Re: RE: I can´t start

2003-07-22 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Ponte, Sergio D wrote: > I know ...I know ...is old but it´s all tha I can get for tests ... Somewhere, at zero cost, Matt has a Debian image you can have. Or, if you want, you can take a pick of two 3390-1 images I have. > > I have 128MB virtual storage running under VM/ES

RE: I can´t start

2003-07-22 Thread Post, Mark K
That should be enough. What Linux distribution are you trying to use? SuSE 7.0? The Marist file system? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Ponte, Sergio D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: I can´t start I know ...I know

More New Presentations

2003-07-22 Thread Post, Mark K
A link to a second (and now third!) new presentation from the June 26th meeting of the Hillgang has been added to linuxvm.org. Reed Mullen of IBM's "z/VM Version 4 Platform Update" presentation, and Bill Bitner's (also of IBM) "z/VM Guest performance" are now available at http://linuxvm.org/Presen

Re: Oracle install - where's gcc_old.rpm?

2003-07-22 Thread Ann Smith
Thank you! I was just going to http://sdb.suse.de/en/psdb and having trouble finding SLES8. "Little, Chris" wrote: > http://sdb.suse.de/en/psdb/html/SuSE-Linux-Enterprise-Server-8-for-IBM-S390- > and-IBM-zSeries.html > > Service Pack 2 is almost at the bottom. dated 16 Jun 2003 > > > -Origin

Re: Oracle install - where's gcc_old.rpm?

2003-07-22 Thread Little, Chris
http://sdb.suse.de/en/psdb/html/SuSE-Linux-Enterprise-Server-8-for-IBM-S390- and-IBM-zSeries.html Service Pack 2 is almost at the bottom. dated 16 Jun 2003 > -Original Message- > From: Ann Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Su

Re: Oracle install - where's gcc_old.rpm?

2003-07-22 Thread Ann Smith
We do have a support contract. But I couldn't find SP2 for SLES8 for S/390. Which website are you referring to? "Little, Chris" wrote: > I could be wrong -- and we have SP2 so this isn't an issue for us - but I > think you need the gcc_old only if you are going to be doing Pro*C > development. Y

Re: Combining OSA cards - increasing the pipe

2003-07-22 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine How do you figure that the octopus community would get into the act? Certainly if the proper settings, and modules are available for the kernel, it should work. But then again, I'm coming from the PC world, where it works. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Combining OSA cards - increasing the pipe

2003-07-22 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 14:03, David Boyes wrote: > However, all you're doing is statistically selecting between a number of > fixed-speed pipes. The actual transmission of the packet occurs at the speed > of the selected pipe. Your speed increase is only proportional to a > percentage of the number

Re: Oracle install - where's gcc_old.rpm?

2003-07-22 Thread Little, Chris
I could be wrong -- and we have SP2 so this isn't an issue for us - but I think you need the gcc_old only if you are going to be doing Pro*C development. You may not need, but you need to talk to Oracle support about this. Also, SP2 is downloadable from SuSE's website if you have a support contra

Re: Combining OSA cards - increasing the pipe

2003-07-22 Thread David Boyes
> On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 12:50, David Boyes wrote: > > Doesn't really solve the same problem, Adam. You're still > limited to the > > maximum bandwith of a single adapter; equal-cost routing > and the other layer > > 3 solutions just decide which one to use. > > I don't think so: equal-cost-multipat

Oracle install - where's gcc_old.rpm?

2003-07-22 Thread Ann Smith
We will be installing Oracle under SLES8. The Oracle folks brought over doc saying we need to : 1. install compat-2002.8.15-20.s390.rpm from the base CD and 2. install gcc_old.rpm from the Service Pack 2 of SuSE Number 1. should be doable. The rpm file is on our base CD. However, we don't have a Se

Re: eBay Now Powered By IBM

2003-07-22 Thread Jim Sibley
"Perhaps they've finally figured out that running WebSphere (at least multiple instances of it) on a mainframe is not a very good performer. The old defamatory SHARE badges of TSO on MVS come to mind (a pig on the back of a turtle or something like that). Even IBM's WebSphere people state in publ

New Presentation

2003-07-22 Thread Post, Mark K
A link to a second new presentation from the June 26th meeting of the Hillgang has been added to linuxvm.org. Reed Mullen of IBM's "z/VM Version 4 Platform Update" presentation is now available at http://linuxvm.org/Present/ Mark Post

Re: eBay Now Powered By IBM

2003-07-22 Thread Dennis Hamrick
Reminds me of PeopleSoft; You can put a Tuxedo on a pig, but it's still a pig! dkh David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ine.net> cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: Re:

Re: Open Source Community doubts SCO's claims

2003-07-22 Thread Steve Gentry
This will be the last time I mention this (today), honest. Thank you David, I've been humming the tune to the PBS series(Wooster and Jeeves) since you're first posting. And probably will be the rest of the afternoon. David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Open Source Community doubts SCO's claims

2003-07-22 Thread David Boyes
> Hurray! At least one other individual knows about Wooster and Jeeves. Indeed, sir. Will that be all, sir? Very good, sir. Ob Linux reference: Linus Torvalds is said to like Jeeves and Wooster...8-) -- db (If you haven't enjoyed the fun of PG Wodehouse yet, now would be a good time. It's goo

Re: eBay Now Powered By IBM

2003-07-22 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello again from Gregg C Levine How so? And why? Would any of you care to take the time to explain that? Oh, and please do so, off list. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan K

Re: Combining OSA cards - increasing the pipe

2003-07-22 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 12:50, David Boyes wrote: > Doesn't really solve the same problem, Adam. You're still limited to the > maximum bandwith of a single adapter; equal-cost routing and the other layer > 3 solutions just decide which one to use. I don't think so: equal-cost-multipath lets you spli

Re: Combining OSA cards - increasing the pipe

2003-07-22 Thread Lucius, Leland
What about the bonding drivers that Linux already has? I tried this guy once and failed miserably (it failed actually). Or how about the TEQL scheduler. (Haven't had a chance to try it yet.) Leland -Original Message- From: David Boyes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7/22/2003 12:50 PM Subj

Re: eBay Now Powered By IBM

2003-07-22 Thread David Boyes
> The > old defamatory SHARE badges of TSO on MVS come to mind (a pig > on the back of > a turtle or something like that). Turkey. Adds a whole new meaning to "squeal like a pig, boy..." -- db

Re: Open Source Community doubts SCO's claims

2003-07-22 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine And I. I am reasonably familiar with them. Why, I don't know. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi (Thi

Re: Open Source Community doubts SCO's claims

2003-07-22 Thread Steve Gentry
Hurray! At least one other individual knows about Wooster and Jeeves. David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/22/2003 11:35 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Open Source

Re: Updating SuSE Kernel

2003-07-22 Thread Post, Mark K
Loren, You're running in 64-bit mode? (That's what the "s390x" means.) If you're not, then try whatever updates are labeled as #-s390-# instead. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Loren Charnley, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: I can´t start

2003-07-22 Thread Ponte, Sergio D
I know ...I know ...is old but it´s all tha I can get for tests ... I have 128MB virtual storage running under VM/ESA. Thanks Sergio -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: terça-feira, 22 de julho de 2003 15:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: I can´t

Re: eBay Now Powered By IBM

2003-07-22 Thread Post, Mark K
Perhaps they've finally figured out that running WebSphere (at least multiple instances of it) on a mainframe is not a very good performer. The old defamatory SHARE badges of TSO on MVS come to mind (a pig on the back of a turtle or something like that). Even IBM's WebSphere people state in publi

Re: Known problems with HSI, QETH, configurations during RedHat 7 .2 install?

2003-07-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:35:03AM -0500, James Melin wrote: > I agree. After some poking around I couldn't find documentation that would > allow me to make a RAM disk recovery system. I am looking to be able to > build a 'Disaster Recovery' ramdisk with some stuff in it that isn't on the > vendor

Re: eBay Now Powered By IBM

2003-07-22 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello again from Gregg C Levine Plenty of reasons. For example they could have been using that kludge, as opposed to the one we want to begin with. I personally think they will never tell us. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

RE: I can´t start

2003-07-22 Thread Post, Mark K
Sergio, Perhaps, but it would have been a long, long time ago: Using /lib/modules/2.2.16/block/dasd.o ^^ How much real/virtual storage does this system have assigned to it? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Ponte, Sergio D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesd

Re: Combining OSA cards - increasing the pipe

2003-07-22 Thread David Boyes
> > Has anyone had any experience combing, or getting the > effect of, combining > > OSA cards? I have two and am looking to provide failover > and load sharing. > > Something along the lines of EtherChannel would be great > but I don't see > > that it's supported for the S390 kernel. > > But if y

Re: Combining OSA cards - increasing the pipe

2003-07-22 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 12:01, Matt Lashley/SCO wrote: > I think we may have covered this before, but I can't find it in the > archives. > > Has anyone had any experience combing, or getting the effect of, combining > OSA cards? I have two and am looking to provide failover and load sharing. > Somet

Combining OSA cards - increasing the pipe

2003-07-22 Thread Matt Lashley/SCO
I think we may have covered this before, but I can't find it in the archives. Has anyone had any experience combing, or getting the effect of, combining OSA cards? I have two and am looking to provide failover and load sharing. Something along the lines of EtherChannel would be great but I don't

Re: Open Source Community doubts SCO's claims

2003-07-22 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 11:15, John Ford wrote: > David Boyes' pick-up line: Hey, babe... want a copy of Linux for > free? "Ya wanna see my penguin farm?" Adam

Re: Open Source Community doubts SCO's claims

2003-07-22 Thread David Boyes
> Unrelated to phonetically-induced upgrades, this just popped into my > silly head... > > David Boies' pick-up line: Hey, babe... want some litigation for > free? > > David Boyes' pick-up line: Hey, babe... want a copy of Linux for > free? > I'd say your vocation puts you at a disadvantage! Pl

Re: Known problems with HSI, QETH, configurations during RedHat 7 .2 install?

2003-07-22 Thread James Melin
I agree. After some poking around I couldn't find documentation that would allow me to make a RAM disk recovery system. I am looking to be able to build a 'Disaster Recovery' ramdisk with some stuff in it that isn't on the vendor CD. |-+> | |

I can´t start

2003-07-22 Thread Ponte, Sergio D
Hi, does anybody seen this happen before insmod dasd dasd=100 Using /lib/modules/2.2.16/block/dasd.o dasd:initializing... dasd:Registered succ

Re: Known problems with HSI, QETH, configurations during RedHat 7 .2 install?

2003-07-22 Thread Post, Mark K
http://www10.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux390/docu/RedHat -OCO-HowTo.pdf Mark Post -Original Message- From: Eric Sammons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Known problems with HSI, QETH, configurations dur

Re: Known problems with HSI, QETH, configurations during RedHat 7 .2 install?

2003-07-22 Thread Vic Cross
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Post, Mark K wrote: > You'll need to go to the IBM developerWorks site, download the OCO > modules for the kernel level you'll be using, and roll your own "extra" > initrd (initial ram disk). The instructions to do that should also be > on the developerWorks site. Recent pac

Re: Known problems with HSI, QETH, configurations during RedHat 7 .2 install?

2003-07-22 Thread Eric Sammons
I am still looking, but I have not been able to find the instructions for "rolling my own extra initrd". Anyone know specifically where they are and will I be able to do work this process prior to actually installing an image. Remeber the problems I see are related to the install process, I very

Re: Open Source Community doubts SCO's claims

2003-07-22 Thread John Ford
db, Unrelated to phonetically-induced upgrades, this just popped into my silly head... David Boies' pick-up line: Hey, babe... want some litigation for free? David Boyes' pick-up line: Hey, babe... want a copy of Linux for free? I'd say your vocation puts you at a disadvantage! -jcf - Or

Re: Open Source Community doubts SCO's claims

2003-07-22 Thread Kris Van Hees
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:57:55AM -0400, David Boyes wrote: > Sigh. There goes my free business class upgrades8-( That entirely depends on whether the airline uses Linux vs SCO vs M$ vs ... Play your cards right, and they'll give you a free first class upgrade, with red carpet treatment and a

Re: Open Source Community doubts SCO's claims

2003-07-22 Thread David Boyes
Sigh. There goes my free business class upgrades8-( -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Ferguson, Neale > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Open Sourc

Re: Open Source Community doubts SCO's claims

2003-07-22 Thread Ferguson, Neale
Interesting times for SCO's lawyer though: "Lawyer Boies Faces Ethics Charges" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17302-2003Jul19.html

Open Source Community doubts SCO's claims

2003-07-22 Thread Lionel Dyck
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/2238331 July 22, 2003 Linux Community Doubts SCO Claims By Linux Today Staff And how is the Linux community at large handling SCO Group's latest claims that the Linux kernel versions 2.4.x and later copied its copyrighted Unix code? According to a r

Re: CDL backup via DFSMSdss

2003-07-22 Thread James Melin
As my understanding was, these were not VM minidisks, but real dasd, as I used OS/390 in LPAR mode to restore them. I can ask the DR people what they ended up with, hell I'll even ship them a tape and if they're willing to try to do this again, under the table. The big thing is that we, ourselves

Re: Linux and VSAM

2003-07-22 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Ceruti, Gerard G wrote: > Hi All > > I have tried to do a search thru the logs but I am unable to get a result, I > got a question from our Capman guy, is/are there software/plans to let Linux > access VSAM files , perhaps via NFS or natively, as our current zOS systems > all

Re: Linux and VSAM

2003-07-22 Thread Jim Elliott
> I have tried to do a search thru the logs but I am unable to get a > result, I got a question from our Capman guy, is/are there > software/plans to let Linux access VSAM files , perhaps via NFS or > natively, as our current zOS systems all in a Sysplex I would like > to leave that alone for the m

Re: CDL backup via DFSMSdss

2003-07-22 Thread Kern, Thomas
Are these minidisks defined as FULL volume (cyl 0-end) or do you start the linux minidisk at cylinder 1? I have my linux minidisks starting at cylinder 1 (being a longtime VM person, the label and allocation bitmap are stored on real cylinder zero). So when I have our OS/390 system use DFDSS to b

More on the latest SCO efforts to destroy open source

2003-07-22 Thread Lionel Dyck
A good overview of the latest: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27540-2003Jul22.html?nav=hptoc_tn And a smoking gun from SCO itself: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/22/0528203&mode=thread&tid=106&tid=185 And a generous offer from Microsoft: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story

CDL backup via DFSMSdss

2003-07-22 Thread James Melin
Apparantly dfdss backup does not copy cylinder 0 when doing a volume backup of the tracks in a linux volume? I attempted to backup my quiesced linux dasd and restore it at the disaster recovery site using VM. The first problem I ran into is that my 'so called' 3390-9's are about 1408 tracks too l

Re: Linux and VSAM

2003-07-22 Thread Matt Lashley/SCO
Hi Gerard, This is just off the top of my head, but I think the NFS server that bundles with z/OS TCP/IP has an interface for exporting VSAM files. So far I've only used the zOS NFS server to export sequential and PDS datasets to Linux so I have no real knowledge if the VSAM export works or not.

Re: Known problems with HSI, QETH, configurations during RedHat 7 .2 install?

2003-07-22 Thread Post, Mark K
Eric, Actually, you have it backwards. SuSE is the distribution that was including the IBM OCO modules, Red Hat does not. You'll need to go to the IBM developerWorks site, download the OCO modules for the kernel level you'll be using, and roll your own "extra" initrd (initial ram disk). The ins

Linux and VSAM

2003-07-22 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Hi All I have tried to do a search thru the logs but I am unable to get a result, I got a question from our Capman guy, is/are there software/plans to let Linux access VSAM files , perhaps via NFS or natively, as our current zOS systems all in a Sysplex I would like to leave that alone for the mom

Re: eBay Now Powered By IBM

2003-07-22 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Stan Clark wrote: > The interesting question to me is, why did they (Ebay and IBM consultants) > decide on an Intel based, xSeries, platform to run WebSphere on instead of a > mainframe runing linux. I would love to know the reasons. > What was ebay running before? Something

Known problems with HSI, QETH, configurations during RedHat 7.2 install?

2003-07-22 Thread Eric Sammons
I apologize for sending this again; however, I was recently informed that my original E-mail was being blocked by spam filters. Hopefully this time the E-mail will get to everyone. Thank you! Original = I am in the process of

Updating SuSE Kernel

2003-07-22 Thread Loren Charnley, Jr.
All, I have a problem when I try to load the update for Service Pack 2 for SLES8 for IBM zSeries. I've followed the instructions using NFS and the loopback mounts, and either way I get an error saying: Error Initialization failed. Please check that you have inserted the correct CD. When I try

Re: eBay Now Powered By IBM

2003-07-22 Thread Stan Clark
The interesting question to me is, why did they (Ebay and IBM consultants) decide on an Intel based, xSeries, platform to run WebSphere on instead of a mainframe runing linux. I would love to know the reasons. Stan -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Beh

Known problems with HSI (QETH) configurations during RedHat 7.2 install?

2003-07-22 Thread Eric Sammons
I am in the process of installing my first RedHat guest image. I have installed SuSE and of course we used Channel to Channel given the known issues with the Gig Adapters (OCO I believe). I am now attempting to bring up RedHat; however, not finding any known issues with the Gig Adapters I thought