Mark Post wrote:
On 9/22/2009 at 11:35 PM, Leland Lucius wrote:
Is it being removed entirely or will distros be providing it?
First, let's distinguish between CMM-1 and CMM-2/CMMA. It is the latter that
is being dropped by IBM. It will remain in the distribution versions in which
it curre
So you should probably measure the two before deciding on which one you
want to keep. CMM-1 has very positive results, cmma not so positive.
Leland Lucius wrote:
Mark Post wrote:
On 9/22/2009 at 11:35 PM, Leland Lucius wrote:
Is it being removed entirely or will distros be providing it?
Fir
Barton Robinson wrote:
So you should probably measure the two before deciding on which one you
want to keep. CMM-1 has very positive results, cmma not so positive.
At the risk of bringing on the wrath of the performance gods, I just
have to say that I'm not really interested in measuring whethe
Jack Woehr wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
Who should, sensibly, assume that this site speaks for any part of the
Linux community?
Well, the Linux on z/VM community. It needs a wiki. It's a good idea.
It's a shame you quoted me without context.
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John
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John Summerfield wrote:
Jack Woehr wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
Who should, sensibly, assume that this site speaks for any part of the
Linux community?
Well, the Linux on z/VM community. It needs a wiki. It's a good idea.
It's a shame you quoted me without context.
Wasn't the intent, Jo
> Is OpenSolaris on zLinux viable or is it still in early development?
Well, we think so. It's been very stable so far.
It's available, with support, etc.
Drop me a note offlist and let's see what can be done.
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For
I was wondering how you turn on each of the offerings.
I have looked in several manuals and they talk about and compare the CMM
offerings, but they were not specific on implementation.
We load the CMM module via
/etc/sysconfig/kernel
MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT="vmcp cmm"
So what is it that we have tu
> for anything new one has to go looking.
>
> In contrast, everything on this list arrives in my inbox. I see
> everything, choose what to read, respond where I feel the urge. If it
> was a wiki, I'd be battling to keep up, I'd probably just fall away.
General rant aside, I think that's the point
Wow..I don't really know how this discussion got so far off-base.
For several years now, there has been a lot of discussion in the z/VM
community about the need to have a place to collect the "wisdom of the
elders", i.e. the knowledge and experience of those of us who have been
doing this a lo
Sam,
> We load the CMM module via
> /etc/sysconfig/kernel
> MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT="vmcp cmm"
>
> So what is it that we have turned on?
Good question. You've turned on CMM1 on Linux, but as I understand it,
there must also be a *collaborative* piece enabled on z/VM.
In both the latest Virtualizat
We tried CMM-1 a month or two ago on a single guest. Without VMRM,
there's nothing for it to talk to, so it does nothing. (It works by
having VMRM send it notices to decrease working set size.)
With it enabled on one guest, on a machine slightly memory constrained,
it drove the memory utilization
This presentation might be of some interest to those looking
at the CMM-1 and CMM2/CMMA options:
http://www.linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE113/S9272lj.pdf
Enjoy.
DJ
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From: "Hall, Ken (GTS)"
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: When will CMMA be removed from the kernel?
>>> On 9/23/2009 at 1:36 AM, "Douglas M. Wooster" wrote:
-snip-
> I'm sure one could use a Wiki as a discussion
> forum, but it really seems better suited to developing, storing, and
> searching reference material.
I'm not sure how this meme got started, but nobody is advocating moving general
>>> On 9/23/2009 at 9:51 AM, David Boyes wrote:
-snip-
> I like the idea of user created documentation, but maybe there's a way to
> notify this list with a summary of updates every so often. That would
> ameliorate some of my crankyness.
The RecentChanges page has an RSS feed button on it.
All of our RHEL4 guests are pre-update-7 and unlikely to be upgraded any
time soon. I think I've seen this doc before. Thanks though.
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
dave
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:35 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MA
Mike, CMM does require a collaborative piece. Or one can tune the
system manually with CMM commands, but that gets boring. VMRM should
have been enough, but it has very poor feed back mechanisms, and has no
clue about what is happening inside Linux. It is thus severely limited,
has lots of repor
>>> On 9/23/2009 at 10:51 AM, Michael MacIsaac wrote:
-snip-
> Good question. You've turned on CMM1 on Linux, but as I understand it,
> there must also be a *collaborative* piece enabled on z/VM.
If you want to have the size of the "balloon" dynamically changed with insight
from the z/VM perspe
Barton,
I wrote,
> ... could you point to some numbers ...
You replied, but I don't see a reference to any numbers.
You wrote in a reply:
> VMRM should have been enough, but it has very poor feed back
> mechanisms, and has no clue about what is happening inside Linux.
And:
> With that in mind, wi
I'm curious that Barton wrote on August 28th:
> VMRM has taken so much storage away from servers that the
> server or application dies. I would HIGHLY recommend against using it.
z/VM has recently documented how to keep VMRM from eating up too much
memory, though the mechansim to do so has bee
Xenia, wouldn't it be better if VMRM didn't have to depend on users
remembering to do this as their workload changes? If they have one large
server say with a large oracle application, the minimum value setting
would have to be the minimum for this server? So all servers are treated
and trimmed eq
Hello,
I'm trying to install SLES 11 on our z/VM 5.3 system. When I get to the
DASD Disk Management page to activate/format the disks, the system fails
to bring them active.
When I SSH in they aren't online and I have the messages in the log:
dasd: 0.0.0201: default ERP in fastpath (4 retries
> Xenia, wouldn't it be better if VMRM didn't have ...
> ...
> Our approach is to look in side (sic) the server ...
Moderator - order in the court please! Again, we're all trying to do what
is best for the z/VM/Linux customer.
Let's try to understand the difference between how VMRM and *this oth
>>> On 9/23/2009 at 1:38 PM, "Guyer, Jim" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to install SLES 11 on our z/VM 5.3 system. When I get to the
> DASD Disk Management page to activate/format the disks, the system fails
> to bring them active.
Was CPFMTXA run against them to initialize them?
Mark Po
Yes. And I tried both formatting at the mini disk level and not
formatting the mini disks.
Possible I made a mistake with CPFMTXA?
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