Re: ZSeries Linux Fax Server

2007-11-16 Thread Gene P. Walters
What about Fax Over IP (FoIP), do you know if Hylafax supports that? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: ZSeries Linux Fax Server If you have an e

Re: Hipersocket Guest Lan Question

2007-11-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 11/15/2007 at 05:28 EST, "Spracklen, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think part of my confusion came from reading section 4.3 of the Linux > for IBM System z9 and IBM zSeries redbook and mis-interpreting the > paragraph regarding the hipersockets not using LAN frame, instead they

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread Fargusson.Alan
If by "in house" you mean installed then no. We do have the DVD for z/VM. I don't see how having z/VM helps. The problem is getting the files from CD to z/VM (actually to the Linux installer). Believe it or not the only DVD reader we have here is the one on the HMC. All of our Intel systems

GUI development tools

2007-11-16 Thread Evans, Kevin R
I would like some feedback on development tools, let me describe the environment first Our existing CICS system uses what we call "dot delimited messages". These all arrive over point to point encrypted communications lines into what we call CORs (kinda sorta like TORs but without terminals). Th

Re: ZSeries Linux Fax Server

2007-11-16 Thread David Boyes
> What about Fax Over IP (FoIP), do you know if Hylafax supports that? Hard to say, because FoIP is such a nebulous term. There are a number of solutions for that, and it'll depend on which one you use. Hylafax is pretty flexible, and there are interfaces for some of the FoIP products on Intel, bu

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 12:13 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Fargusson.Alan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone tried to use z/OS to serve the install CDs for Linux? Yes, someone did, and reported their results here. I think they used FTP, though. Search the archives for more, b

Re: GUI development tools

2007-11-16 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Thanks to David & Mark...I'll look into these. Regards, Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:54 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: GUI development tools >>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 1

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 1:39 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Fargusson.Alan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > I will look into getting the starter system. I don't make these decisions, > so I don't know if we will be able to get it. There's no cost associated with the starter syste

Re: GUI development tools

2007-11-16 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Thanks for that. The XML stuff is mostly done already. It's the tools for operator and developer use for "controlling" the system we are now starting to look at, so these will be essentially custom utility code. Regards, Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: Online extend LVM group SLES10

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 1:54 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED] , Jerry Whitteridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > slmgsb04:~ # ext2online -v /dev/rootvg/appl-lv +7G > ext2online v1.1.18 - 2001/03/18 for EXT2FS 0.5b > new filesystem size 1835008 > using 0 reserved group descriptor blocks

Re: Online extend LVM group SLES10

2007-11-16 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Thanks Mark -- I'll try that (I think again but make sure I have the -v for more messages). See my follow up note where I actually asked questions ! Jerry Whitteridge Safeway Inc 925 951 4184 > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mar

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 12:56 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Fargusson.Alan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If by "in house" you mean installed then no. We do have the DVD for z/VM. I > don't see how having z/VM helps. Having z/VM helps if you're trying to install SLES10, due to the do

Re: GUI development tools

2007-11-16 Thread David Boyes
> Anyone have any thoughts as to good open source tools to do these types > of user interfaces running under zLinux? Eclipse, hands down. It provides both the ability to do the XML munging in a controlled way (helps prevent stupid pilot error), plus the ability to construct much more sophisticated

Re: ZSeries Linux Fax Server

2007-11-16 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Also, I don't know if they still exist, but there are/were companies that take messages from you (via IP) and fax them for you. If you are not talking about a lot of messages, that may be a good fit. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Law of Cat Stretching A cat will stretch to a distance proport

Re: GUI development tools

2007-11-16 Thread David Boyes
> Thanks for that. The XML stuff is mostly done already. It's the tools > for operator and developer use for "controlling" the system we are now > starting to look at, so these will be essentially custom utility code. Look at Eclipse's Rich Client Interface. You can do some mighty cool stuff with

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread Fargusson.Alan
I don't care how much CPU it uses. I can start it up and go do something else. I will look into getting the starter system. I don't make these decisions, so I don't know if we will be able to get it. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David B

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread David Boyes
> I don't care how much CPU it uses. I can start it up and go do something > else. Lucky you. It's *really* a pig, though, so do it at night if you can. > I will look into getting the starter system. I don't make these > decisions, so I don't know if we will be able to get it. No cost (other

Re: Online extend LVM group SLES10

2007-11-16 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Sorry guys the first part of the note didn't get sent for some reason. I'm trying to extend a mounted file system on SLES10 SP1 using ext2online and see the following messages. Could this be because these are EXT3 not ext2 ? Filesystem expansion works just fine when I go down to runlevel 1 and unm

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread Evans, Kevin R
In most government installations, you need to get approval to get "other stuff". We get it here all the time. Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 2:01 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: GUI development tools

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 1:45 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Evans, Kevin R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for that. The XML stuff is mostly done already. It's the tools > for operator and developer use for "controlling" the system we are now > starting to look at, so these will be

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread David Boyes
> If by "in house" you mean installed then no. We do have the DVD for z/VM. Do that install first. > I don't see how having z/VM helps. Once you have VM installed you can use the starter system download from Novell. It contains the entire DVD distribution of SLES 10 SP1. No files bigger than

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread David Boyes
> Has anyone tried to use z/OS to serve the install CDs for Linux? Yes. Don't do it. You won't like the CPU utilization on z/OS at all. The SMB support chews up a lot of CPU doing the SMB translation. > The problem I have is that we don't have an Intel Linux system that I can > put the install

Online extend LVM group SLES10

2007-11-16 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
slmgsb04:~ # pvcreate /dev/dasde1 Physical volume "/dev/dasde1" successfully created slmgsb04:~ # vgextend rootvg /dev/dasde1 Volume group "rootvg" successfully extended slmgsb04:~ # lvextend -L +7G /dev/rootvg/appl-lv Extending logical volume appl-lv to 7.07 GB Logical volume appl-lv succe

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread Fargusson.Alan
It isn't cost. I need to get approval for anything like this. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:45 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux install from z/OS. >>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at

Linux on System z Live Virtual Classes on Nov 27, Dec 4, Dec 11

2007-11-16 Thread C L MORSE (372-8724)
I have been asked to pass along information about three upcoming Linux on System z Live Virtual Classes that may be of interest to many of you. Target audience: Linux on System z Customers, IBM System z Technical Sales, and System z Business Partners. There is no charge to participate in these te

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 1:53 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Fargusson.Alan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It isn't cost. I need to get approval for anything like this. Hmm. Sorry to hear that. Still, if you got approval to install Linux in the first place, it's hard to see them refu

Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread Fargusson.Alan
Has anyone tried to use z/OS to serve the install CDs for Linux? I know that there isn't a CD reader on the mainframe, but it seems that it would be just as easy to copy the CDs from a PC to z/OS as it is to copy them to a disk on the PC, if you have DFS/SMB configured (which I do). The problem

IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4

2007-11-16 Thread David Booher
Hi listers, I finally got around to looking at SLES10 (SP1) for zLinux. I punched up the vmrdr.ikr, parmfile and initrd and this is what I'm getting when IPLing the zVM reader: NO FILES CHANGED Linux version 2.6.16.46-0.12-default ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.2 200701 15 (prerele

Re: Linux install from z/OS.

2007-11-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 11/16/2007 at 12:14 EST, "Fargusson.Alan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I should also note that our operations group says it is too dangerous to use > the HMC as a file server. Dangerous? In what way? IMO, the HMC has excellent security characteristics, including a built-in configurabl

Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4

2007-11-16 Thread David Booher
I bumped it to 2G -- no go! This is Novell's SP1 release just downloaded from their website Bummer for sure! dave -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:17 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Su

Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4

2007-11-16 Thread Pieter Harder
I think you need at least 768M to run the installer system. Best regards, Pieter Harder [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel +31-73-6837133 / +31-6-47272537 >>> David Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/16/07 8:17 >>> Hi listers, I finally got around to looking at SLES10 (SP1) for zLinux. I punched up the vmr

Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4

2007-11-16 Thread Adam Thornton
On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Pieter Harder wrote: I think you need at least 768M to run the installer system. I know I've done it in 512MB. I don't know about 256MB, but probably not. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signo

Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4

2007-11-16 Thread RPN01
Possibly obvious question, but did you run a checksum on your download to be sure it was complete / uncorrupted? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ -

Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4

2007-11-16 Thread Tom Duerbusch
It does work with 512M under VM with vswitch and installing from a FTP server. Up to the point of your failure, there really isn't anything for you to do (or can mess up either). The following is the exec for punching out the text decks needed to IPL from the reader: /* SLES10 IPL */

Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4

2007-11-16 Thread Pieter Harder
I think (not thoroughly tested, so not sure) it depends on the path thru the installer (network choice, install source etc) you take. I know we didn't get it done with 512M, so went to 768M and that worked. Best regards, Pieter Harder [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel +31-73-6837133 / +31-6-47272537 >

Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4

2007-11-16 Thread David Booher
Hi, My EXEC looks the same and I transferred the vmrdr & initrd as binary and the parmfile as ascii. In fact, I did it twice just to be sure I didn't mess it up. I'm now in the process or re-downloading SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD1.iso just to be sure nothing happened during that massive download. d

Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4

2007-11-16 Thread David Booher
Not such an obvious one :) The answer was NO. I'm in the process of re-downloading the .iso now. thanks for the suggestion, Dave -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:59 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU