Re: SLES9 and VM Shared Kernel

2005-07-25 Thread Joerg Reuter
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:02:09PM +0200, Tobias Dörkes wrote: Some weeks ago, i tried to implement the VM shared kernel using SLES9. But without success. So i asked SUSE, but SuSE does not support the VM shared kernel !!! Well, there are no support services from SUSE for this kernel feature,

AW: The way of confirmation of applied APAR and PTF on z/VM.

2005-07-25 Thread Leonard Janus
Hi there, in former times you have to look into the CPLOAD MAP , usually on the 493 minidisk. here you can search to the apar (or ptf-) number i.e. / UM31391 With VM 5.1 there is a menu called VMFINFO. You have to select the PPF (maybe ZVM) and on a second screen the CPMPONENT (maybe CP). On

Re: AW: The way of confirmation of applied APAR and PTF on z/VM.

2005-07-25 Thread Kurt Acker
Starting with z/VM 510, the new service command can also be used. Examples are available at: http://www.vm.ibm.com/service/servstat.html Kurt Acker Leonard Janus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 07/25/2005 11:14 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To

Re: Hundreds or Thousands?

2005-07-25 Thread Glenn Nicholas
Let's change the question somewhat: what workloads do *you* propose to run in the environment? That'd probably give us a better idea of what you're trying to do and how it will scale. Are we talking about WWW hosting, or application hosting, or ??? Pick a couple hypothetical scenarios and let's

Re: X EKCD DASD = Y formatted Linux space

2005-07-25 Thread Fargusson.Alan
Assuming you have a 3390 (or something that looks like a 3390) then you get 12 4K blocks on a track, and 15 tracks on a cylinder. That adds up to 720K on a cylinder (12 * 4 * 15 = 720). Note that there is some overhead for inodes and such, and you probably don't want to fill a HFS or ZFS

Problem adding partition on a 8G LUN.

2005-07-25 Thread Peter Rothman
I have successfully installed SUSE 9 SP2 on a 2G LUN - the swap is on VDISK (using SWAPGEN5). At this point all is OK. I am now trying to add a partition (sdb1) on a 8G LUN. Using YAST I can successfully add the ZFCP device, add the partition and provide a load point. Once I exit YAST I can issue

Re: Hundreds or Thousands?

2005-07-25 Thread Rick Troth
There are certainly a number of ISV and other service vendors who are looking at (or already employing!) z/VM to host multiple Linuxen, one or more for each customer. Once again, lots of variables. Feel free to comment on *what* variables are the key ones to control (and in what

MP3K Question

2005-07-25 Thread Neale Ferguson
What does The link between the console and the processing unit is not connected mean on the MP3000 Support Element and how do you fix it? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: SLES9 and VM Shared Kernel

2005-07-25 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 7/25/05, Joerg Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quite frankly, in my opinion you really don't gain that much from this feature (unless you have a great amount of almost identical guests, all of them running the same kernel) and upgrading the kernel probably becomes an administrative

Re: Hundreds or Thousands?

2005-07-25 Thread Ivan Warren
While CPU is not a zSeries strength, context switching *is* a strength, or seems to be. The insertion loss when putting z/VM between the hardware and the workload OS is very small compared to that for VMware. I always blame the INTeL chip more than VMware (inc, now EMC). I'd like to add

Re: Problem adding partition on a 8G LUN.

2005-07-25 Thread John Schnitzler Jr
Peter, Make sure your run mkinitrd and zipl after exiting yast, and before you reboot. Regards, John -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message:

Re: Hundreds or Thousands?

2005-07-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 07/25/2005 at 07:11 ZE2, Ivan Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What really makes the whole thing powerful with z/Architecture is the SIE feature (Interpretative Exection).. Actually, this feature dates back from the S/370 XA era. This is basically VM in a single instruction (well..

Re: Problem adding partition on a 8G LUN.

2005-07-25 Thread Peter Rothman
THANK YOU My apologies - I was under the incorrect impression that YAST did that for you. Peter. John Schnitzler Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To com LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU

Re: SLES9 and VM Shared Kernel

2005-07-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 07/25/2005 at 07:00 ZE2, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you're right, the potential savings with sharing binaries in DCSS are larger (and probably harder to manage from a software management point of view). The kernel in NSS and binaries in DCSS are independent issues

Re: SLES9 and VM Shared Kernel

2005-07-25 Thread James Melin
What, pray tell, is union mount? Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] ibm.com To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port

Re: SLES9 and VM Shared Kernel

2005-07-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 07/25/2005 at 01:17 EST, James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, pray tell, is union mount? The ability to mount two file systems at the same mount point. You mount a r/w filesystem on top of a r/o file system. If you write to a file, it is redirected to the r/w filesystem.

Re: SLES9 and VM Shared Kernel

2005-07-25 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 7/25/05, James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, pray tell, is union mount? Well, for Linux union mount is not there. Other systems (e.g. FreeBSD) have this mechanism where you mount multiple devices on the same mount point in some 'transparent' fashion where you're still able to see

Re: SLES9 and VM Shared Kernel

2005-07-25 Thread Sal Torres/SBC Inc.
*** Reply to note of Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:17:06 -0500 (EST/CDT) *** by LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU The Linux Journal had an article a while back: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7714 For example, if you hava a readonly directory called /ro/etc, that has two files, inittab and fstab:

SLES9x, SP2, nfs install tree and YaST2 online updates...oh my!

2005-07-25 Thread Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
I have created a NFS SLES9x install tree and integrated the SLES9x SP2 CDs. Does this mean that when I install SLES9X, it will be at SP2 level or is there something else I need to do? Also, when I go into YAST2 online updates, will it reflect all the SP2 updates so they do not show up in the

Re: SLES9 and VM Shared Kernel

2005-07-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 25, 2005, at 3:10 PM, Rob van der Heij wrote: On 7/25/05, Sal Torres/SBC Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Linux Journal had an article a while back: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7714 That's unionfs - it shares some of the concepts but works on a different level. Am I the only

Re: Hundreds or Thousands?

2005-07-25 Thread Ivan Warren
A discussion of SIE can be found in the z/VM Security and Integrity technical paper, http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/library/techpapers/ pdf/gm130145.pdf. The SIE instruction has two levels of virtualization: one used by PR/SM to create partitions, the other by CP to create

Re: SLES9 and VM Shared Kernel

2005-07-25 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Oh, thanks so much! Now that old Woody Guhrie song is going to be going through my head all day. Be careful or I'll send an .mp3 of it's a small world. The Church is near, but the road is icy. The tavern is far, but I will walk carefully. - old Hungarian Proverb Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D. Boeing

Re: SLES9 and VM Shared Kernel

2005-07-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 25, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Wolfe, Gordon W wrote: Be careful or I'll send an .mp3 of it's a small world. There's no need to, NOW. Thanks. Thanks a bunch. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: SLES9x, SP2, nfs install tree and YaST2 online updates...oh my!

2005-07-25 Thread Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
I have created a NFS SLES9x install tree and integrated the SLES9x SP2 CDs. SPident indeed shows that I am at SP2 level. However, YaST2 Online Updates show all updates as outstanding. How do I sync YaST2 online updates up with SP2? There are pages and pages of outstanding online updates. Has

Re: SLES9x, SP2, nfs install tree and YaST2 online updates...oh my!

2005-07-25 Thread Uriel Carrasquilla
I suspect you may have to run the mksles9root for sp2. Regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] NCCI Boca Raton, Florida 561.893.2415 greetings / avec mes meilleures salutations / Cordialmente mit freundlichen Grüßen / Med vänlig hälsning

Re: SLES9x, SP2, nfs install tree and YaST2 online updates...oh my!

2005-07-25 Thread Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
Thank you for responding. I ran the mksles9root and then installed SLES9x using NFS. It all worked great. SLES9 boots fine and SPident shows: CONCLUSION: System is up-to-date! foundSLES-9-s390x-SP2 All that part worked fine. The problem is when I go into YaST2 Online Updates, it still

Re: SLES9x, SP2, nfs install tree and YaST2 online updates...oh my!

2005-07-25 Thread Cameron Seader
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 3:57 pm, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for responding. I ran the mksles9root and then installed SLES9x using NFS. It all worked great. SLES9 boots fine and SPident shows: CONCLUSION: System is up- to- date! foundSLES- 9-