Re: [LINK] Free access to Australian standards no longer available in public libraries

2016-06-06 Thread JanW
At 03:58 PM 7/06/2016, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: >"Increasingly legislation refers to standards, rather than spelling out >legal requirements. All that says the community needs to have access to >standards." > >The publishing agreement with SAI Global ends in 2018, with an option to >renew for

[LINK] Free access to Australian standards no longer available in public libraries

2016-06-06 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
Free access to Australian standards no longer available in public libraries SMH June 7, 2016 - 3:27PM Lucy Cormack Consumer Affairs Reporter http://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/free-access-to-australian-standards-no-longer-available-in-public-libraries-20160607-gpd8ng.html Australian s

Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

2016-06-06 Thread Jim Birch
David Lochrin wrote: It's interesting to see this topic surfacing again so soon, it obviously > excites passions. > Isn't it? If cars are to be completely computer-controlled by law This is a possible endpoint at the moment. It's not a real issue. That would only happen if cars meet all the

Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

2016-06-06 Thread David Lochrin
It's interesting to see this topic surfacing again so soon, it obviously excites passions. So let's think about the idea in more detail. If cars are to be completely computer-controlled by law, then they must safely transport the man living in some rural area who wants to take his pregnant wif

Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

2016-06-06 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 7/06/2016 9:51 AM, Jim Birch wrote: > I doubt that the big, bad, government is going to take anyone's car away > from them, unless they are a proven danger to others. It will be a more a > case of what works best for the individual. I agree. IMHO, the issue is not about these technologies bei

Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

2016-06-06 Thread Jim Birch
Certainly some people, including me, like driving. Though not all the time. For most people pleasurable driving is a small part of their driving time. A lot of the pleasure, the social aspect, seeing stuff and going somewhere different, won't disappear. However, you need to compare the pleasure

Re: [LINK] Y'gotta laugh

2016-06-06 Thread JanW
At 09:10 AM 7/06/2016, David Boxall wrote: >Then there's this comment: > >>... he was given two installs on the one day, gets to the first one, mentions >>where he the next

[LINK] Y'gotta laugh

2016-06-06 Thread David Boxall
Is it any wonder that NBN™ is being compared to Fawlty Towers? I had Skymuster install done today and so far so good. Even though the installer warned me it could take up to 48hours, the connection was working by the time he lef

Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

2016-06-06 Thread Tom Worthington
On 06/06/16 15:36, David Boxall wrote: ... you could probably ban all private vehicles ... Already in inner Sydney suburbs I notice many share cars. The Australian National University has recently introduced these in Canberra. Initially the cars are being used by staff, but will later be ava

Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

2016-06-06 Thread Paul Bolger
It's interesting that the fact that people like driving is being almost completely ignored by proponents of self drive cars, with dissenting views restricted to statements in the comments like "If I'm going to buy a state of the art electric sports car I'm damned if I'm going to let a computer driv

Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

2016-06-06 Thread David Boxall
On 6/06/2016 6:22 PM, Ivan Trundle wrote: ... it seems as though the stories that get traction (pardon the pun) originate from places where car ownership is minimal (large cities), hence the thinking that if it works in a city, it works everywhere. ... Indeed. I live on the land myself. I doubt

Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

2016-06-06 Thread Ivan Trundle
I detect a distinct lack of passion for cars in people who write these stories. Why don’t the people who write these stories talk to people who drive cars and ask them WHY they are happy to use a car for less than an hour a day, or why a utilisation rate of 4 per cent or less hasn’t changed in a