Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

> On 5 Nov 2016, at 00:03, David Wright wrote: >>> Mairi's Wedding is completely regular; it has five 8-bar >>> sections, which happens to sum to 40: >> >> But they have to play it A B A B B, where each letter is a 8-bar section. > > For that original tune, that's

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Fri 04 Nov 2016 at 21:09:20 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 4 Nov 2016, at 20:31, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Fri 04 Nov 2016 at 10:55:45 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > >> On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:21, David Wright wrote: > > > > (in a

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

> On 4 Nov 2016, at 20:31, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 04 Nov 2016 at 10:55:45 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: >> On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:21, David Wright wrote: > > (in a different timezone) > >>> My own experience of dancing is mainly >>> in

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On Fri 04 Nov 2016 at 10:55:45 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:21, David Wright wrote: (in a different timezone) > > My own experience of dancing is mainly > > in the Scottish Country Dancing tradition, where such rhythmic > > irregularities would be

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> On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:21, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 03 Nov 2016 at 22:08:02 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 3 Nov 2016, at 21:28, David Wright wrote: >>> >>> On Thu 03 Nov 2016 at 10:37:36 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: >

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Thu 03 Nov 2016 at 19:50:05 (-0700), mclaren wrote: > Well, the 3's indicate 3:2 broken tuplets. There seems to be some controversy > over whether Tobin Chodos really wanted a single 3:2 eighth note at the end > of every measure. If he does, then the 3's are correct. Well, I don't perform

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> of every measure. If he does, then the 3's are correct. If he doesn't, then > the question was unclear and we're answering something that wasn't asked. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5. > nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-dupl

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Yes, I realized that. Thanks for the correction. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-duple-denominator-tp195829p196119.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

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On Fri 04 Nov 2016 at 02:44:56 (+0100), Urs Liska wrote: > > > Am 04.11.2016 um 02:39 schrieb Urs Liska: > > > > Am 02.11.2016 um 19:10 schrieb Chris Yate: > >> particularly as it utterly confuses those players that don't know how > >> to parse it. > > Any musical notation utterly confuses those

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ge in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-duple-denominator-tp195829p196117.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailm

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asked. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-duple-denominator-tp195829p196116.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user

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5:4 5:4 q q 5:4 5:4 Both measures add up to eight quarter notes, but the pulse is irregular due to the broken tuplets. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-duple-denominator-tp195829p196115.html Sent from the User mail

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On Thu 03 Nov 2016 at 22:08:02 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 3 Nov 2016, at 21:28, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Thu 03 Nov 2016 at 10:37:36 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > >> > >>> On 3 Nov 2016, at 03:04, David Wright wrote: > >>> >

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Am 04.11.2016 um 02:39 schrieb Urs Liska: > > Am 02.11.2016 um 19:10 schrieb Chris Yate: >> particularly as it utterly confuses those players that don't know how >> to parse it. > Any musical notation utterly confuses those players that don't know how > to parse it. Actually you could extend

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Am 04.11.2016 um 01:56 schrieb mclaren: > Oops. Unless I'm mistaken, 4 + 1 triplet eighth note would be 4 + 1/6, not 4 > + 1/3. You *are* mistaken. 4 quarters + 1 triplet eight is 4/4 + 1/12. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Thu 03 Nov 2016 at 18:00:59 (-0700), mclaren wrote: > "Wouldn't that rather be (4 + 2/3)/4?" > > Yes, I think you're right. 1/3 is presumably half of the value of a triplet > quarter note, so 1 triplet eighth note. I've corrected that in my second > Lilypond example. My bad. > > Change the

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Am 02.11.2016 um 19:10 schrieb Chris Yate: > particularly as it utterly confuses those players that don't know how > to parse it. Any musical notation utterly confuses those players that don't know how to parse it. Actually you could extend that to written text as well.

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On Thu 03 Nov 2016 at 17:13:14 (-0700), mclaren wrote: > I have an even more diabolical question, related to the one at the start of > this thread. > > But let me first answer the original question, which was: "Is there a way to > implement a non-binary time signature like 4 + 1/3?" I think I

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ot of 1119, now, that's considered exotic today. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-duple-denominator-tp195829p196107.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lil

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a 3 to get the meter to display correctly. But the measures do print correctly, so this code should get what Tobin Chodos wants, I think, 4 quarter notes + 1 triplet eighth in every measure. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-n

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e 4/4 %\set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4/4) %{a,4 b, c d a,4 b, c d a,4 b, c d a,4 b, c d a,4 b, c d} %} >> -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-duple-denominator-tp195829p196103.html Sent

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On 04/11/2016 01:13, mclaren wrote: > This seems like an entirely valid question. 1/3 would be a single triplet > note, right? That is, if we're dealing with (4 + 1/3)/4, then what we want > is 4 quarter notes + 1 triplet quarter note, correct? Wouldn't that be rather (4 + 2/3)/4? -- Not the

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s an example of the score output on imgur: http://imgur.com/a/cSyML Now here's my even more diabolical question: How do you get Lilypond to do a meter and print barlines properly on a time signature like 4 + (square root of 3)? And get valid page breaks? -- View this message in context: ht

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

> On 3 Nov 2016, at 21:28, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 03 Nov 2016 at 10:37:36 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 3 Nov 2016, at 03:04, David Wright wrote: >>> > The only 13/8 I can recall off-hand is an uncomplicated 6/4+1/8.

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Thu 03 Nov 2016 at 10:37:36 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 3 Nov 2016, at 03:04, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 22:13:54 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > >> > >>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 21:08, David Wright wrote: > >>> >

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

> On 3 Nov 2016, at 03:04, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 22:13:54 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 21:08, David Wright wrote: >>> >>> On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 20:10:39 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: >

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 22:13:54 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 2 Nov 2016, at 21:08, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 20:10:39 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > >> > >>> On 28 Oct 2016, at 21:48, David Wright wrote: > >>>

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

> On 2 Nov 2016, at 21:08, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 20:10:39 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 28 Oct 2016, at 21:48, David Wright wrote: >>> >>> On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote:

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 20:10:39 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 28 Oct 2016, at 21:48, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote: > >> Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way to > >>

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

> On 2 Nov 2016, at 19:02, tisimst wrote: > > ... as Kieren and I saw on a facebook group the other day when a composer > started a discussion about having a bar with an "irrational" 2/6 time > signature. Wow, the flames that ensued! It's quite simple: > > { \time

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

> On 28 Oct 2016, at 21:48, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote: >> Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way to >> define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, the >>

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On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 at 18:03 tisimst wrote: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Kieren MacMillan [via Lilypond] <[hidden > email] > wrote: > > It's *legitimate* in all musical circles, though it's not *embraced* by > all. >

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David Wright writes: > On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 12:49:07 (-0400), kieren_macmillan kieren_macmillan > wrote: > > > I guess I had expected a reference/url/scan rather than "yes". Zere is some music notation zat makes me 'url. -- David Kastrup

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On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 12:49:07 (-0400), kieren_macmillan kieren_macmillan wrote: I guess I had expected a reference/url/scan rather than "yes". I realise that all sorts of "odd" notations were around in preclassical times, But wouldn't claim to understand them. Does the example I've given

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Hi David, It's *legitimate* in all musical circles, though it's not *embraced* by all. Cheers,Kieren. -- Original Message --From: David Wright Date: November 2, 2016 at 12:45 PMOn Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 21:13:57 (+0200), Noeck wrote:> > Forgive

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On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 21:13:57 (+0200), Noeck wrote: > > Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way > > to define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, > > the measure is four quarter notes long plus one triplet eighth note. > > this is

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On 28.10.2016 21:50, Noeck wrote: Btw, having the new list syntax in mind I wondered whether this would work in recent development versions: \compoundMeter 4/4,1/3 But it does not the 4/4 translates to (4 . 4) and not (4 4). \compoundMeter (4,4),(1,3) does not work either. Can this list syntax

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

Btw, having the new list syntax in mind I wondered whether this would work in recent development versions: \compoundMeter 4/4,1/3 But it does not the 4/4 translates to (4 . 4) and not (4 4). \compoundMeter (4,4),(1,3) does not work either. Can this list syntax be grouped somehow? I mean in a way

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote: > Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way to > define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, the > measure is four quarter notes long plus one triplet eighth note. Isn't this just

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

> Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way > to define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, > the measure is four quarter notes long plus one triplet eighth note. Hi Tobin, this is definitely a valid question for this list! This snippet will

compound time signature with non duple denominator

Hi all, Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way to define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, the measure is four quarter notes long plus one triplet eighth note. Thanks. Tobin Chodos ___