Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-07-10 Thread John Summerfield
gone back to the old way using /mnt and /etc/fstab -- R; Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Linux on 390 Port 06/27/2007 03:52 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port From Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: BaseVol/GuestVol serv

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-07-10 Thread Richard Troth
loppy" and "cdrom". -- R; Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Linux on 390 Port 06/27/2007 03:52 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port From Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9 &

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-07-10 Thread Richard Troth
Vol/GuestVol server for SLES9 (Sorry this is so late; we wanted to make sure we had something solid before I responded.) Michael MacIsaac wrote: > What are other people using for the layout of their master/golden image? > > Right now, we're testing out the basevol/guestvol setup

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-07-10 Thread Matt Gourley
(Sorry this is so late; we wanted to make sure we had something solid before I responded.) Michael MacIsaac wrote: What are other people using for the layout of their master/golden image? Right now, we're testing out the basevol/guestvol setup at http://www.linuxvm.org/Info/HOWTOs/basevol9.h

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-27 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 4:06 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Fargusson.Alan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So does the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard carry an weight? It says that > /media is the place for automatically mounted devices like floppy and cdrom. Clearly it does, or distribu

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-27 Thread Fargusson.Alan
, June 27, 2007 12:53 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9 >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 3:33 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > Hum, I guess. Except that /mnt has been around

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-27 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 3:33 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > Hum, I guess. Except that /mnt has been around vaguely forever and > perhaps the architect was concerned with name collisions of some sort. > /mnt/media might be a bit better th

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-27 Thread Fargusson.Alan
Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:34 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9 > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-27 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mark Post > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:06 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9 > > > >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 20

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-27 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 2:59 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > Why do you say that /media is worthless? Perhaps it is on System z, but > it is very nice on Intel where it automounts my USB stick when I plug it > in. Any reason why it could

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-27 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mark Post > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 3:46 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9 > I don't think you can blame SUSE for that.

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-27 Thread Kim Goldenberg
Mark Post wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 4:30 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stricklin, Raymond J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Probably. Generally accepted practice in the Unix world separates /, /usr, /var, /opt, /home, and /srv (if used) into distinct filesystems. I'm going to h

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-27 Thread Kim Goldenberg
Stricklin, Raymond J wrote: Probably. Generally accepted practice in the Unix world separates /, /usr, /var, /opt, /home, and /srv (if used) into distinct filesystems. I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Making separate filesystems without understanding the _reasons_ for making thi

BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-26 Thread Susan Zimmerman
;m certain I'll fall into holes along the way, may end up learning alot after all. Thanks very much to all for your insights. susan -- Date:Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:52:09 -0400 From:"Edmund R. MacKenty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: BaseVo

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-25 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
On Friday 22 June 2007 16:30, Stricklin, Raymond J replied to : David Boyes: >> Probably. Generally accepted practice in the Unix world >> separates /, /usr, /var, /opt, /home, and /srv (if used) into >> distinct filesystems. > >I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. > >Making separate filesys

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-23 Thread David Boyes
> > Probably. Generally accepted practice in the Unix world > > separates /, /usr, /var, /opt, /home, and /srv (if used) into > > distinct filesystems. > > I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. > Making separate filesystems without understanding the _reasons_ for > making things separate fil

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-22 Thread Ted Ware
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Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-22 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jun 22, 2007, at 3:30 PM, Stricklin, Raymond J wrote: I have never, ever, EVER seen /etc split out, or at least not as anything other than a joke. Off the top of my head I can think of at least four different varieties of UNIX which won't even boot if you do that. Don't do it, it's completely

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 4:30 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stricklin, Raymond J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Probably. Generally accepted practice in the Unix world >> separates /, /usr, /var, /opt, /home, and /srv (if used) into >> distinct filesystems. > > I'm going to have to

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-22 Thread Stricklin, Raymond J
> Probably. Generally accepted practice in the Unix world > separates /, /usr, /var, /opt, /home, and /srv (if used) into > distinct filesystems. I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Making separate filesystems without understanding the _reasons_ for making things separate filesystems

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 8:26 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Susan Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > Please bear with me (this is still very new to me), but do you put > your file systems on their own minidisks and then group them together as > one logical volume? Since the f

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-22 Thread David Boyes
> Some shops have used it and are using it, I believe. Some have backed away > from it. Are people still using basevol/guestvol? It's still valuable, but it's more a hack until we can provide something more sophisticated like unionfs support. Much of what basevol/guestvol does could be done better

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-21 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Susan, > I'd like to save disk storage as well as simplify maintenance so thought > the concept of a basevol/guestvol penguin colony sounded perfect. Some shops have used it and are using it, I believe. Some have backed away from it. Are people still using basevol/guestvol? > I'm a relative newb

BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-21 Thread Susan Zimmerman
cheme)? Is there a way to easily determine the amount to allocate to each file system? thanks again... Susan -- Date:Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:19:36 -0600 From:Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9 >>> On Wed, Jun

Re: BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-20 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 4:50 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Susan Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > The only way I've built a Linux system is outlined in the Redbook " z/VM > and Linux on zSeries: From LPAR to Virtual Servers in Two Days". > Everything gets installed in / (ro

BaseVol/GuestVol server for SLES9

2007-06-20 Thread Susan Zimmerman
Hi Listers. I'd like to save disk storage as well as simplify maintenance so thought the concept of a basevol/guestvol penguin colony sounded perfect. I'm a relative newbie, so what might be obvious to most administrators is lost on me. I am referencing both the Redbook "Large Scale Linux Deplo