Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-09 Thread Colin Walls
-Original Message- From: Rick Troth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Is it as user friendly? No. UNIX is user friendly - it is just very particular who its friends are. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Barclays Group does not accept legal responsibility for

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-09 Thread Bruce Fry
Thanks. -Original Message- From: Alan Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 17:45, Post, Mark K wrote: Bruce, That's a big question. Certainly you're unlikely to find

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-09 Thread Bruce Fry
Didn't know that, thanks. -Original Message- From: Jim Elliott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question Bruce, That's a big question. Certainly you're unlikely to find VisualBasic on Linux or Linux

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-09 Thread Bruce Fry
The comparison is impressive. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Martin Stricker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question Bruce Fry wrote: We're researching the opportunity of server consolidation

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-09 Thread Bruce Fry
Important data and articles, thanks! -Original Message- From: Dwight Tuinstra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question Bruce --- Look over recent copies of the C/C++ Users Journal (ISSN 1075-2838

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-09 Thread Scott Courtney
On Monday 09 September 2002 06:23 am, Colin Walls wrote: Is it as user friendly? No. UNIX is user friendly - it is just very particular who its friends are. Let's understand that ease of use and efficiency of use are orthogonal concepts. In a GUI, it is very easy to navigate through

Re: User Friendly, was: General LINUX Question

2002-09-09 Thread Post, Mark K
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question -Original Message- From: Rick Troth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Is it as user friendly? No. UNIX is user friendly - it is just very particular who its friends are.

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread H. Szumovski
I want to argue against that with a sample: The Austrian oil company OMV runs several very big SAP R3 applications (approved by SAP) for several 1000 users under Linux on the mainframe. Why ? A lot less cost and less administration overhead than running the software on other servers, and FAR

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Anyone, We're researching the opportunity of server consolidation through the investment of LINUX images on our mainframe. Is anyone aware of compiler limitations concerning programming languages, or anything at all between Microsoft or Unix environments to LINUX? Several members of our

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Post, Mark K
not a guarantee, but the chances are better than if everyone was losing money. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Alan Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question -snip- As to whether S/390 is an IBM cash

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Bruce Fry
Thanks! It does. -Original Message- From: Rick Troth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question We're researching the opportunity of server consolidation through the investment of LINUX images on our

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Bruce Fry
Thanks for the info, it helps! -Original Message- From: Thomas David Rivers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question Anyone, We're researching the opportunity of server consolidation through

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Post, Mark K
, September 06, 2002 2:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question I need examples like this, thanks! -Original Message- From: H. Szumovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question I

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Bruce Fry
I need examples like this, thanks! -Original Message- From: H. Szumovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question I want to argue against that with a sample: The Austrian oil company OMV runs several

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Bruce Fry
Thanks, this all helps! -Original Message- From: Alan Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 16:59, Bruce Fry wrote: We're researching the opportunity of server

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Bruce Fry
Thanks! -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question Bruce, That's a big question. Certainly you're unlikely to find VisualBasic on Linux or Linux/390. Microsoft

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread McKown, John
: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question I don't think there's any debate about Linux and Linux/390 being a cash cow for IBM. It is, hands down, which is a good thing for IBM, and hopefully as a result, the Linux community. The more

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Post, Mark K
That's what _I_ call making money from Linux. They wouldn't have had that revenue if it weren't for Linux. Mark Post -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General LINUX Question

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Scott Courtney
On Friday 06 September 2002 11:59 am, Bruce Fry wrote: We're researching the opportunity of server consolidation through the investment of LINUX images on our mainframe. Is anyone aware of compiler limitations concerning programming languages, or anything at all between Microsoft or Unix

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 17:45, Post, Mark K wrote: Bruce, That's a big question. Certainly you're unlikely to find VisualBasic on Linux or Linux/390. Microsoft has been understandably reluctant to make Historically the Unix world has used perl/python for the job that visual basic gets used

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 21:13, Scott Courtney wrote: Linux started as a reverse-engineered UNIX-like operating system, and although today it has many new features that aren't common to all *NIX systems, there is still enormous commonality. Linux was not reverse engineered from Unix.

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Dwight Tuinstra
Bruce --- Look over recent copies of the C/C++ Users Journal (ISSN 1075-2838, http://www.cuj.com) or Dr. Dobb's Journal (ISSN 1044-789X, http://www.ddj.com), checking the adverts and product announcements (and even articles). You'll see plenty of commercial stuff for Linux. You can also

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Jim Elliott
Bruce, That's a big question. Certainly you're unlikely to find VisualBasic on Linux or Linux/390. However, Stryon ( http://www.stryon.com ) has a VisualBasic to Java conversion product! Regards, Jim

Re: General LINUX Question

2002-09-06 Thread Martin Stricker
Bruce Fry wrote: We're researching the opportunity of server consolidation through the investment of LINUX images on our mainframe. Is anyone aware of compiler limitations concerning programming languages, or anything at all between Microsoft or Unix environments to LINUX? Several members

Re: General Linux Question

2002-04-16 Thread Alan Cox
there's a lot of folk who say it doesn't work well that's the reason the kernel's shipped without the support being built. Writing is said to be especially hazardous to the data. Reading seems pretty solid now days although I doubt it works at all on XP. Generally its best to exchange data

General Linux Question

2002-04-15 Thread Rengasamy, Samy
How to access NTFS from Linux? Is there an easy way to access NTFS File system from SuSe Linux in a dual boot PC? Do I have to recompile the kernel to do this? Thanks, Samy Rengasamy.

Re: General Linux Question

2002-04-15 Thread Chris Little
be docs for it in your linux source directory. chris (this was also written by a five y/o child!) : From: Rengasamy, Samy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/04/15 Mon PM 06:15:25 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: General Linux Question How to access NTFS from Linux? Is there an easy way

Re: General Linux Question

2002-04-15 Thread Post, Mark K
Now, now. That excuse worked once/twice before. We're not going to let you get away with it forever! :) Mark Post -Original Message- From: Chris Little [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 6:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General Linux Question -snip

Re: General Linux Question

2002-04-15 Thread Post, Mark K
not caused any problems, as Chris indicates. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Chris Little [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 6:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General Linux Question There is an NTFS module available. If I'm not mistaken, read works pretty well