Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 3:39 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to steer things a bit off target... > > Is there any advantage of either CDL or CMS formatting over the other? CMS > would require pre-processing before giving the disk to a Linux image,

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread RPN01
Just to steer things a bit off target... Is there any advantage of either CDL or CMS formatting over the other? CMS would require pre-processing before giving the disk to a Linux image, where Linux can format the disk itself if it is doing CDL. Beyond that, are there any speed or capacity issues?

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Christian Borntraeger
Am Freitag, 21. September 2007 schrieb Richard Troth: > Christian, > > Never assume that ECKD is CDL again, please. And never assume its not, please :-) Rick, I know that you have enough knowledge about disk formats. And people trust you, because they know you have a lot of experience. So when yo

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Richard Troth
Christian, Never assume that ECKD is CDL again, please. The CMS FORMAT command lays down a flawless array of 4k blocks before it stamps a CMS "EDF" filesystem on the volume. You are correct that FBA has no problem with unpartitioned media. But most other disk architectures do likewise, includi

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread James Melin
Also, make sure that if you code your dasd device entries in zipl.conf that this device address is in zipl.conf? Also probably want to do a mkinitrd and then a zipl. You probably want an fstab entry for it too. -J

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Richard Troth
Martha specifically indicated that she had CMS formatted the disk, which renders it with uniform 4k blocks, not the "strange" first cylinder laid down by CDL. I quite agree: if using CDL, then DO NOT try to use the first cyl for arbitrary data. But I would take it further and say don't use CDL

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Martha McConaghy
Thanks for showing me the error of my ways! Turns out, I had run mkinitrd earlier in the process to add ext3 to the initrd. So, had failed to run it, again, after activating the disk. Seems that doing it later on doesn't help. You really have to do it at the right time. Now my disk and boot are

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Christian Borntraeger
Am Freitag, 21. September 2007 schrieb Richard Troth: > Skip the "partitioning" game. Put the filesystem on /dev/dasdd instead of /dev/dasdd1 and mount that. (be sure all this matches /etc/fstab, of course) Rick, Never suggest that again, please. You really have to know your systems very well bef

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:56 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Skip the "partitioning" game. Put the filesystem on /dev/dasdd instead of > /dev/dasdd1 and mount that. (be sure all this matches /etc/fstab, of course) -snip- Since the IBM developer

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Calvin Fisher
Martha It sounds like you have it defined wrong in fstab. What does the entry look like. Calvin Fisher -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LIN

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Richard Troth
Skip the "partitioning" game. Put the filesystem on /dev/dasdd instead of /dev/dasdd1 and mount that. (be sure all this matches /etc/fstab, of course) But lately, SuSE likes to put more knowledge in the initial RAM disk. So you probably need to run 'mkinitrd' and then 'zipl' before rebooting.

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:45 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Martha McConaghy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > figure). Suddenly, someone needs a disk added to their Suse virtual > machine. I created the minidisk, and CMS formatted it - so far no problem. > > I went through Yast-hard

Re: Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Did you do a zipl or what ever is used in Suse to rebuild/update the boot record? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martha McConaghy Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:46 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Suse disk frustration OK, I'

Suse disk frustration

2007-09-21 Thread Martha McConaghy
OK, I'm sure I'm doing something dumb, but I've pounded my head against the wall long enough to seek some help. I haven't really touched Suse in a couple of years, so I'm pretty rusty and my notes aren't as good as they seemed to be when I wrote them (go figure). Suddenly, someone needs a disk ad