stylesheet, but
since we want the alternate stylesheet to override the default
stylesheet, many of the default styles should be in a *preferred*
styleshee
Guys, I've been busy the last few weeks and just loosely followed the
ongoing discussions about the doc design, but I just recognized you did
a great job there! And I like the unobtrusive link coloring...
However, one suggestion: Have you talked about the size of the
navigation sidebar? On my 13"
Alexander Kobel wrote:
Guys, I've been busy the last few weeks and just loosely followed the
ongoing discussions about the doc design, but I just recognized you did
a great job there! And I like the unobtrusive link coloring...
However, one suggestion: Have you talked about the size of the
navig
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Am Montag, 22. September 2008 schrieb Robin Bannister:
> So I propose
>
> A
> Replace the (passive) text "Table of Contents" in the TOC panel,
> with the document title, e.g. "Learning Manual".
> This nearly always visible (on biggish screens).
> (And
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Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty:
> My main focus with this design is cross-browser and cross-platform
> compatibility. Since the default padding, margins, line-height, etc.
> vary from element to element, and from browser to
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Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty:
> Actually, now that I've looked at this more closely, I can't figure
> out why the alternate stylesheet is not underlining the links (both
> visited and unvisited) on Reinhold's server. On my
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html
In particular, look at that page with both the current default and Patrick's
alternative style
Well done:) I still prefer Patrick's style and wish it were the
default. I also wish that Patrick's s
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Am Montag, 22. September 2008 schrieb John Mandereau:
> On 2008/09/17, Reinhold Jainhofer wrote:
> > On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:50:36 Patrick McCarty wrote:
> > > I agree that the language selection should be included in the footer,
> > > but I'm n
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Am Montag, 22. September 2008 schrieb Valentin Villenave:
> Hi Reinhold, hi everybody,
>
> I find the new documentation layout very impressive, but there's one
> feature I'm still missing: the integrated search function!
>
> In the attached html page I
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Am Dienstag, 30. September 2008 schrieb Patrick Horgan:
> Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> > http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html
> >
> > In particular, look at that page with both the current default and
> > Patrick's alter
Hi Reinhold,
I don't know whether it's something that's broken at my end (I've been
getting some weird docs breakages recently), but I've just compiled
following your latest changes and the navigation's disappeared.
One other thing I wanted to mention (I apologize if it's already been
discussed;
On 2008/09/30 14:04 -0700, Patrick Horgan wrote:
> Well done:) I still prefer Patrick's style and wish it were the
> default.
+1
John
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Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2008 schrieb John Mandereau:
> On 2008/09/30 14:04 -0700, Patrick Horgan wrote:
> > Well done:) I still prefer Patrick's style and wish it were the
> > default.
>
> +1
Okay, it seems we are the majority ;-) I've now switched t
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Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2008 schrieb Neil Puttock:
> I don't know whether it's something that's broken at my end (I've been
> getting some weird docs breakages recently), but I've just compiled
> following your latest changes and the navigation's disap
On the front page, in Opera on Linux, the word `Reference' overlaps
the previous line:
http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html
Are you specifying an interline spacing, rather than using the
natural one for the font?
Peter C
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer
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> Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty:
>> My main focus with this design is cross-browser and cross-platform
>> compatibility. Since the default
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've now turned the current default stylesheet into a preferred stylesheet, so
> its settings won't have an effect on the alternative CSS. Does it now work as
> you expect?
It works great!
Thanks,
Patrick
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On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well done:) I still prefer Patrick's style and wish it were the default. I
> also wish that Patrick's style affected the sidebar contents.
Hi Patrick,
What do you mean by the "sidebar contents"?
Thanks in advance,
-
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hmm, Does anyone have an idea how to properly format the language selection,
> so that it can be moved into the footer and still be clearly visible, so
> people don't overlook it?
I'll try something different for th
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
Huh, I don't quite understand what you mean with the last sentence... What
should be changed in the sidebar?
I like the white background on the main page, the contrast is low on the
sidebar. I think it would be much better with a white background as well.
Patrick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the front page, in Opera on Linux, the word `Reference' overlaps
the previous line:
http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html
Are you specifying an interline spacing, rather than using the
natural one for the font?
Peter C
When th
Patrick McCarty wrote:
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well done:) I still prefer Patrick's style and wish it were the default. I
also wish that Patrick's style affected the sidebar contents.
Hi Patrick,
What do you mean by t
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't know whether it's something that's broken at my end (I've been
> getting some weird docs breakages recently), but I've just compiled
> following your latest changes and the navigation's disappeared.
Strange... The
On 2008/09/30 3:45 PM, "Reinhold Kainhofer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2008 schrieb John Mandereau:
>> On 2008/09/30 14:04 -0700, Patrick Horgan wrote:
>>> Well done:) I still prefer Patrick's style and wish it were th
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Kurt Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> -1, but I've got mad enough skillz to make a user style sheet. That way, I
> can make it look however I please.
>
> I have attached my current user style sheet, to be applied in lieu of
> Patrick's styles (in case anyone's
Patrick, if you add a line-height: 1.125em; to the .settitle section it
fixes the strange overlap on small windows. The one it inherits from
the body section uses a different em, and although you specify it in
ems, it's inherited in pixels. Or in CSS speak, you don't inherit the
specified val
Patrick McCarty wrote:
I like your stylesheet, in general. But I think some of the font
sizes you are using will render parts of the documentation illegible
on certain platforms (such as in the TOC). I like your choice of
color especially.
I know that most of this is personal, but I looked a
2008/9/30 Reinhold Kainhofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2008 schrieb Neil Puttock:
>> I don't know whether it's something that's broken at my end (I've been
>> getting some weird docs breakages recently), but I've just compiled
Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2008 schrieb Kurt Kroon:
> I have attached my current user style sheet, to be applied in lieu of
> Patrick's styles (in case anyone's interested).
I've now added your CSS as another alternative style sheet so that everyone
can have a look at it and judge the different styl
The recent changes to the html/css are really a significant improvement to
the web-based documentation. Kudos to all!
But what about the pdf version? I guess, sine it's so much raw tex,
changing it may be more troublesome (at least the attempts I made failed),
but it would really be good, either
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:06:53 +0200
Eyolf __strem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But what about the pdf version? I guess, sine it's so much raw tex,
Take a look at texinfo's texi2pdf. That's how we build it; the
program converts texinfo to tex (or maybe latex; I can't
remember), and from that to pdf
> But what about the pdf version?
I suggest to ignore it for the time being. It hurts myself, but there
are so many things necessary to fix so that it becomes a well looking
document.
> I guess, sine it's so much raw tex, changing it may be more
> troublesome (at least the attempts I made fai
> Take a look at texinfo's texi2pdf. That's how we build it; the
> program converts texinfo to tex (or maybe latex; I can't
> remember), and from that to pdf.
No, the document gets directly processed by tex.
> If the built-in customization doesn't do what you want, then your
> only option is to
On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:06:14 +0200 (CEST)
Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If the built-in customization doesn't do what you want, then your
> > only option is to hack texi2pdf directly. That involves C
> > programming,
>
> Not at all. texi2pdf is a simple wrapper for the texi2dvi
> > The only possibility to customize the look of the PDF is to modify
> > texinfo.tex.
>
> Ah, I see. Well, there *is* good news for Eyolf: any modifications
> he makes can be added to the official docs instantly.
Mhmm. texinfo.tex is quite complex. Nothing for the fainthearted.
Werner
On 01.10.2008 (21:24), Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> > > The only possibility to customize the look of the PDF is to modify
> > > texinfo.tex.
> >
> > Ah, I see. Well, there *is* good news for Eyolf: any modifications
> > he makes can be added to the official docs instantly.
>
> Mhmm. texinfo.tex is
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick, if you add a line-height: 1.125em; to the .settitle section it
> fixes the strange overlap on small windows. The one it inherits from the
> body section uses a different em, and although you specify it in ems, it'
On 2008/10/01 8:30 AM, "Patrick McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Kurt Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> -1, but I've got mad enough skillz to make a user style sheet. That way, I
>> can make it look however I please.
>>
>> I have attached my current u
Kurt Kroon wrote:
And while I'm thinking about it, you could deal with the line-height issue
by setting it to 1.125, without any units.
Thanks! I'd read the section on this in the spec, (and just re-read
it), and it doesn't point out how much better it is for inheritance, and
I didn't get i
> > Mhmm. texinfo.tex is quite complex. Nothing for the
> > fainthearted.
>
> Not only is texinfo the worst beast I've ever worked
> with,
You are exaggerating. The LaTeX kernel stuff is worse IMHO.
> it's badly documented too, at least once one moves past the basics
It's getting better. U
On 02.10.2008 (07:18), Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> > Not only is texinfo the worst beast I've ever worked
> > with,
>
> You are exaggerating. The LaTeX kernel stuff is worse IMHO.
bibtex also comes to mind. But luckily, I've never had to work in any of
those directly.
Eyolf
--
"Why are we impo
Hi Kurt,
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Kurt Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And while I'm thinking about it, you could deal with the line-height issue
> by setting it to 1.125, without any units.
>
> (
> See Eric Meyer's excellent article about this issue:
> http://meyerweb.com/eric/thought
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
Am Montag, 22. September 2008 schrieb Robin Bannister:
> So I propose
>
> A
> Replace the (passive) text "Table of Contents" in the TOC panel,
> with the document title, e.g. "Learning Manual".
> This nearly always visible (on biggish screens).
> (And when offscreen, nea
Hi Robin,
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Robin Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > B
>> > Make this document title [A] be like a breadcrumb at the document level
>> > i.e. it is a link to the start of the document.
>>
>> Also done.
>
> Maybe you consider this superfluous, but by "breadcrumb
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Patrick McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 1) The title link should be bold-faced like the rest of the TOC.
For 1) I meant: "...should be bold-faced like the rest of the
breadcrumbs in the TOC."
Thanks,
Patrick
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Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 schrieb Robin Bannister:
> Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> > Am Montag, 22. September 2008 schrieb Robin Bannister:
> > > So I propose
> > >
> > > A
> > > Replace the (passive) text "Table of Contents" in the TOC panel,
> > > wi
Le samedi 04 octobre 2008 à 22:18 +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit :
> Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 schrieb Robin Bannister:
> > Without the prefix the title is then just e.g. "Learning Manual", which
> > corresponds to what you see in the documentation overview.
>
> Yes, but that was the only str
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