Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-12-02 Thread Trevor Bača
that an Allow_interrupt_engraver could be added to the official distribution? Trevor. On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Piaras Hoban phoba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, A few weeks back I posted seeking a little help in implementing one of the more peculiar notational devices of Brian Ferneyhough, namely

Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-06 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 05/11/13 07:44, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Please submit this snippet to the LSR! He can't, it's the actual beginning of Ferneyhough's score and so under copyright. The notation is cool, though, and I'm sure it's easy to come up with a similar example that is original.

Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 06.11.2013 16:39, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling: On 05/11/13 07:44, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Please submit this snippet to the LSR! He can't, it's the actual beginning of Ferneyhough's score and so under copyright. Really? From my experience publishers don't have/make problems with

Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-06 Thread Tim Roberts
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote: Am 06.11.2013 16:39, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling: On 05/11/13 07:44, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Please submit this snippet to the LSR! He can't, it's the actual beginning of Ferneyhough's score and so under copyright. Really? From my experience

Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-06 Thread Urs Liska
and often misapplied fair use clause in American copyright law. Hm, the last time I was faced with this question I understood that educational or critical review applies when you are dealing with the work in question, i.e. when you write an article about Ferneyhough and want to demonstrate something

Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-06 Thread David Kastrup
and often misapplied fair use clause in American copyright law. Not everybody is living in the U.S.A. though, and the licensing in other countries LilyPond may get distributed to is governed by local laws invoked by corporations having cross-licensing deals. That would be the case even if Ferneyhough

Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-06 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 06/11/13 18:55, David Kastrup wrote: That would be the case even if Ferneyhough were not British to start with. Your other points are fine, but what's Ferneyhough's nationality got to do with it? FWIW, he's been resident in the US for 25+ years now, and his publisher is German

Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-06 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 06/11/13 17:06, Urs Liska wrote: Really? From my experience publishers don't have/make problems with giving a free licence to use such an excerpt for such a purpose. IIRC stuff in the LSR is supposed to be dedicated to the public domain, and there's no way I can see to do that. Anyway,

Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-06 Thread David Kastrup
to the public domain, and there's no way I can see to do that. You can always ask the publisher. But of course, that would mean if people made a sampler/remix including just a rendition of those bars, there could be no royalty payments to Ferneyhough and/or his publisher and/or his resident thug agency

Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 06.11.2013 19:07, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling: I would imagine it should work well with your own Lilypond examples project? Oh my, of course! Why didn't I think of this myself??? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-04 Thread Piaras Hoban
Hi list, A few weeks back I posted seeking a little help in implementing one of the more peculiar notational devices of Brian Ferneyhough, namely 'interruptive polyphony'. I've managed to find a way to implement these automatically and wanted to share the code in case anyone in future

Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-04 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
This is beautiful and mind blowing :) -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Ferneyhough-style-Interruptive-Polyphony-tp153387p153389.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user

Re: Ferneyhough-style Interruptive Polyphony

2013-11-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
A few weeks back I posted seeking a little help in implementing one of the more peculiar notational devices of Brian Ferneyhough, namely 'interruptive polyphony'. I've managed to find a way to implement these automatically and wanted to share the code in case anyone in future is looking

Re: Ferneyhough-style flared hairpins?

2013-03-06 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 6 mars 2013, at 20:06, Trevor Bača trevorb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Trevor Bača trevorb...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote: 2013/3/4 Joseph Rushton Wakeling

Re: Ferneyhough-style flared hairpins?

2013-03-04 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 03/04/2013 05:29 PM, Trevor Bača wrote: Is anyone else out there using Ferneyhough-style flared hairpins? I'd probably use them if they were available. I'm considering sponsoring the work and I'm curious to know if there would be any other adopters if the feature were implemented

Re: Ferneyhough-style flared hairpins?

2013-03-04 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 03/04/2013 05:29 PM, Trevor Bača wrote: I'm considering sponsoring the work and I'm curious to know if there would be any other adopters if the feature were implemented. ... could we make this a 2-in-1 to also cover his brackets-to-show-extent-of-dynamic notation? This actually couples

Re: Ferneyhough-style flared hairpins?

2013-03-04 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/3/4 Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net: On 03/04/2013 05:29 PM, Trevor Bača wrote: I'm considering sponsoring the work and I'm curious to know if there would be any other adopters if the feature were implemented. This workaround was posted more than 2 years ago in the

Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-19 Thread Trevor Bača
that they should.) It might also be worth pointing out that two competing interpretations of these 'nonbinary' time signatures have developed in the literature over the past couple of decades: what we might call the 'Ferneyhough' and the 'Sciarrino' interpretations, respectively. Ferneyhough's usage

Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread Joey
Just wondering if Lilypond can handle this type of situation; In Ferneyhough's etudes transcendentales, he employs meters such as 2/12 or 2/10, acting as literal subdivisions of the semi-breve. This of course translates to n-tuplets, but frees up the score (and mind) a bit so that one can really

Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Joey wrote: Just wondering if Lilypond can handle this type of situation; In Ferneyhough's etudes transcendentales, he employs meters such as 2/12 or 2/10, acting as literal subdivisions of the semi-breve. This of course translates to n-tuplets, but frees up

Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread Joseph Wakeling
On 07/05/2011 08:57 AM, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Joey wrote: In Ferneyhough's etudes transcendentales, he employs meters such as 2/12 or 2/10, acting as literal subdivisions of the semi-breve. The easiest way would be to create an override for the time

Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Joseph Wakeling wrote: On 07/05/2011 08:57 AM, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Joey wrote: In Ferneyhough's etudes transcendentales, he employs meters such as 2/12 or 2/10, acting as literal subdivisions of the semi-breve. The

Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread Urs Liska
Probably Joey doesn't want to use \time 4/5 but to scale durations. I adjusted your example a little bit so one sees better what happens: { \time 2/10 \times 4/5 { c'8 c'8 } \bar || % \scaleDurations scales without tuplet numbers or brackets \scaleDurations #'(4 . 5) { c'8 c'8

Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread Joseph Wakeling
On 07/05/2011 12:26 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Probably Joey doesn't want to use \time 4/5 but to scale durations. I adjusted your example a little bit so one sees better what happens: Nice solution! Very convenient to have since right now I'm working on a few contemporary-music examples for the

Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters

2011-07-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.07.2011 13:45, schrieb Joseph Wakeling: On 07/05/2011 12:26 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Probably Joey doesn't want to use \time 4/5 but to scale durations. I adjusted your example a little bit so one sees better what happens: Nice solution! Very convenient to have since right now I'm working

ferneyhough

2008-03-13 Thread luis jure
El Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:16:02 + Mark Knoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Attached FYI is the source for some excerpts from the second movement of Opus Contra Naturam... thanks for sharing this excerpt, i found many things to learn. but could you please clarify this part of the code? : %

Re: ferneyhough

2008-03-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson
luis jure wrote: El Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:16:02 + Mark Knoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Attached FYI is the source for some excerpts from the second movement of Opus Contra Naturam... thanks for sharing this excerpt, i found many things to learn. but could you please clarify

Re: ferneyhough

2008-03-13 Thread luis jure
El Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:21:43 +0100 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-08/msg00533.html with all follow-ups for the discussion behind this LSR example. thanks for the link. my problem was that i had found this (user manual,