Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Jose Raul Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is it that there's the same problem everywhere ? > Life would be much easier and problems could be solved faster and better > with just some more DASD but it seems like the management guys must create > the dasd

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-15 Thread Jose Raul Baron
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Higgins, Neil S Enviado el: jueves, 14 de febrero de 2008 18:50 Para: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Asunto: Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM. Your concerns are VERY valid about DRA recovery. Maybe another angle would be to advise management about NOT being

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-15 Thread Jose Raul Baron
: jueves, 14 de febrero de 2008 17:28 Para: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Asunto: Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM. We don't have any mod 9 available in the z/VM pool, all were re-allocated to the z/OS Adabas databases. We are trying to get more dasd, but approval is very slow and pai

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-14 Thread Higgins, Neil S
consequences being unable to recover would be. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis La Torre Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:28 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM. We don't have an

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-14 Thread Stephen Frazier
What kind of dasd do you have? As you said you have snapshot, you probably have some type of raid box that emulates 3390 dasd. If you do then just change some mod 3 to mod 9. Their is no cost in making that change. Just be sure that you have enough backing storage for the new disks. Luis La To

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-14 Thread Luis La Torre
We don't have any mod 9 available in the z/VM pool, all were re-allocated to the z/OS Adabas databases. We are trying to get more dasd, but approval is very slow and painful and management does not want to spend any money at all. I just want to thank everyone for their response, You people prov

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-14 Thread John Summerfield
Edmund R. MacKenty wrote: On Wednesday 13 February 2008 11:28, Luis La Torre wrote: Why?. because we have the z/VM and all Linux guests on 3390-3 volumes. And for some reason our previous administrator defined the LVM on a 3390-9, maybe he ran out of 3390-3. Aha! So your 3390-9's contain a s

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-13 Thread Stephen Frazier
Would it not be much less trouble to change the backup volumes to 3390-9? Luis La Torre wrote: Why?. because we have the z/VM and all Linux guests on 3390-3 volumes. And for some reason our previous administrator defined the LVM on a 3390-9, maybe he ran out of 3390-3. Anyway our current backu

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-13 Thread RPN01
You could also format the new mod 3's, go ahead and add them to the volume groups you want them to end up in, and then pvmove the old extents to the new ones. Once the data is migrated, use pvremove to take the old physical volumes out of the volume group. You needn't even bring down the applicatio

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-13 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 11:28, Luis La Torre wrote: >Why?. because we have the z/VM and all Linux guests on 3390-3 volumes. And >for some reason our previous administrator defined the LVM on a 3390-9, >maybe he ran out of 3390-3. Aha! So your 3390-9's contain a set of LVM physical volumes

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-13 Thread Luis La Torre
Why?. because we have the z/VM and all Linux guests on 3390-3 volumes. And for some reason our previous administrator defined the LVM on a 3390-9, maybe he ran out of 3390-3. Anyway our current backup job using FLASHCOPY does not include mixing device volumes. We do volume dumps using flashcopy a

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 02/12/2008 at 05:38 EST, "Huegel, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I asume by 3 partitions you mean each mod-9 represents 3 mod-3's.. DDR > should work just fine. No, not really. Remember that partitions 2 and 3 need an extra cylinder to allow for a label. HOWEVER, since we're on

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 5:06 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Luis La Torre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am looking for any information or ideas on how to copy 7 3390-9 volumes > splitted into 3 partitions per volume into probably 21 3390-3 volumes. Or > maybe copy them to tape. First

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 5:37 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Huegel, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I asume by 3 partitions you mean each mod-9 represents 3 mod-3's.. DDR > should work just fine. Ah, not really. The partition table is only in one place on the volume, as is the f

Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-12 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I asume by 3 partitions you mean each mod-9 represents 3 mod-3's.. DDR should work just fine. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luis La Torre Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Copying 3390-9 to 3

Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.

2008-02-12 Thread Luis La Torre
Am looking for any information or ideas on how to copy 7 3390-9 volumes splitted into 3 partitions per volume into probably 21 3390-3 volumes. Or maybe copy them to tape. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Luis La Torre BAX Global Inc. Irvine, CA 92602 ---