oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
I have a request for a linux server that will be hosting an oracle data base. The requestor has requested 8G of main memory and 8G of swap (Our normal server usually has 1.5G of swap - .5 on dasd and 1G on vdisk). Does anyone have any thoughts about giving this person 8G of swap ? I've been

Bye-bye IBM

2013-12-30 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Hello colleagues, It is with some sadness and some anticipation that I will be leaving IBM and joining Innovation Data Processing this week. Working in a small company will probably be a better fit. As well as my 27 years, this will end nearly 55 consecutive, overlapping years of service to IBM

Re: Bye-bye IBM

2013-12-30 Thread Dave Jones
Hi Mike.  Sounds like you're starting 2014 with a bang.best of luck with the new position! Drop the list a note when you get settled in with your new contact info. See you at the VM workshop.  Have a good one, too.  DJ Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Scott Rohling
I would stick with the smaller swap ... as you say, if the server is swapping a lot, it's better to give it more main memory and let z/VM manage memory paging then let Linux continue swapping. I always prefer to give less (memory and swap) initially and add more if actual behavior warrants it.

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Sam Amsavelu
You are correct. For successful Oracle implementations it is necessary to estimate the memory requirements, by considering SGA, PGA, number of dedicated connections, Linux page table requirements, ASM, RAC etc., The total of swap space and the guest memory relates to how much virtual memory is

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
I have a request for a linux server that will be hosting an oracle data base. The requestor has requested 8G of main memory and 8G of swap (Our normal server usually has 1.5G of swap - .5 on dasd and 1G on vdisk). Does anyone have any thoughts about giving this person 8G of swap ? First

Re: Bye-bye IBM

2013-12-30 Thread Chu, Raymond C.
Good luck and that is a big loss to IBM -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 7:48 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Bye-bye IBM Hello colleagues, It is with some sadness and some

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
Thanks for all your answers. I guess I'll give him another vdisk of 4G and if he needs more, I can swapgen another vdisk. One more question about swap: Is one 8G swap device better than 4 2G swap devices ? It's a lot easier adding another swap device than having to increase an existing swap.

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Kurt Acker
In addition to the spot on info already supplied, this Redbook should be helpful as well: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248104.html?Open Thanks, Best Regards and Happy Holidays, Kurt Acker IBM Smarter Planet, Smarter Data Centers Virtualization and Enterprise System Management

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
Thanks for the info. Interesting guide -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Kurt Acker Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 9:50 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: oracle question In addition to the spot on info already supplied,

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
Thanks for all your answers. I guess I'll give him another vdisk of 4G and if he needs more, I can swapgen another vdisk. Yeah, small incremental increases usually are good thing. Is one 8G swap device better than 4 2G swap devices ? It's a lot easier adding another swap device than

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
thanks for the response -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 10:12 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: oracle question Thanks for all your answers. I guess I'll give him another

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
One more thing: check to see if your VM LPAR has some XSTOR defined. VM paging implements a main store- XSTOR- real disk data migration path that helps a lot with high paging levels and VDISK. Your VM performance monitor will tell you lots of interesting stuff wrt paging performance.

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Scott Rohling
Only for z/VM 6.2 and previous..with 6.3, XSTOR is no longer recommended, and in fact will be the last release to support it. Scott Rohling On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:38 AM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: One more thing: check to see if your VM LPAR has some XSTOR defined. VM

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Gentry, Steve
Regarding XSTOR and VM 6.3. Is it true XSTOR will be going away in VM 6.3 and/or after 6.3? Steve -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 10:39 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re:

XSTOR Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Kurt Acker
This link offers the most official response with some reasoning to the XSTOR question that I have read/been informed of to date: http://www.vm.ibm.com/perf/reports/zvm/html/630con.html Hopefully that info is helpful, Kurt Acker IBM Smarter Planet, Smarter Data Centers Virtualization and

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
One last question on swap. If I have to set up a 4G swap space, how do I do it ? I tried using swapgen to define a 2G (4194304 blks) space and it says vdisk space not available I looked online and found someone saying that the maximum on a single swap is 4194296. -Original Message-

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Scott Rohling
Q VDISK USERLIM .. and Q VDISK SYSLIM to see any system maximums set (sounds like one or both are).Use CP SET VDISK USERLIM INFINITE if you don't want maximums set .. (or use a value you are comfortable with). Same with SYSLIM... Do a HELP CPSET VDISK to read up on the values, etc...

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Sam Amsavelu
My suggestion would be if you are considering 4 GB of swap space, follow a layered approach. Define two virtual disks, one for 256 MB and the next one to be for 512 MB and a third lower priority swap disk (physical disk) for the remaining required size. 4GB of swap as virtual disk alone is

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
Thanks - I ended up having 4 swap disks (1 500M dasd, one 1G vdisk and 2 2G vdisks - total of 5.5G). I just hope that it's enough. Time will tell. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Sam Amsavelu Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:01

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
Only for z/VM 6.2 and previous..with 6.3, XSTOR is no longer recommended, and in fact will be the last release to support it. Good point. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
See the help file for v1310 of SWAPGEN... 8-) If you haven't already done so, make sure the VDISK system and per-user limits are set to Infinite in SYSTEM CONFIG and that you have enough VM page space to back the demand. I tried using swapgen to define a 2G (4194304 blks) space and it says

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
Thanks - I ended up having 4 swap disks (1 500M dasd, one 1G vdisk and 2 2G vdisks - total of 5.5G). I just hope that it's enough. Time will tell. Just make sure that the real DASD one is used last by making sure the VDISK ones are prioritied.

Re: Bye-bye IBM

2013-12-30 Thread David Kreuter
Best of luck and congratulations  Mike!  David Kreuter Original message From: Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com Date:12/30/2013 09:02 (GMT-05:00) To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Bye-bye IBM Hi Mike.  Sounds like you're starting 2014 with a bang.best of luck