Re: VM test platforms

2007-01-19 Thread Moeur Tim C
Thank you all for your insights. I'm not certain which path we'll take, but at least I'm better able to make that decision. Tim -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:16 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST

Re: VM test platforms

2007-01-19 Thread Tom Duerbusch
1. Use what you are familar with. If it was LPAR on the test box, you may lean towards LPAR on your production box. 2. Many of the small to midrange shops never had LPAR. We always ran VM in basic mode, hence we would run VM under VM for testing. Now that IBM forced everyone to LPAR, the smal

Re: VM test platforms

2007-01-19 Thread Dave Jones
I'm going to go with one of my favorite answers here and say "it depends". There are pros and cons for both approaches. Some z/OS centric sites might feel more comfortable using the LPAR approach,as that might fit in better with their over all system management scheme. Running z/VM as a 2nd

Re: VM test platforms

2007-01-19 Thread Marcy Cortes
We've had VM for about 25 years I think (longer than I've been here). We've never had a test LPAR - always done VM under VM for testing new VM. With the Linux workload now, we do have one VM system that runs only test/dev linuxes - so that's the first box to get a new release of VM, but it's no

Re: VM test platforms

2007-01-19 Thread Bates, Bob [CCC-OT_IT]
In all the places I have worked VM has been the poor step-child that got the least amount of resources. I have always used a 2nd level VM system for testing fixes, new releases, mods, or just trying to do something stupid that I didn't want to take a chance of knocking out my production system w

Re: VM test platforms

2007-01-19 Thread Kim Goldenberg
Moeur Tim C wrote: Good morning List, I have a question of general test and production architecture. We currently have some production zLinux guests running under z/VM 5.1. z/VM is installed as an LPAR on our single Z9 server. We had, until recently, a second Z9 on which I was running a test

Re: VM test platforms

2007-01-19 Thread Post, Mark K
I would say that almost all long-term VM shops run their test VM second level, as you're considering. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Moeur Tim C Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:03 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: VM t

Re: VM test platforms

2007-01-19 Thread Rich Smrcina
I would suggest the second LPAR approach, if anything for the separation of function. Until you can get it defined, you can certainly run the test VM second level. Moeur Tim C wrote: Good morning List, I have a question of general test and production architecture. We currently have some prod

VM test platforms

2007-01-19 Thread Moeur Tim C
Good morning List, I have a question of general test and production architecture. We currently have some production zLinux guests running under z/VM 5.1. z/VM is installed as an LPAR on our single Z9 server. We had, until recently, a second Z9 on which I was running a test VM which I could use

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-19 Thread Mark Wheeler
Thanks Harold. Will check out the patch. The scp "problem" w/ transfer rates that don't go above 8 MB/sec turns out to be a CPU bottleneck. Our z9-109 doesn't have any crypto hardware so all the encryption/decryption is being done in software. My speculation about there being an I/O bottleneck due

Re: TN3270 Emulator under Linux

2007-01-19 Thread David Bjørnsten-Lindhard
Hello, You can also use c3270 from x3270's site. This can be used directly from a unix console to connect up against the box. Got some nice scripting functions aswell. http://x3270.bgp.nu/download.html Cheers - Original Message - From: "Phil Sidler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thurs

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-19 Thread Harold Grovesteen
From James Melin's 12/14/2006 post: Mark, I saw something similar when we first went to SLES-9 (64 bit). We had MTU sizes being negotiated down to an idiotic packet size of 1492. Whether or not this has to do with how our OSA is configured I never did learn. Search for stuff with hipersockets